Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question re:Portuguese surname traditions, going back to my children's great-grandfather.

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Josephine,
To do research, you need a name, a date, and a place. You have a date of
1882 and a place of Hawaii, yet no name. You need to state what you know
about the immigrant ancestor, including all names that you have found. We
are unable to help you otherwise.
Thanks, Cheri
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jomig...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Their great-grandfather sailed from the Azores under a name different from
> the name used after immigrating to Hawaii in 1882.
> Any input or comments to help give a clearer understanding would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> -Josephine Miguel
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Question re:Portuguese surname traditions, going back to my children's great-grandfather.

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Their great-grandfather sailed from the Azores under a name different from 
the name used after immigrating to Hawaii in 1882. 
Any input or comments to help give a clearer understanding would be greatly 
appreciated.

-Josephine Miguel


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help Costa Pimental families

[JR]

Page 31, Jeronymo, filho de Manoel Sebastiao Pimentel e sua mulher Maria do 
Rozario moradores na Fajazinha, neto paterno de Sebastiao Antonio Pimentel 
e sua mulher Anna da Trinadade (confirmed by marriage record), neto materna 
de Manoel de Freitas e Maio e sua mulher Maria do Rozario todos nats? desta 
fregueszia de NS do Remedios freguezia das Fajas, Ilha das Flores; born Nov 
1- 1852, bap- Nov 2- 1852; Padrinho, Jeronymo das Freitas (no godmother).

 

Below is the marriage, page 35 verso:

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1837-1845/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1837-1845_item1/P37.html

 

Jan 9- 1845, Fajazinha, NS dos Remedios, Manoel Sebastiao Pimentel, filho 
de Sebastiao de Pimentel and Anna da Trindade com Maria do Rozario, filha 
de Manoel de Freitas e Maio and Maria do Rozario naturaes desta parochial 
onde contrahentes forao baptizados (they were baptised in same parish)

 

JR

On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 11:58:57 AM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Hi Janet C,
>
> Many older spellings have the "y" instead of the "i." So he was recorded 
> as Jeronymo, which in modern Portuguese would be Jeronimo. Record Jeronimo 
> in your genealogy program and make a note that he is recorded with the 
> older spelling of Jeronymo.
>
> You are lucky. Grandparents aren't recorded in this time period, but this 
> priest chose to do so. Paternal grandparents: Sebastiao Antonio Pimentel 
> and Anna de Santa Josepha (not sure about that Santa Josepha). Maternals: 
> Manuel de Something Maia de  and Maria do Rosario. 
>
> Yes, you have the birth date correct. Many of our immigrant ancestors 
> didn't know their actual birth date.
>
> Someone else will be able to get those missing words. Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 9:38 AM Janet Carminati  > wrote:
>
>> Hello Mary and others,
>>
>> I believe the below link is my Jerome although would appreciate help with 
>> the name in the margin as there appears to be a Y within the name.  He was 
>> born Nov (1?) in 1852 which is slightly off from his obit and gravestone.  
>> Son of Manuel Sebastiao Pimentel and Maria de Rosario also in Fajãzinha.  I 
>> traced the family to that village from his nephews entry in the UPEC 
>> records.  He has a younger brother Vincent and older brother Manuel.  I’m 
>> still trying to determine the relation between Sylvester who I believe 
>> might be his uncle - I am having a hard time reading the handwriting of his 
>> records.
>>
>> Sylvester, Jerome, Manuel & Francisco all went to wild horse valley 
>> (Napa/Sonoma border).  Manuel returned to the Azores after he was 
>> naturalized, married and had a son Antonio and then died in the Azores.  
>> Antonio and his mother Maria de Gloria then immigrated to Sonoma the early 
>> 1900s.
>>
>> Jerome (sp?) baptism record:
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1850-1860/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1850-1860_item1/P32.html
>>
>> Thanks for any help anyone can offer!
>> Janet
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help Costa Pimental families

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Janet C,

Many older spellings have the "y" instead of the "i." So he was recorded as
Jeronymo, which in modern Portuguese would be Jeronimo. Record Jeronimo in
your genealogy program and make a note that he is recorded with the older
spelling of Jeronymo.

You are lucky. Grandparents aren't recorded in this time period, but this
priest chose to do so. Paternal grandparents: Sebastiao Antonio Pimentel
and Anna de Santa Josepha (not sure about that Santa Josepha). Maternals:
Manuel de Something Maia de  and Maria do Rosario.

Yes, you have the birth date correct. Many of our immigrant ancestors
didn't know their actual birth date.

Someone else will be able to get those missing words. Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 9:38 AM Janet Carminati 
wrote:

> Hello Mary and others,
>
> I believe the below link is my Jerome although would appreciate help with
> the name in the margin as there appears to be a Y within the name.  He was
> born Nov (1?) in 1852 which is slightly off from his obit and gravestone.
> Son of Manuel Sebastiao Pimentel and Maria de Rosario also in Fajãzinha.  I
> traced the family to that village from his nephews entry in the UPEC
> records.  He has a younger brother Vincent and older brother Manuel.  I’m
> still trying to determine the relation between Sylvester who I believe
> might be his uncle - I am having a hard time reading the handwriting of his
> records.
>
> Sylvester, Jerome, Manuel & Francisco all went to wild horse valley
> (Napa/Sonoma border).  Manuel returned to the Azores after he was
> naturalized, married and had a son Antonio and then died in the Azores.
> Antonio and his mother Maria de Gloria then immigrated to Sonoma the early
> 1900s.
>
> Jerome (sp?) baptism record:
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1850-1860/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1850-1860_item1/P32.html
>
> Thanks for any help anyone can offer!
> Janet
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help Costa Pimental families

[Janet Carminati]

Hello Mary and others,

I believe the below link is my Jerome although would appreciate help with the 
name in the margin as there appears to be a Y within the name.  He was born Nov 
(1?) in 1852 which is slightly off from his obit and gravestone.  Son of Manuel 
Sebastiao Pimentel and Maria de Rosario also in Fajãzinha.  I traced the family 
to that village from his nephews entry in the UPEC records.  He has a younger 
brother Vincent and older brother Manuel.  I’m still trying to determine the 
relation between Sylvester who I believe might be his uncle - I am having a 
hard time reading the handwriting of his records.

Sylvester, Jerome, Manuel & Francisco all went to wild horse valley 
(Napa/Sonoma border).  Manuel returned to the Azores after he was naturalized, 
married and had a son Antonio and then died in the Azores.  Antonio and his 
mother Maria de Gloria then immigrated to Sonoma the early 1900s.

Jerome (sp?) baptism record:
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1850-1860/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1850-1860_item1/P32.html

Thanks for any help anyone can offer!
Janet

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