Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Living DNA - A new DNA company
So now it looks like Living DNA did away with the indemnify clause and now it's more of a use at your own risk. Roberta Estes wrote about the update today: https://goo.gl/RTzvke Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Good to know. Thanks! > On Jun 15, 2017 7:16 AM, "'Lisa' via Azores Genealogy" < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> I purchased one of their kits (for myself) at Jamboree. I read the >> article yesterday and it does raise concerns. However, I only want to test >> with them for clues on my U.K. origins which go back to 1700's. I don't >> plan to download data (I can do that from FTDNA). My takeaway from the >> article was to beware of downloading/sharing information from them and the >> origins data is evolving (exactly what they said at Jamboree) and to be >> used as clues. To be fair to them, they said repeatedly that their German >> data is weak at this time and they are working on improving that >> (Portuguese too, when I asked). >> Lisa T >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jun 15, 2017, at 6:46 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> I wouldn't want to pay for the court costs of a company. I'm sure Judy >> Russell, The Legal Genealogist, will say more when she gets back from her >> genealogy speeches in New Zealand or Australia. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 4:43 AM, Margaret Vicente < >> margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Cheri, >>> >>> I disagree with the tone of this article. Living DNA is providing its >>> users with a deterrent because I find most of us are oblivious of future >>> consequences and merrily go about sharing our DNA key foolishly. >>> >>> The question it raises for me is this. Would I give any stranger the >>> key to my door? We all know the answer to that, then why such carelessness >>> with one's DNA? Yes it is fun, but what monster are we creating for our >>> future generations by being so inconsequent today? >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> Margaret Vicente >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < >>> rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> *I think I would avoid this company like the plague.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *Rick* >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com >>> ] *On Behalf Of *Cheri Mello >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:22 PM >>> *To:* Azores Genealogy; madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com; >>> islandrou...@googlegroups.com >>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Living DNA - A new DNA company >>> >>> >>> >>> Roberta Estes wrote about Living DNA today (based out of England, I >>> believe). I have one word for it: Yikes! You can read about the terms and >>> legal stuff you could get yourself into here: https://goo.gl/OUfjMX >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
Very interesting article. Thanks for the link. Sam (Camas, WA) From: E Sharp Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:33 PM To: azores Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Here is a great site that explains it all. https://www.archives.gov/files/publications/prologue/2014/spring/citizenship.pdf "E" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Living DNA - A new DNA company
Good to know. Thanks! On Jun 15, 2017 7:16 AM, "'Lisa' via Azores Genealogy" < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I purchased one of their kits (for myself) at Jamboree. I read the > article yesterday and it does raise concerns. However, I only want to test > with them for clues on my U.K. origins which go back to 1700's. I don't > plan to download data (I can do that from FTDNA). My takeaway from the > article was to beware of downloading/sharing information from them and the > origins data is evolving (exactly what they said at Jamboree) and to be > used as clues. To be fair to them, they said repeatedly that their German > data is weak at this time and they are working on improving that > (Portuguese too, when I asked). > Lisa T > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 15, 2017, at 6:46 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > I wouldn't want to pay for the court costs of a company. I'm sure Judy > Russell, The Legal Genealogist, will say more when she gets back from her > genealogy speeches in New Zealand or Australia. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 4:43 AM, Margaret Vicente < > margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Cheri, >> >> I disagree with the tone of this article. Living DNA is providing its >> users with a deterrent because I find most of us are oblivious of future >> consequences and merrily go about sharing our DNA key foolishly. >> >> The question it raises for me is this. Would I give any stranger the key >> to my door? We all know the answer to that, then why such carelessness with >> one's DNA? Yes it is fun, but what monster are we creating for our future >> generations by being so inconsequent today? >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Margaret Vicente >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < >> rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> *I think I would avoid this company like the plague.* >> >> >> >> *Rick* >> >> >> >> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com >> ] *On Behalf Of *Cheri Mello >> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:22 PM >> *To:* Azores Genealogy; madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com; >> islandrou...@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Living DNA - A new DNA company >> >> >> >> Roberta Estes wrote about Living DNA today (based out of England, I >> believe). I have one word for it: Yikes! You can read about the terms and >> legal stuff you could get yourself into here: https://goo.gl/OUfjMX >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Living DNA - A new DNA company
I purchased one of their kits (for myself) at Jamboree. I read the article yesterday and it does raise concerns. However, I only want to test with them for clues on my U.K. origins which go back to 1700's. I don't plan to download data (I can do that from FTDNA). My takeaway from the article was to beware of downloading/sharing information from them and the origins data is evolving (exactly what they said at Jamboree) and to be used as clues. To be fair to them, they said repeatedly that their German data is weak at this time and they are working on improving that (Portuguese too, when I asked). Lisa T Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 15, 2017, at 6:46 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > I wouldn't want to pay for the court costs of a company. I'm sure Judy > Russell, The Legal Genealogist, will say more when she gets back from her > genealogy speeches in New Zealand or Australia. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > >> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 4:43 AM, Margaret Vicente >> wrote: >> Cheri, >> >> I disagree with the tone of this article. Living DNA is providing its users >> with a deterrent because I find most of us are oblivious of future >> consequences and merrily go about sharing our DNA key foolishly. >> >> The question it raises for me is this. Would I give any stranger the key to >> my door? We all know the answer to that, then why such carelessness with >> one's DNA? Yes it is fun, but what monster are we creating for our future >> generations by being so inconsequent today? >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Margaret Vicente >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel >>> wrote: >>> >>> I think I would avoid this company like the plague. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> >>> From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of >>> Cheri Mello >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:22 PM >>> To: Azores Genealogy; madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com; >>> islandrou...@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Living DNA - A new DNA company >>> >>> >>> >>> Roberta Estes wrote about Living DNA today (based out of England, I >>> believe). I have one word for it: Yikes! You can read about the terms and >>> legal stuff you could get yourself into here: https://goo.gl/OUfjMX >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Living DNA - A new DNA company
I wouldn't want to pay for the court costs of a company. I'm sure Judy Russell, The Legal Genealogist, will say more when she gets back from her genealogy speeches in New Zealand or Australia. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 4:43 AM, Margaret Vicente wrote: > Cheri, > > I disagree with the tone of this article. Living DNA is providing its > users with a deterrent because I find most of us are oblivious of future > consequences and merrily go about sharing our DNA key foolishly. > > The question it raises for me is this. Would I give any stranger the key > to my door? We all know the answer to that, then why such carelessness with > one's DNA? Yes it is fun, but what monster are we creating for our future > generations by being so inconsequent today? > > Best wishes, > > Margaret Vicente > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < > rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote: > > *I think I would avoid this company like the plague.* > > > > *Rick* > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com > ] *On Behalf Of *Cheri Mello > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:22 PM > *To:* Azores Genealogy; madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com; > islandrou...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Living DNA - A new DNA company > > > > Roberta Estes wrote about Living DNA today (based out of England, I > believe). I have one word for it: Yikes! You can read about the terms and > legal stuff you could get yourself into here: https://goo.gl/OUfjMX > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Vieira from Pico
Repost for "Google User" dea.jo.scribe at gmail.com My family is Vieira and they are from Pico My great great Grandfathers name was Frank and he had ten children. I know there was a Rosa and a Manuel somewhere in there. Where did the family end up? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
Sorry I didn't answer yesterday Liz Didn't get to my email! Yes, that's exactly what I meant! Thank you E for the great article which explains this so well! Susan Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > > Wait, who got around to it in the 60's > Do you mean that your mother was born here > Married gfather in 1916. Then he got his citizenship but she did not > automatically become citizen again??? > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:53 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy >> wrote: >> >> The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" (she >> told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in the 20's >> but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I think she >> finally got around to it in the 1960s. >> >> Susan >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: >>> >>> Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that >>> my gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so >>> mad if anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his >>> citizenship. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If the husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman (being a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship too (before 1920 and women's rights). 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's name in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the censuses and see if she was a citizen. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros > wrote: > When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores > from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or > their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record > from 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her > handwriting but has her family name not her husband's surname. > I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. > George > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Living DNA - A new DNA company
Cheri, I disagree with the tone of this article. Living DNA is providing its users with a deterrent because I find most of us are oblivious of future consequences and merrily go about sharing our DNA key foolishly. The question it raises for me is this. Would I give any stranger the key to my door? We all know the answer to that, then why such carelessness with one's DNA? Yes it is fun, but what monster are we creating for our future generations by being so inconsequent today? Best wishes, Margaret Vicente Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel > wrote: > > I think I would avoid this company like the plague. > > Rick > > From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Cheri Mello > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:22 PM > To: Azores Genealogy; madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com; > islandrou...@googlegroups.com > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Living DNA - A new DNA company > > Roberta Estes wrote about Living DNA today (based out of England, I believe). > I have one word for it: Yikes! You can read about the terms and legal stuff > you could get yourself into here: https://goo.gl/OUfjMX > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.