[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help Costa Pimental families

2019-06-03 Thread Mary Pimentel Wheeler
Do you have any birth/death/marriage dates for your Jerome Sebastian 
Pimentel?  I have several Sebastiao Pimentels in my tree, from Flores, and 
many of their male children were named (first name) Sebastiao Pimentel.  
I'm wondering if there is a connection somewhere?

On Sunday, June 2, 2019 at 9:16:28 AM UTC-7, Janet Carminati wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I believe I have found the first baptism records of the Costa side of my 
> family who settled in Napa in the late 1800's along with the Pimental 
> family.  Several Costas married several Pimentals including my great great 
> grandparents Jerome Sebastian Pimental and Conceicao Marie Costa.
>
> I am having a hard time reading the names (parent's, god parents, and 
> confirming child name) - if anyone would be willing to help decipher these 
> records I would very much appreciate it!
>
> The family was from Santa Cruz, Flores and the records that I believe 
> might be the following family members are below:
>
> 3 siblings (Ermelinda, Joseph, John Costa) - the parents are Maria de 
> Jesus Azevedo and ? Costa
>
> Ermelinda A Costa born July 18, 1867:
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1865-1870/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1865-1870_item1/P71.html
>
> Jose (Joseph) Francisco Costa born Nov 1869 (I do not have date):
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1865-1870/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1865-1870_item1/P162.html
>
> Joao (John) Costa born Oct 22 1871:
> 2 possible Joao Costas:
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1870-1875/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1870-1875_item1/P38.html
> or 
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1870-1875/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1870-1875_item1/P40.html
>
>
>
> The generation above include the following siblings: (Conceicao, Antone, 
> Margarida and sister in law Maria Azevedo married to the unknown first name 
> Costa husband)
>
> Conceicao Marie Costa born Nov 3 1861:
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1861-1865/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1861-1865_item1/P30.html
>
> The older siblings are in a different book and the handwriting is much 
> more difficult to decipher.  Can anyone tell me what row to find the year 
> and month so I might narrow in on these family members:
> page 1 of the years 1842-1857 is at the below link:
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1842-1857/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1842-1857_item1/P3.html
>
> Antone Costa born 1855 (month not known)
> Maria E Costa born 1850 (month not known)
> Margarida Costa born 1848 (month not known)
> Maria de Jesus Azevedo (sister in law) born Jan 15 1843 - not sure if also 
> from Santa Cruz.
>
> Thank you all for your help.  So exciting that after about 5 years I might 
> have traced part of the family back to the Azores - and thanks to the UPEC 
> records which are the only documents I've found listing the town which 
> helped narrow my search!
>
> Regards,
> Janet Carminati 
>
>
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help Costa Pimental families

2019-06-03 Thread William Seidler


Below is my take on the parent and grandparent names for Ermalinda, José, 
and two named João.  I see no indication that they are related to each 
other or the family you seek.  The link you provided to a record for 
"Conceição" has no Conceição that I can see on that page.  The closest I 
see is an exposto (male foundling) named Cornelio.


Hermalinda (sp?) Born 18 Jul 1867 and baptized on 21 July 1867

Father: Francisco Jose de Machado, natural of Santo Antonio, Magdalena, 
Island of Pico

Mother: Maria de Jesus, natural of this parish. Parents married in this 
parish where they live.

Paternal grandparents: Manuel Gonçalves Ferreira and Maria? Eulalia?

Maternal grandparents: João José da Costa and Maria de Jesus

 

José: Born 20 Nov 1869 and baptized on 25 Nov 1869

Father: José Francisco Abreu 

Mother: Rita Thomasia; both parents natural of this parish where they live 
and were married.

Paternal grandparents: Francisco Antonio Abreu and Maria de Jesus

Maternal grandparents: José Noresio? de Simas and Maria Thomasia

 

1st João: Born 21 Oct 1871 and baptized on 25 Oct 1871

Father: José Caetano Simião

Mother: Anna de Jesus Carvalho; both parents natural of this parish

Paternal Grandparents: Manuel Caetano Simião and Anna Emilia

Maternal Grandparents: João Furtado Carvalho and Ignacia de Jesus

 

2nd João: Born 15 Nov 1871 and baptized on 19 Nov 1871.

Father: Antonio Caetano Noia

Mother: Rosa de Jesus; both parents natural of this parish

Paternal grandparents: José Caetano Noia e Maria de Jesus

Maternal grandparents: José Coelho Salvador and Margarida de Jesus


I hope you find some help in this.  Hopefully following Cheri's advice you 
can find a more definitive record connection.


Bill Seidler

On Sunday, June 2, 2019 at 11:23:40 AM UTC-7, Janet Carminati wrote:
>
> Hello Cheri, 
> Thanks for the advice on how to work backwards. I don’t have any 
> information on their marriages (except those that married in CA) so might 
> be at a dead end but will keep at it!  Could you please let me know what 
> the parent and grandparents names are in the 3 records as I can’t make them 
> out?   
> Thanks again, 
> Janet

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