Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestrfy.com help

2019-03-13 Thread Leonor Bertoni
I turned off hints and trulines, at least for the next little while.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 9:16 PM Liz Migliori  wrote:

> I too have received some incorrect info from Trulines.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 13, 2019, at 3:38 PM, 'Jo Anne Hartmann' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Have you contacted Ancestry?  I sure hope this doesn't happen to me! I've
> shared my tree with other far removed Portuguese relatives as well.
>
> Jo Anne Mello Hartmann
>
> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019, 02:53:34 PM PDT, Gordon soares <
> gws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I got an email from someone who found me through DNA and who is my 4th
> cousin. She needed some help on her tree with one of our mutual relatives
> and wanted some information on the individual which I had.  So I gave her
> access to my Ancestry tree. Subsequently I have discovered that she has
> taken my entire tree and connected it to that one mutual relative on her
> tree. Now every time she adds someone from her non-portugues family I get
> an email from Ancestry saying “New content has been added to your tree”.
> Somehow she has blended my tree into hers so that her tree is now also
> mine.I resent using all the work put into my tree of 17,000+ people by
> someone who contributed nothing to my tree and basically stole my tree of
> information that I believe only fits a far removed Portugues relative on
> her tree.  I have now blocked anyone from viewing my tree and have tried to
> disengage any part of mine from hers but to no avail.  Does anyone have
> some suggestions for me on this whole deal? I no longer use Ancestry.com
> and have FTM.
>
> GordonSoares
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestrfy.com help

2019-03-13 Thread Liz Migliori
I too have received some incorrect info from Trulines.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 13, 2019, at 3:38 PM, 'Jo Anne Hartmann' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> Have you contacted Ancestry?  I sure hope this doesn't happen to me! I've 
> shared my tree with other far removed Portuguese relatives as well.
> 
> Jo Anne Mello Hartmann
> 
> On Wednesday, March 13, 2019, 02:53:34 PM PDT, Gordon soares 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I got an email from someone who found me through DNA and who is my 4th 
> cousin. She needed some help on her tree with one of our mutual relatives and 
> wanted some information on the individual which I had.  So I gave her access 
> to my Ancestry tree. Subsequently I have discovered that she has taken my 
> entire tree and connected it to that one mutual relative on her tree. Now 
> every time she adds someone from her non-portugues family I get an email from 
> Ancestry saying “New content has been added to your tree”.  Somehow she has 
> blended my tree into hers so that her tree is now also mine.I resent using 
> all the work put into my tree of 17,000+ people by someone who contributed 
> nothing to my tree and basically stole my tree of information that I believe 
> only fits a far removed Portugues relative on her tree.  I have now blocked 
> anyone from viewing my tree and have tried to disengage any part of mine from 
> hers but to no avail.  Does anyone have some suggestions for me on this whole 
> deal? I no longer use Ancestry.com and have FTM.
> 
> GordonSoares
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestrfy.com help

2019-03-13 Thread JesseAndDeborah Mendonca
Sounds like a nightmare, Gordon.

Is it possible you made her a collaborator instead of a guest on your
ancestry tree?   If so, she actually could change your tree.  However,
removing her means you can take back control.   Change your password.

So many people don’t understand how varied a 4th cousin might be. To think
your tree solves hers is just crazy.  I wish there was a way to know when a
tree is obviously inaccurate as hers now is.  If you haven’t been on
Ancestry recently you don’t know that ThruLines is offering up potential
ancestor names like they are candy.   For Portuguese Ancestry, we all need
to be skeptical.   That why I am so glad to have the documents to search.

Good luck on your tree.

Debbie Shepherd Mendonca




On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 3:06 PM Leonor Bertoni 
wrote:

> I should add that, when my mother in law passed away, I tried to connect
> her tree to mine and Ancestry wouldn’t allow it. This was in January, I’m
> not sure if they changed anything with the new update.
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 6:04 PM Leonor Bertoni 
> wrote:
>
>> Hmmm, what it sounds like is that she gave you access to her tree as
>> well, so you get a notification when she adds to her tree. This happens to
>> me as I’ve shared my tree with other family members. Ancestry does not
>> allow merging or blending of two treesonline, she may have downloaded your
>> tree and used FTM to merge it to her tree, then uploaded her tree to
>> Ancestry, but again, that would not affect your own tree, unless you gave
>> her your username and password. In your email settings, you can stop the
>> new content emails, you can also ask her to deny you access to her tree.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 5:53 PM Gordon soares  wrote:
>>
>>> I got an email from someone who found me through DNA and who is my 4th
>>> cousin. She needed some help on her tree with one of our mutual relatives
>>> and wanted some information on the individual which I had.  So I gave her
>>> access to my Ancestry tree. Subsequently I have discovered that she has
>>> taken my entire tree and connected it to that one mutual relative on her
>>> tree. Now every time she adds someone from her non-portugues family I get
>>> an email from Ancestry saying “New content has been added to your tree”.
>>> Somehow she has blended my tree into hers so that her tree is now also
>>> mine.I resent using all the work put into my tree of 17,000+ people by
>>> someone who contributed nothing to my tree and basically stole my tree of
>>> information that I believe only fits a far removed Portugues relative on
>>> her tree.  I have now blocked anyone from viewing my tree and have tried to
>>> disengage any part of mine from hers but to no avail.  Does anyone have
>>> some suggestions for me on this whole deal? I no longer use Ancestry.com
>>> and have FTM.
>>>
>>> GordonSoares
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestrfy.com help

2019-03-13 Thread 'Jo Anne Hartmann' via Azores Genealogy
 Have you contacted Ancestry?  I sure hope this doesn't happen to me! I've 
shared my tree with other far removed Portuguese relatives as well.
Jo Anne Mello Hartmann
On Wednesday, March 13, 2019, 02:53:34 PM PDT, Gordon soares 
 wrote:  
 
 I got an email from someone who found me through DNA and who is my 4th cousin. 
She needed some help on her tree with one of our mutual relatives and wanted 
some information on the individual which I had.  So I gave her access to my 
Ancestry tree. Subsequently I have discovered that she has taken my entire tree 
and connected it to that one mutual relative on her tree. Now every time she 
adds someone from her non-portugues family I get an email from Ancestry saying 
“New content has been added to your tree”.  Somehow she has blended my tree 
into hers so that her tree is now also mine.I resent using all the work put 
into my tree of 17,000+ people by someone who contributed nothing to my tree 
and basically stole my tree of information that I believe only fits a far 
removed Portugues relative on her tree.  I have now blocked anyone from viewing 
my tree and have tried to disengage any part of mine from hers but to no avail. 
 Does anyone have some suggestions for me on this whole deal? I no longer use 
Ancestry.com and have FTM.

GordonSoares

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestrfy.com help

2019-03-13 Thread Liz Migliori
Good to know

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 13, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Leonor Bertoni  wrote:
> 
> I should add that, when my mother in law passed away, I tried to connect her 
> tree to mine and Ancestry wouldn’t allow it. This was in January, I’m not 
> sure if they changed anything with the new update.
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 6:04 PM Leonor Bertoni  
>> wrote:
>> Hmmm, what it sounds like is that she gave you access to her tree as well, 
>> so you get a notification when she adds to her tree. This happens to me as 
>> I’ve shared my tree with other family members. Ancestry does not allow 
>> merging or blending of two treesonline, she may have downloaded your tree 
>> and used FTM to merge it to her tree, then uploaded her tree to Ancestry, 
>> but again, that would not affect your own tree, unless you gave her your 
>> username and password. In your email settings, you can stop the new content 
>> emails, you can also ask her to deny you access to her tree. 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 5:53 PM Gordon soares  wrote:
>>> I got an email from someone who found me through DNA and who is my 4th 
>>> cousin. She needed some help on her tree with one of our mutual relatives 
>>> and wanted some information on the individual which I had.  So I gave her 
>>> access to my Ancestry tree. Subsequently I have discovered that she has 
>>> taken my entire tree and connected it to that one mutual relative on her 
>>> tree. Now every time she adds someone from her non-portugues family I get 
>>> an email from Ancestry saying “New content has been added to your tree”.  
>>> Somehow she has blended my tree into hers so that her tree is now also 
>>> mine.I resent using all the work put into my tree of 17,000+ people by 
>>> someone who contributed nothing to my tree and basically stole my tree of 
>>> information that I believe only fits a far removed Portugues relative on 
>>> her tree.  I have now blocked anyone from viewing my tree and have tried to 
>>> disengage any part of mine from hers but to no avail.  Does anyone have 
>>> some suggestions for me on this whole deal? I no longer use Ancestry.com 
>>> and have FTM.
>>> 
>>> GordonSoares
>>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestrfy.com help

2019-03-13 Thread Leonor Bertoni
I should add that, when my mother in law passed away, I tried to connect
her tree to mine and Ancestry wouldn’t allow it. This was in January, I’m
not sure if they changed anything with the new update.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 6:04 PM Leonor Bertoni 
wrote:

> Hmmm, what it sounds like is that she gave you access to her tree as well,
> so you get a notification when she adds to her tree. This happens to me as
> I’ve shared my tree with other family members. Ancestry does not allow
> merging or blending of two treesonline, she may have downloaded your tree
> and used FTM to merge it to her tree, then uploaded her tree to Ancestry,
> but again, that would not affect your own tree, unless you gave her your
> username and password. In your email settings, you can stop the new content
> emails, you can also ask her to deny you access to her tree.
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 5:53 PM Gordon soares  wrote:
>
>> I got an email from someone who found me through DNA and who is my 4th
>> cousin. She needed some help on her tree with one of our mutual relatives
>> and wanted some information on the individual which I had.  So I gave her
>> access to my Ancestry tree. Subsequently I have discovered that she has
>> taken my entire tree and connected it to that one mutual relative on her
>> tree. Now every time she adds someone from her non-portugues family I get
>> an email from Ancestry saying “New content has been added to your tree”.
>> Somehow she has blended my tree into hers so that her tree is now also
>> mine.I resent using all the work put into my tree of 17,000+ people by
>> someone who contributed nothing to my tree and basically stole my tree of
>> information that I believe only fits a far removed Portugues relative on
>> her tree.  I have now blocked anyone from viewing my tree and have tried to
>> disengage any part of mine from hers but to no avail.  Does anyone have
>> some suggestions for me on this whole deal? I no longer use Ancestry.com
>> and have FTM.
>>
>> GordonSoares
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestrfy.com help

2019-03-13 Thread Leonor Bertoni
Hmmm, what it sounds like is that she gave you access to her tree as well,
so you get a notification when she adds to her tree. This happens to me as
I’ve shared my tree with other family members. Ancestry does not allow
merging or blending of two treesonline, she may have downloaded your tree
and used FTM to merge it to her tree, then uploaded her tree to Ancestry,
but again, that would not affect your own tree, unless you gave her your
username and password. In your email settings, you can stop the new content
emails, you can also ask her to deny you access to her tree.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 5:53 PM Gordon soares  wrote:

> I got an email from someone who found me through DNA and who is my 4th
> cousin. She needed some help on her tree with one of our mutual relatives
> and wanted some information on the individual which I had.  So I gave her
> access to my Ancestry tree. Subsequently I have discovered that she has
> taken my entire tree and connected it to that one mutual relative on her
> tree. Now every time she adds someone from her non-portugues family I get
> an email from Ancestry saying “New content has been added to your tree”.
> Somehow she has blended my tree into hers so that her tree is now also
> mine.I resent using all the work put into my tree of 17,000+ people by
> someone who contributed nothing to my tree and basically stole my tree of
> information that I believe only fits a far removed Portugues relative on
> her tree.  I have now blocked anyone from viewing my tree and have tried to
> disengage any part of mine from hers but to no avail.  Does anyone have
> some suggestions for me on this whole deal? I no longer use Ancestry.com
> and have FTM.
>
> GordonSoares
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestrfy.com help

2019-03-13 Thread Gordon soares
I got an email from someone who found me through DNA and who is my 4th cousin. 
She needed some help on her tree with one of our mutual relatives and wanted 
some information on the individual which I had.  So I gave her access to my 
Ancestry tree. Subsequently I have discovered that she has taken my entire tree 
and connected it to that one mutual relative on her tree. Now every time she 
adds someone from her non-portugues family I get an email from Ancestry saying 
“New content has been added to your tree”.  Somehow she has blended my tree 
into hers so that her tree is now also mine.I resent using all the work put 
into my tree of 17,000+ people by someone who contributed nothing to my tree 
and basically stole my tree of information that I believe only fits a far 
removed Portugues relative on her tree.  I have now blocked anyone from viewing 
my tree and have tried to disengage any part of mine from hers but to no avail. 
 Does anyone have some suggestions for me on this whole deal? I no longer use 
Ancestry.com and have FTM.

GordonSoares

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Confusing Birth Dates

2019-03-13 Thread Leonor Bertoni
Thanks Cheri. I think recording the birthday on the certificate is probably
the best idea. Not everyone knows that's not their real birthday and, in
the future if someone is looking, they may be using their recorded birthday
as reference.

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 12:39, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Good question. I'm guessing it could go either way. You could record the
> actual birthday and in your note/memo field, explain the discrepancy. Or
> you could record what is on the paper and put the real birthday in your
> memo/note field. If someone is going to duplicate your work, they would go
> looking for the date on the paper.
>
> In my discrepancy case, I've recorded the date on the certificate in my
> program with notes written in my memo field. I bet half the people would do
> it the other way. Go with whatever you feel.
> Cheri
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 8:03 AM  wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>> Both my brother and my aunt were registered 2 years after they were born.
>> They were born a month apart, my parents couldn't get married because dad
>> was in the army and stationed elsewhere and they did not want to register a
>> baby out of wedlock. My grandfather was away at sea when my aunt was born.
>> My father returned home but my grandfather died at sea when my aunt was 4
>> months old. Long story short, the kids were 2 years old when they were
>> finally registered but because there would be a fine if kids where not
>> registered within the first year of birth, the kids were registered as if
>> they were a year old instead of 2 years old, so their birth day and month
>> is correct, but on paper, they are a year younger than what they really
>> are.  My question is, how would you register their birthday? Would you
>> register their actual birthday or their on paper birthday with a note
>> saying explaining the discrepancy?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baptism of Maria, Manadas Sao Jorge, 1854

2019-03-13 Thread bsei2816
Thanks again Margaret.  I think I understand bur the word choice seems 
odd.  I'm just throwing that out there.

Bill

On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 5:55:32 AM UTC-7, Mara wrote:

> viuvo, q mepedio lhe lansase neste termo por sua filha
>
> [que me pediu lhe lançasse .]
>
> Margaret
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:24 AM > wrote:
>
>> Maria was born to a single mother and a widow.  I would like to know the 
>> words after the father's name that I assume is his admitting to being the 
>> father.  Starts on line 4 with "viuvo…" and ends next line I believe 
>> with"...sua filha ??, fregueses…"
>> (bottom right)
>>
>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-MANADAS-B-1844-1860/SJR-VL-MANADAS-B-1844-1860_item1/P83.html*
>>  
>> 
>>
>> Bill Seidler
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