Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"

[Mike B]

Can I get the details of their marriage? Place and date, link if you have it. 
Thank you

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"

['celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy]

Yes, I did find the marriage for Maria Cristo's parents.  I make a notation in 
my FTM file by adding ** after an event to help me remember that I have a copy 
of the document for the event.  I have documents for all the baptisms, 
marriages and almost all the deaths going back to the beginning of the church 
records for this family.  

When one of her sister's died in Mass. she left "$100.00 to my sister, Mary 
Perry, in Oakland, CA."  From the baptism records I have and the fact that 
Maria Cristo lived in Oakland, CA at the time of her sister's death, I believe 
the family "thought" she was a biological member of this family.  I just don't 
have the birth document to "prove" it.

It has been awhile since I worked on Maria Cristo's birth.  I was told by her 
daughter (the oldest of five children) that her mother (Maria Cristo) was 5 
years old when her father, Joao Moraes da Costa died.  So, I looked in each 
village that "touched" where her family lived for Maria Cristo's birth.  (I 
thought maybe her mother had been visiting in nearby village when she was 
born).  No luck there.  

Also, Maria Cristo had a younger brother who also immigrated to the U.S.  I 
have had contact with one of this brother's great grandson and he has not found 
a baptism for Maria Cristo in his research.  

I am hoping a relative of this family will find something about Maria Cristo, 
so I post on this list once a year and hope to find the information I have been 
searching for over 20 years!  

I appreciate any and all the help this list has provided since it began.

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


On Mon, 1/7/19, Mike B  wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Monday, January 7, 2019, 5:20 PM
 
 We’re you able to find a
 marriage record for Joao Morais Da Costa and Jacinth Libania
 in Lomba da Santa Barbara? These are the parents of Maria
 Cristo Morais if I’m following it correctly. 
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"

[Mike B]

We’re you able to find a marriage record for Joao Morais Da Costa and Jacinth 
Libania in Lomba da Santa Barbara? These are the parents of Maria Cristo Morais 
if I’m following it correctly. 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive, "Maria Cristo"

['celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy]

   I have been looking for a document that validates my husband's paternal 
grandmother's birth.
 
 Here is what I have about my husband, Bob Perry's, paternal line.  I have all 
the information except the birth (baptism) of his paternal grandmother.  I call 
her the elusive "Maria Cristo."  I went to the church in RI this year where she 
married to see if there is a margin note that says she was baptized and where 
it occurred.  There is no such note.  

Ancestors of SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY
Generation No. 1
1.  SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**; 
died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles, CA,  USA/CA death index.  He was the son of 2. 
FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA and 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS.  He married (1) ADELINA 
(LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, RI, USA.  She was born 03 
May 1912 in East Providence, RI, USA**, and died 24 Jul 2000 in Hayward, CA,  
USA, Holy Sepulchre, Hayward.  She was the daughter of JACINTHO do CANTO SILVA 
and MARIA PAIXAO da COSTA.
Generation No. 2
2.  FELIPE PEREIRA da SILVA, born 05 Feb 1887 in Soldao, Lajes, Pico,  
Azores**; died 15 Jul 1970 in San Leandro, CA,  USA (buried Holy Sepulchre, 
Hayward).  He was the son of 4. MANUEL PEREIRA da SILVA and 5. MARIA GLORIA da 
ASCENSAO.  He married 3. MARIA CRISTO MORAIS 24 Nov 1907 in Bristol, 
RI/**daughter, Mary Cruz.
3.  MARIA CRISTO MORAIS, born 22 May 1885 in Lomba da Santa Barbara, Sao 
Miguel, Azores/daughter, Mary Cruz; died 03 Sep 1970 in San Leandro, CA,  USA 
(buried Holy Sepulchre, Hayward).  She was the daughter of 6. JOAO MORAIS da 
COSTA and 7. JACINTHA LIBANIA.
Notes for MARIA CRISTO MORAIS:
4/15/2015:  I have searched through all the baptismal records for Lomba da 
Santa Barbara on the island of Sao Miguel.  Joao Ventura has also done this 
search.  In addition, I have searched through all the records of the villages 
surrounding Lomba da Santa Barbara for a "Maria" whose grandparents were the 
same as Maria Christo's parents.  My thought was that Maria Christo may have 
been raised by the family she though was her biological family and was the 
child of someone else in the family.  I have not found her in any of these 
searches.  As of this date, I continue to follow any leads I find that will 
give me proof of her birth to the family to which she believed she belonged.
1/12/2017:  Wrote to St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI and asked them to look 
for any information that she gave when she married in 1909.  I have found that 
the information I had for her arrival was not her so I am not sure when she 
arrived in the US.
Children of FELIPE and MARIA are:
i.Mary Perry, born 26 Jun 1911 in East Providence, RI/self; died in 
Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA; married Fernando Cruz Sr Bef. 1937 
in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1910 in Rhode Island, USA; died in 
Buried Holy Sepulchre Cemetery, Hayward, CA.
1ii.SERAPHINE EDWARD PERRY, born 23 Aug 1912 in East Providence, 
RI, USA**; died 17 Aug 1997 in Los Angeles, CA,  USA/CA death index; married 
ADELINA (LENA) CANTO SILVA 15 Nov 1933 in East Providence, RI, USA.
iii.Phillip S. Perry, born 29 Dec 1913 in East Providence, RI, 
USA/Vitalsearch; died 29 Mar 1989 in Alameda County, CA, USA/Vitalsearch; 
married Margaret Roark Abt. 1938 in East Providence, RI, USA; born Abt. 1913 in 
East Providence, RI, USA.
iv.John (Johnny) Pereira-da-Silva, born 08 Apr 1916 in East 
Providence, RI/Ronnie; died 22 Nov 2000 in Oakland, CA, USA; married Hilda Cruz 
1944 in Bristol, RI, USA; born 26 Feb 1923 in East Providence, RI.
v.Manuel (Manny) Pereira da Silva, born Aft. 1921 in East 
Providence, RI/Mary Cruz; died 06 Oct 2000 in RI, USA; married Pauline Louise 
Abt. 1935; born Abt. 1915 in /Lena.

Any help in “documenting” her birth is what I need.


Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism translations

[Mike B]

That is interesting how Delphinas name is different here compared to being 
Do Espirito Santo prior. 

Can anyone help me pull some age ranges out of this marriage record if they 
exist within it? Im trying to narrow down a search period for the Baptisms 
of the two married within it and having a real hard time finding them. 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1828-1839/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1828-1839_item1/P77.html

Thank you

On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 9:45:40 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> The further you go back in time, the more abbrevations you see. They are 
> not supposed to abbreviate in the 2nd time period, but you may see some 
> abbreviations here or there. The first line names her as Claudina do Esp^o 
> (or may be Es^o) S^to (the ^ means the next letters are raised).
>
> Yes, Claudina do Espirito Santo filha (daughter) de Jose da Costa 
> Cyprianno (today Ciprano) ede (should be "e de" for "and of") Tereza 
> deJesus (he ran de Jesus together). OK, I thought it was weird in the first 
> document that your guy was Jose Cipriano. Cipriano is a first name and I 
> figured there was a missing name that the priest dropped off. And now it 
> appears. My best guess (and you'll figure this out as you collect more 
> relatives) - Your Jose da Costa was tired of being confused with his uncle, 
> Jose da Costa, his cousin, Jose da Costa, his other cousin, Jose da Costa, 
> and his nephew, Jose da Costa. Not to mention the 3 other Costa families in 
> that church, all of whom have someone name Jose da Costa. So he tacked on 
> Ciprano from his relative. You'll figure it out as you go back it time if 
> it was his dad, his grandfather or some other relative. Cipriano is less 
> common, so it would be a good identifier. Better than being called 
> Grasshopper, Shorty, Lefty, or For Example (yes, those are all literal 
> translations of names people have tacked on).
>
> Delfina is Delfina da Conceição now. (Wasn't she Delfina do Espirito Santo 
> before?) They wrote it with the old spelling of Conceicam instead. This is 
> where you'll have to see how Delfina married, and how she appears on each 
> of her kids' baptism (she wasn't present) and go with the "majority rules" 
> rule.
>
> You should find about 6-8 kids before your Manuel's birth. He seems like 
> he may be a kid born towards the end. He was either the first Manuel or the 
> first one that lived to adulthood. Or maybe they had a lot of girls.
>
> The date is 19 Mar 1832. The bride and groom were baptized in that church 
> and spent the last 3 Lents there. Or fulfilled their Lenten duties there, I 
> should say.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 9:16 PM Mike B > 
> wrote:
>
>> I believe I found the marriage record for Manoel Botelho birthdate 
>> unknown and his wife Claudina do Espírito Santo.
>>
>> Her name in the first line doesn’t really look like it says Espírito 
>> Santo, but if you look further down at 6 from the bottom it clearly says 
>> Claudina Do Espírito Santo filla? Jose do ..something.. Ceppriano Ed’s 
>> Thereza de Jezus. 
>>
>> Seven from bottom shows Manoel Botelho follows Jose Botelho and Delfina. 
>>
>> Seems to make sense? Was literally about to give up and start searching 
>> nearby churches but it popped up, over a decade prior to having Manoel 
>> Botelho 1849. 
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1828-1839/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1828-1839_item1/P77.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Margin Note Ribeirinha 1900 baptism

[Cheri Mello]

I have no clue as the 2nd name of the wife. The writing is a cross between
print and cursive and rather "bubbly." Makes it hard to read, especially
when squished.

I see the marriage date of 10 Nov 1923. I think he died 28 Jan 1979.
Compare that 1 (looks like a cursive lower case "L") with some of the other
1s in that column. The 1s are written 2 different ways. Also the 9s. Some
of the 9s are closed loop and some are not.

I think the 3rd note says he married under the name of Domingos Pimentel,
but you probably got that part.

Hopefully someone else can get the bride's 2nd name.


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 6:23 PM Richard Francis Pimentel <
richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *Hi, I** can make out some of this, in the first note, it looks like he
> married 10 Nov 1923. I see a name which looks like Dores ……….?In the
> second note, it says he died 28 Apr 1975. In Calheta, Sao Jorge.*
>
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1900-1905/SMG-RG-RIBEIRINHA-B-1900-1905_item1/P49.html
> 
> *
>
>
>
> *I just need to know if I have the event and dates correct and the name of
> the birde.*
>
>
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>
>
> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>
>
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] António Cordeiro Rodovalho and Mariana de Jesus Relva

[Cheri Mello]

Repost for Pam Santos, pamsantos65 at gmail.com

Does anyone happen to have any information on this couple by chance? Their
son Jose Cordeiro Affonso born about 1749 in Relva, married  Mariana de
Rosa on 24 Feb 1769.

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