Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Military Records online

[Kathy Cardoza]

Mel

That’s awesome! I hope you hear back from them and find out more about this. Do 
keep us informed.

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> On Sep 10, 2017, at 9:47 PM, IslandRoutes  wrote:
> 
> Kathy, 
> Thanks for the email address!  I've sent an email.  I will report back if I 
> get a response.  This would be very exciting to my research if my gr gr 
> grandfather had been living elsewhere.  
> 
> Mel
> 
> On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 1:17:12 PM UTC-7, Kathy Cardoza wrote:
> What an interesting find! I wish I knew the answer to your question, but I 
> only know what I see on the page ….. location. I suppose the best way to find 
> out is to contact the archives. I found this email address…… hopefully, you 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Military Records online

[IslandRoutes]

Kathy, 
Thanks for the email address!  I've sent an email.  I will report back if I 
get a response.  This would be very exciting to my research if my gr gr 
grandfather had been living elsewhere.  

Mel

On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 1:17:12 PM UTC-7, Kathy Cardoza wrote:
>
> What an interesting find! I wish I knew the answer to your question, but I 
> only know what I see on the page ….. location. I suppose the best way to 
> find out is to contact the archives. I found this email address…… 
> hopefully, you will get an answer from them: 
>
> Kathy
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I.D.E.S. Fraternal Organization

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

Celeste, Thank you so much for the information!
Wonderful that you have such a database. I believe a while back you mentioned 
you had some SPRSI death records too?  I do have a suggestion (per your 
question).  If you really are looking for a place to house it,  Kathy Cardoza 
may be interested in hosting it on her Azores Genweb website.  
JEREMY  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I.D.E.S. Fraternal Organization

['celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy]

The information I have about the files for the I.D.E.S. and the U.P.P.E.C. is 
not current.  Here is what I found during the time I was putting the U.P.P.E.C. 
deceased members into a database.

I had a connection to the U.P.P.E.C. before they merged with the other 
organizations that became P.F.S.A.  At that time I asked the former Supreme 
Secretary for the U.P.P.E.C. if I could have that years death records to add to 
the information I had already put into the database.  I was told I would have 
to talk with the P.F.S.A. president.  I did this and was told he would look 
into it.  

Long story short, I was denied the files.  So.I gave the U.P.P.E.C. a copy 
of the file that I had put together.  They have not used the information when 
someone has called them for information about a deceased relative they just 
give the person my email address.  

At the time I was putting together the information from U.P.P.E.C., I went to 
the I.D.E.S. office (then in Hayward, CA).  I knew one of the workers there; 
however, she told me that they had so many records and there was no easy way to 
find the files.  I was told they were in their basement and there was no order 
to them.So.again, I was not given the opportunity to put the 
information into a database that could have been used to locate information 
about the deceased member.

I tried one more time to contact P.F.S.A. and was told it would be a violation 
of confidentiality if they gave me the files I had not already copied.  

Although the U.P.P.E.C. was founded in 1901, I was told the copies of the first 
members were burned in a fire at the home of the Supreme President where they 
were kept.  The few early dates I found were in a book written by Joanne Vaz 
about the society.  Because the "original" Supreme Officers' information was 
still available, some death dates were listed.

I know this does not sound helpful for you to find information using the 
information that P.F.S.A. now has because they feel giving out the information 
would be a breach of confidentiality.  Really this attitude does not help any 
of us doing research on our ancestors!

As I age, I am looking for someplace to leave the database I put together about 
the U.P.P.E.C. members that died before 2010.  If anyone has any idea where the 
index can be "stored" to be used by family members to learn about things like 
the birthplace of their ancestors, I am interested in hearing it.
Celeste 
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On Sat, 9/9/17, 'Jeremy G. B-C: Researching Sao Jorge' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] I.D.E.S. Fraternal Organization
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Saturday, September 9, 2017, 11:06 PM
 
 Hello,
 I just found out that my grandfather was a member
 of the Irmandade do Divono Espirito
 Santo (I.D.E.S.), does anyone know the whereabouts of their
 records (if they exist)?
 Thanks!
 JEREMY
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I.D.E.S. Fraternal Organization

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Thanks, David, I thought that probably was the case. I just wish we could
get them digitized and made available to all as the UPEC records are
available!

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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Kawika322  wrote:

> After going to and talking with a few people at the UPEC (now PFSA) a few
> years ago,the IDES books/records are apparently in storage or basement
> (off-site) I believe, and last time I checked, they have not been sorted,
> organized or gone through.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Difficult abbreviation

['Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy]

Thanks JR.

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 10, 2017, at 10:03 AM, 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy 
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> Hi everyone, I'm attaching a file with a marriage record from São Matheus de 
> Calhetas (island of Terceira). The marriage starts at the bottom of the left 
> side and continues onto the top right. The groom is Manuel ? Serodio and so 
> is his dad. I was hoping to get the abbreviated part though because I am 
> having a hard time going further.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Corrections to Sao Jorge marriage index

[Marilyn Thompson]

Thanks I thought there had to be a way to do that. It is done

Marilyn T

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:

> Marilyn
>
> This is posted on the Sao Jorge Marriage Index page:
>
> To report an improperly transcribed entry please feel free to fill out the
>  *Report a Correction to The Sao Jorge Index*
> form
> as many times as you like (one time for each entry in question).
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> That should do it for you.  :)
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> On Sep 10, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Marilyn Thompson  wrote:
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> Does anyone know who corrections should go to for the Sao Jorge marriage
> index?
>
> Index names the bride as *Roza* dos Anjos and it should be *Clara* dos
> Anjos
>
>
> Manuel Goncalves Fagundes  Clara dos Anjos   11 May 1782  911764-1803
>Ribeira Seca
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> Thank you for this great finding tool
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Another marriage Sao Jorge

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

It's just like Rosemarie said, and we entered (Damaged), ???, or (Not Given) 
depending on why information in certain fields could not be deduced.
I can however tell you that one of these is likely the marriage of Manuel 
Pereira Fagundes and a Cecelia Pereira. She was of Sao Sebastiao Terceira. If I 
remember correctly they had a daughter Barbara in 1740.  
It's confusing because there was also a Manuel Pereira Reis married to a 
Cecelia Pereira at the same time in Calheta, and Rosemarie Capodicci and I are 
descended from that couple.
JEREMY 


  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Corrections to Sao Jorge marriage index

[Kathy Cardoza]

Marilyn

This is posted on the Sao Jorge Marriage Index page:  

To report an improperly transcribed entry please feel free to fill out the 
Report a Correction to The Sao Jorge Index  
form
 as many times as you like (one time for each entry in question).

That should do it for you.  :)

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> On Sep 10, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Marilyn Thompson  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know who corrections should go to for the Sao Jorge marriage 
> index?
> 
> Index names the bride as Roza dos Anjos and it should be Clara dos Anjos
> 
> 
> 
> Manuel Goncalves Fagundes  Clara dos Anjos   11 May 1782  911764-1803
> Ribeira Seca 
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for this great finding tool
> 
> 
> 
> Marilyn T
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Another marriage Sao Jorge

[Sandra Perez]

I am looking at the bottom of page 119.  I  see Manuel Pra. (Pereira)
Fagundes.  On the top of page
120, I see viuvo Barbara Teixeira com filha ? Antonio Pra. Lopes e Isabel ?
deceased.  I would look
for Manuel's first child if this is the right record.

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
wrote:

> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-CALHETA-C-1696-1722/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1696-1722_item1/P118.html
>
> The index has this listed 2 times. I can not find his name on either page.
>
> Manuel Pereira Fagundes  ??? 04 Jul 1718   118
> 1696-1722Calheta
>
> Manuel Pereira Fagundes  ??? 04 Jul 1718   119
> 1696-1722Calheta
>
>
> Obviously I am looking for the brides name. I have Maria Pereira from a
> child's baptism record.
>
>
> Thank you
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I.D.E.S. Fraternal Organization

[Kawika322]

After going to and talking with a few people at the UPEC (now PFSA) a few years 
ago,the IDES books/records are apparently in storage or basement (off-site) I 
believe, and last time I checked, they have not been sorted, organized or gone 
through. 

David

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Corrections to Sao Jorge marriage index

[Marilyn Thompson]

Does anyone know who corrections should go to for the Sao Jorge marriage
index?

Index names the bride as *Roza* dos Anjos and it should be *Clara* dos Anjos


Manuel Goncalves Fagundes  Clara dos Anjos   11 May 1782  911764-1803
 Ribeira Seca


Thank you for this great finding tool


Marilyn T

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Another marriage Sao Jorge

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Ok, the one on 118 is Manuel Pereira de Agueda the one on page 119 is at
the very bottom of the left-hand page, Manuel Pereira (Pra) Fagu then cut
off and the top of right page, widower of Barbara Teixeira. The brides name
is cut off on that one.

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
wrote:

> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-CALHETA-C-1696-1722/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1696-1722_item1/P118.html
>
> The index has this listed 2 times. I can not find his name on either page.
>
> Manuel Pereira Fagundes  ??? 04 Jul 1718   118
> 1696-1722Calheta
>
> Manuel Pereira Fagundes  ??? 04 Jul 1718   119
> 1696-1722Calheta
>
>
> Obviously I am looking for the brides name. I have Maria Pereira from a
> child's baptism record.
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Another marriage Sao Jorge

[Marilyn Thompson]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1696-1722/SJR-CH-CALHETA-C-1696-1722_item1/P118.html

The index has this listed 2 times. I can not find his name on either page.

Manuel Pereira Fagundes  ??? 04 Jul 1718   118
1696-1722Calheta

Manuel Pereira Fagundes  ??? 04 Jul 1718   119
1696-1722Calheta


Obviously I am looking for the brides name. I have Maria Pereira from a
child's baptism record.


Thank you


Marilyn T

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with brides name and those of her parents - Sao Jorge

[Cheri Mello]

The margin and record both say Clara. Compare his "o" to his "a." Also,
note how he writes "L" in ManueL and CLara - it's kinda capitalized. It's
definitely Clara.

Clara dos Anjos is the daughter of Dionisio de Souza Alvares and Ignes
Teixeira, both deceased.

Date is correct.

Groom and parents are from Nossa Senhora do Rosario, of Topo of this
island. They had Lent there. Bride and her parents are from the above named
Sao Tiago, where she was baptized and had Lent there.

Cheri

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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
wrote:

> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1764-1803/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1764-1803_item1/P91.html
>  bottom left
>
> In the body of the text it looks like Clara [ 6 full lines from the bottom
> on the right hand side] but the margin looks like Roza. It was indexed as
> Roza. I have her parents as Dionisio de Souza ___ and Ignes Teixeira _
> *both_* defuncto.
>
> Index says 11 May 1782
>
> What else am I missing?
>
> Thank you in advance
> Marilyn T
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with brides name and those of her parents - Sao Jorge

[Marilyn Thompson]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1764-1803/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1764-1803_item1/P91.html
 bottom left

In the body of the text it looks like Clara [ 6 full lines from the bottom
on the right hand side] but the margin looks like Roza. It was indexed as
Roza. I have her parents as Dionisio de Souza ___ and Ignes Teixeira _
*both_* defuncto.

Index says 11 May 1782

What else am I missing?

Thank you in advance
Marilyn T

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Military Records online

[Kathy Cardoza]

What an interesting find! I wish I knew the answer to your question, but I only 
know what I see on the page ….. location. I suppose the best way to find out is 
to contact the archives. I found this email address…… hopefully, you will get 
an answer from them:  a...@mail.exercito.pt 

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> On Sep 10, 2017, at 10:53 AM, IslandRoutes  wrote:
> 
> Kathy,
> Thank you for posting this!  I found my 4th great grandfather, Felicianno de 
> Mello listed.
> 
> I have a question about the place information.  Is that birth or residency?  
> I ask because I found something more surprising.  There are 3 entries for 
> Jacinto Pacheco.  All of them son of Joao Pacheco Grande.  This is the first 
> entry:
> https://ahm-germil.exercito.pt/details?id=358865&ht=pacheco%20grande
> 
> Everything about these entry matches my 2nd great grandfather except that it 
> says Furnas instead of Fenais d'Ajuda (his birth village).  I don't know how 
> common the Pacheco Grande surname is.  My 3rd great grandfather used it as 
> did some of his siblings (they also used Pacheco Ferreira).  My family used 
> just Pacheco.
> 
> The reason I ask is my gr gr grandfather disappeared twice.  The first time 
> is right after marriage.  From 1756-1863 my gr gr grandparents are missing.  
> They married in his village (Ajuda) in 1756, then they reappear in 1763 in 
> her village, Achada to have what we believe is their second child.  I've 
> checked FVC/Ajuda, Achada, Estrela (his maternal line is from there) and find 
> no trace.
> 
> The second time he goes missing is after my great grandfather, Theodoro, is 
> born.  There are no other mentions of him in the 3 villages above, no obito.
> 
> So, now that I see these military entries, I wonder if this is my guy and 
> could he have been living in Furnas either in the gap after marriage or after 
> Theodoro was born.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 7:01:22 AM UTC-7, Kathy Cardoza wrote:
> I just posted a link to this valuable digital resource on the Azores GenWeb. 
> It can be found under the Maps section of the site or to go directly to the 
> link and explanation of the site:  
> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/maps-churches-and-villages/portuguese-military-records.html
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> 
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I.D.E.S. Fraternal Organization

[Cheri Mello]

Yep, like I said, SOME books are at someone's home, or somewhere at the
respective hall still.

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I.D.E.S. Fraternal Organization

[Cheri Mello]

It kinda depends on locality. Some Catholic churches in California don't
have an IDES, SES, UPEC, etc, etc. affiliated with them. They just organize
a committee and plan their Espirito Santo. Note that I did say SOME.

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I.D.E.S. Fraternal Organization

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Supposedly the IDES was  to turn in their membership books to the Freitas
Library as all of the Fraternal organizations are now under one 'umbrella'.
As of the last 'talk' anyone had with the Freitas Library, the books were
not there or at least the person spoken to didn't really know where they
were!

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 11:06 PM, 'Jeremy G. B-C: Researching Sao Jorge' via
Azores Genealogy  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I just found out that my grandfather was a member of the Irmandade do
> Divono Espirito Santo (I.D.E.S.), does anyone know the whereabouts of their
> records (if they exist)?
>
> Thanks!
>
> JEREMY
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I.D.E.S. Fraternal Organization

[luiznoia .]

Each parish church had an IDES group that planned the local Holy Ghost
celebrations. It was made up of members of the local fraternal group, UPEC
or others.

Eric Edgar



On Sep 10, 2017 11:00 AM, "Cheri Mello"  wrote:

> Yes, I know that the UPEC, IDES, etc, etc were different organizations. I
> know SOME are on the Azores GenWeb, SOME are on Ancestry, SOME are on film,
> and SOME may be in someone's home. So if yours aren't on the Azores GenWeb
> or Ancestry, you will have to wait for the FHL to digitize their film and
> it to become available at FamilySearch. Maybe they've digitized it by now.
> There's no more film, so if they didn't digitize, they'll get to it in the
> next 3 years or so. If they are in someone's home, you are out of luck.
>
> Cheri Mello
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I.D.E.S. Fraternal Organization

[Cheri Mello]

Yes, I know that the UPEC, IDES, etc, etc were different organizations. I
know SOME are on the Azores GenWeb, SOME are on Ancestry, SOME are on film,
and SOME may be in someone's home. So if yours aren't on the Azores GenWeb
or Ancestry, you will have to wait for the FHL to digitize their film and
it to become available at FamilySearch. Maybe they've digitized it by now.
There's no more film, so if they didn't digitize, they'll get to it in the
next 3 years or so. If they are in someone's home, you are out of luck.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I.D.E.S. Fraternal Organization

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

No, Cheri. The UPEC records are on Azores Genweb and Ancestry. I am looking for 
the IDES records (this is not the same thing)
Jeremy 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Military Records online

[IslandRoutes]

Kathy,
Thank you for posting this!  I found my 4th great grandfather, Felicianno 
de Mello listed.

I have a question about the place information.  Is that birth or 
residency?  I ask because I found something more surprising.  There are 3 
entries for Jacinto Pacheco.  All of them son of Joao Pacheco Grande.  This 
is the first entry:
https://ahm-germil.exercito.pt/details?id=358865&ht=pacheco%20grande

Everything about these entry matches my 2nd great grandfather except that 
it says Furnas instead of Fenais d'Ajuda (his birth village).  I don't know 
how common the Pacheco Grande surname is.  My 3rd great grandfather used it 
as did some of his siblings (they also used Pacheco Ferreira).  My family 
used just Pacheco.

The reason I ask is my gr gr grandfather disappeared twice.  The first time 
is right after marriage.  From 1756-1863 my gr gr grandparents are 
missing.  They married in his village (Ajuda) in 1756, then they reappear 
in 1763 in her village, Achada to have what we believe is their second 
child.  I've checked FVC/Ajuda, Achada, Estrela (his maternal line is from 
there) and find no trace.

The second time he goes missing is after my great grandfather, Theodoro, is 
born.  There are no other mentions of him in the 3 villages above, no obito.

So, now that I see these military entries, I wonder if this is my guy and 
could he have been living in Furnas either in the gap after marriage or 
after Theodoro was born.



On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 7:01:22 AM UTC-7, Kathy Cardoza wrote:
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> I just posted a link to this valuable digital resource on the Azores 
> GenWeb. It can be found under the Maps section of the site or to go 
> directly to the link and explanation of the site:  
> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/maps-churches-and-villages/portuguese-military-records.html
>
> Good luck and happy hunting!
>
> Kathy Cardoza
> Coordinator, Azores GenWeb
> ~~~
> Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
> ~~~
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I.D.E.S. Fraternal Organization

[Cheri Mello]

Some are on the Azores GenWeb and some are on Ancestry and some are on film
and some are probably in someone's home. Try Ancestry and the Azores GenWeb
first and hope for the best.

Cheri Mello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] I.D.E.S. Fraternal Organization

['Jeremy G. B-C: Researching Sao Jorge' via Azores Genealogy]

Hello,

I just found out that my grandfather was a member of the Irmandade do 
Divono Espirito Santo (I.D.E.S.), does anyone know the whereabouts of their 
records (if they exist)?

Thanks!

JEREMY

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Military Records online

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Thanks, Kathy!

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 7:01 AM, Kathy Cardoza  wrote:

> I just posted a link to this valuable digital resource on the Azores
> GenWeb. It can be found under the Maps section of the site or to go
> directly to the link and explanation of the site:
> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/maps-churches-and-
> villages/portuguese-military-records.html
>
> Good luck and happy hunting!
>
> Kathy Cardoza
> Coordinator, Azores GenWeb
> ~~~
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> http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
> ~~~
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Difficult abbreviation

[JR]

Vra. = Vieira. It is replicated in the father, Manoel Vra Serodio.

JR

On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 10:13:51 AM UTC-4, Altino wrote:
>
>
>
> Oops, here it is. 
>
> Sent from my iPad 
>
> > On Sep 10, 2017, at 10:03 AM, 'Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote: 
> > 
> > Hi everyone, I'm attaching a file with a marriage record from São 
> Matheus de Calhetas (island of Terceira). The marriage starts at the bottom 
> of the left side and continues onto the top right. The groom is Manuel ? 
> Serodio and so is his dad. I was hoping to get the abbreviated part though 
> because I am having a hard time going further. 
> > 
> > Altino 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Difficult abbreviation

['Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy]

Hi everyone, I'm attaching a file with a marriage record from São Matheus de 
Calhetas (island of Terceira). The marriage starts at the bottom of the left 
side and continues onto the top right. The groom is Manuel ? Serodio and so is 
his dad. I was hoping to get the abbreviated part though because I am having a 
hard time going further.

Altino

Sent from my iPad

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Military Records online

[Kathy Cardoza]

I just posted a link to this valuable digital resource on the Azores GenWeb. It 
can be found under the Maps section of the site or to go directly to the link 
and explanation of the site:  
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/maps-churches-and-villages/portuguese-military-records.html
 


Good luck and happy hunting!

Kathy Cardoza
Coordinator, Azores GenWeb
~~~
Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/index.html
~~~



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