Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Anthony S,

The Azores are divided into 3 districts. So which island again? And you are
searching before 1911 (before 1905 on most of Sao Miguel), correct?
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 8:25 PM Anthony Silver 
wrote:

> that's what the ossuary look like.
> hmmm, I think I have seen something like that here in Australia.
> so, regarding the archive, where would I go for those?
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 7:41 AM 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I’m sorry too! He’s 83 now, so a sorrow that just doesn’t go away :(
>> Susan
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I would think *most* people would be just bones? There are always
>> exceptions. So sorry your cousin saw that.
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 11:10 AM Maria Lima 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Susan, thanks for sharing this- very moving.  I can’t imagine...
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2020, at 1:01 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
>>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Thank you Monica for the image.
>>>
>>> I saw the one at Santa Catarina church in Castelo Branco and it was more
>>> like what Cheri said. like a long big dog house maybe.
>>>
>>> Along this subject I had a memory of one of my mother’s first cousins
>>> telling us when he came to this country (after the volcanic eruption on
>>> Faial) that he witnessed his grandmothers bones being exhumed. He told me
>>> this in the 1960s and I recently visited him and asked him about it (I
>>> thought it was my great grandmother but turns out it was on his mother’s
>>> side). I felt so bad because he started to cry because he saw her red hair
>>> and she was recognizable to him. His wife seemed to indicate that a family
>>> member had to be present. I was so sorry I had brought the subject up and i
>>> would think it would be such a painful experience for anyone to have to
>>> witness this. Have any of you heard that there (used to be at least) this
>>> custom?
>>>
>>> Susan Vargas Murphy
>>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2020, at 8:29 AM, 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy <
>>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I've recently had to deal with my father's bones being placed in an
>>> ossuary.
>>>
>>> My father passed away in 1987 and the cemetery had placed him on the
>>> list to exhume back in 2017. Instead of his bones to be placed in a mass
>>> grave of bones, I had the option to have him placed in a n ossuary in the
>>> same cemetery. There was a fee.
>>>
>>> I have provided a link to the image from facebook when it was being
>>> blessed by the parish priest. Just copy and paste it in your browser.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/matrizdascapelas.paroquia/photos/a.890467641120771/1110441779123355/?type=3
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Monica
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 10:46:26 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Repost for Anthony Silver, thecoloursilver.82 at gmail.com

 Anthony said:
 << is the Ossuary a building ?>>

 It depends. Try Google (or your favorite search engine).
 Here's Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossuary
 Here's a general Google search (you might want to click on the Images
 tab):
 https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d=ossuary

 The only one I saw in the Azores was the size of a dog house. So in
 that case, I saw a little concrete building. Maybe someone else has seen
 one in another freguesia. When I've gone to the Azores, I'm in the
 archives. I don't go to the cemeteries, as I know my ancestors are no
 longer in marked graves.

 Hope this helps,
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary

[Anthony Silver]

that's what the ossuary look like.
hmmm, I think I have seen something like that here in Australia.
so, regarding the archive, where would I go for those?


On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 7:41 AM 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I’m sorry too! He’s 83 now, so a sorrow that just doesn’t go away :(
> Susan
>
> On Jan 16, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> 
> I would think *most* people would be just bones? There are always
> exceptions. So sorry your cousin saw that.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 11:10 AM Maria Lima 
> wrote:
>
>> Susan, thanks for sharing this- very moving.  I can’t imagine...
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2020, at 1:01 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Thank you Monica for the image.
>>
>> I saw the one at Santa Catarina church in Castelo Branco and it was more
>> like what Cheri said. like a long big dog house maybe.
>>
>> Along this subject I had a memory of one of my mother’s first cousins
>> telling us when he came to this country (after the volcanic eruption on
>> Faial) that he witnessed his grandmothers bones being exhumed. He told me
>> this in the 1960s and I recently visited him and asked him about it (I
>> thought it was my great grandmother but turns out it was on his mother’s
>> side). I felt so bad because he started to cry because he saw her red hair
>> and she was recognizable to him. His wife seemed to indicate that a family
>> member had to be present. I was so sorry I had brought the subject up and i
>> would think it would be such a painful experience for anyone to have to
>> witness this. Have any of you heard that there (used to be at least) this
>> custom?
>>
>> Susan Vargas Murphy
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2020, at 8:29 AM, 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've recently had to deal with my father's bones being placed in an
>> ossuary.
>>
>> My father passed away in 1987 and the cemetery had placed him on the list
>> to exhume back in 2017. Instead of his bones to be placed in a mass grave
>> of bones, I had the option to have him placed in a n ossuary in the same
>> cemetery. There was a fee.
>>
>> I have provided a link to the image from facebook when it was being
>> blessed by the parish priest. Just copy and paste it in your browser.
>>
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/matrizdascapelas.paroquia/photos/a.890467641120771/1110441779123355/?type=3
>>
>> Thanks
>> Monica
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 10:46:26 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Repost for Anthony Silver, thecoloursilver.82 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> Anthony said:
>>> << is the Ossuary a building ?>>
>>>
>>> It depends. Try Google (or your favorite search engine).
>>> Here's Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossuary
>>> Here's a general Google search (you might want to click on the Images
>>> tab):
>>> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d=ossuary
>>>
>>> The only one I saw in the Azores was the size of a dog house. So in that
>>> case, I saw a little concrete building. Maybe someone else has seen one in
>>> another freguesia. When I've gone to the Azores, I'm in the archives. I
>>> don't go to the cemeteries, as I know my ancestors are no longer in marked
>>> graves.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary

['Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

I’m sorry too! He’s 83 now, so a sorrow that just doesn’t go away :(
Susan 

> On Jan 16, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> 
> I would think *most* people would be just bones? There are always exceptions. 
> So sorry your cousin saw that.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 11:10 AM Maria Lima  wrote:
>> Susan, thanks for sharing this- very moving.  I can’t imagine...
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 16, 2020, at 1:01 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Thank you Monica for the image.
>>> 
>>> I saw the one at Santa Catarina church in Castelo Branco and it was more 
>>> like what Cheri said. like a long big dog house maybe.
>>> 
>>> Along this subject I had a memory of one of my mother’s first cousins 
>>> telling us when he came to this country (after the volcanic eruption on 
>>> Faial) that he witnessed his grandmothers bones being exhumed. He told me 
>>> this in the 1960s and I recently visited him and asked him about it (I 
>>> thought it was my great grandmother but turns out it was on his mother’s 
>>> side). I felt so bad because he started to cry because he saw her red hair 
>>> and she was recognizable to him. His wife seemed to indicate that a family 
>>> member had to be present. I was so sorry I had brought the subject up and i 
>>> would think it would be such a painful experience for anyone to have to 
>>> witness this. Have any of you heard that there (used to be at least) this 
>>> custom?
>>> 
>>> Susan Vargas Murphy   
>>> 
> On Jan 16, 2020, at 8:29 AM, 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
 
 Hello, 
 
 I've recently had to deal with my father's bones being placed in an 
 ossuary.
 
 My father passed away in 1987 and the cemetery had placed him on the list 
 to exhume back in 2017. Instead of his bones to be placed in a mass grave 
 of bones, I had the option to have him placed in a n ossuary in the same 
 cemetery. There was a fee.
 
 I have provided a link to the image from facebook when it was being 
 blessed by the parish priest. Just copy and paste it in your browser.
 
 https://www.facebook.com/matrizdascapelas.paroquia/photos/a.890467641120771/1110441779123355/?type=3
 
 Thanks
 Monica
 
> On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 10:46:26 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
> Repost for Anthony Silver, thecoloursilver.82 at gmail.com 
> 
> Anthony said:
> << is the Ossuary a building ?>>
> 
> It depends. Try Google (or your favorite search engine).
> Here's Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossuary
> Here's a general Google search (you might want to click on the Images 
> tab):
> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d=ossuary
> 
> The only one I saw in the Azores was the size of a dog house. So in that 
> case, I saw a little concrete building. Maybe someone else has seen one 
> in another freguesia. When I've gone to the Azores, I'm in the archives. 
> I don't go to the cemeteries, as I know my ancestors are no longer in 
> marked graves.
> 
> Hope this helps, 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary

[Sherry Phillips Swatek]

Hair lasts a long time.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 16, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> 
> I would think *most* people would be just bones? There are always exceptions. 
> So sorry your cousin saw that.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 11:10 AM Maria Lima  wrote:
>> Susan, thanks for sharing this- very moving.  I can’t imagine...
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 16, 2020, at 1:01 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Thank you Monica for the image.
>>> 
>>> I saw the one at Santa Catarina church in Castelo Branco and it was more 
>>> like what Cheri said. like a long big dog house maybe.
>>> 
>>> Along this subject I had a memory of one of my mother’s first cousins 
>>> telling us when he came to this country (after the volcanic eruption on 
>>> Faial) that he witnessed his grandmothers bones being exhumed. He told me 
>>> this in the 1960s and I recently visited him and asked him about it (I 
>>> thought it was my great grandmother but turns out it was on his mother’s 
>>> side). I felt so bad because he started to cry because he saw her red hair 
>>> and she was recognizable to him. His wife seemed to indicate that a family 
>>> member had to be present. I was so sorry I had brought the subject up and i 
>>> would think it would be such a painful experience for anyone to have to 
>>> witness this. Have any of you heard that there (used to be at least) this 
>>> custom?
>>> 
>>> Susan Vargas Murphy   
>>> 
> On Jan 16, 2020, at 8:29 AM, 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
 
 Hello, 
 
 I've recently had to deal with my father's bones being placed in an 
 ossuary.
 
 My father passed away in 1987 and the cemetery had placed him on the list 
 to exhume back in 2017. Instead of his bones to be placed in a mass grave 
 of bones, I had the option to have him placed in a n ossuary in the same 
 cemetery. There was a fee.
 
 I have provided a link to the image from facebook when it was being 
 blessed by the parish priest. Just copy and paste it in your browser.
 
 https://www.facebook.com/matrizdascapelas.paroquia/photos/a.890467641120771/1110441779123355/?type=3
 
 Thanks
 Monica
 
> On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 10:46:26 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
> Repost for Anthony Silver, thecoloursilver.82 at gmail.com 
> 
> Anthony said:
> << is the Ossuary a building ?>>
> 
> It depends. Try Google (or your favorite search engine).
> Here's Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossuary
> Here's a general Google search (you might want to click on the Images 
> tab):
> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d=ossuary
> 
> The only one I saw in the Azores was the size of a dog house. So in that 
> case, I saw a little concrete building. Maybe someone else has seen one 
> in another freguesia. When I've gone to the Azores, I'm in the archives. 
> I don't go to the cemeteries, as I know my ancestors are no longer in 
> marked graves.
> 
> Hope this helps, 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary

['Monica C' via Azores Genealogy]

Many have been exhumed without the family present; my dad for example. It 
may have been a rule or more likely that the family are still there that 
would be notified of the pending exhumation. Attendance may be mandatory in 
that instance. However, I know my father's family is still there and there 
was no family present Not even sure if they knew what was going on at that 
time.

It's one thing to experience a burial. I can't imagine experiencing an 
exhumation. Extremely heartbreaking.



On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 10:46:26 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:

> Repost for Anthony Silver, thecoloursilver.82 at gmail.com 
>
> Anthony said:
> << is the Ossuary a building ?>>
>
> It depends. Try Google (or your favorite search engine).
> Here's Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossuary
> Here's a general Google search (you might want to click on the Images tab):
> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d=ossuary
>
> The only one I saw in the Azores was the size of a dog house. So in that 
> case, I saw a little concrete building. Maybe someone else has seen one in 
> another freguesia. When I've gone to the Azores, I'm in the archives. I 
> don't go to the cemeteries, as I know my ancestors are no longer in marked 
> graves.
>
> Hope this helps, 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary

[Cheri Mello]

I would think *most* people would be just bones? There are always
exceptions. So sorry your cousin saw that.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 11:10 AM Maria Lima  wrote:

> Susan, thanks for sharing this- very moving.  I can’t imagine...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 16, 2020, at 1:01 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Thank you Monica for the image.
>
> I saw the one at Santa Catarina church in Castelo Branco and it was more
> like what Cheri said. like a long big dog house maybe.
>
> Along this subject I had a memory of one of my mother’s first cousins
> telling us when he came to this country (after the volcanic eruption on
> Faial) that he witnessed his grandmothers bones being exhumed. He told me
> this in the 1960s and I recently visited him and asked him about it (I
> thought it was my great grandmother but turns out it was on his mother’s
> side). I felt so bad because he started to cry because he saw her red hair
> and she was recognizable to him. His wife seemed to indicate that a family
> member had to be present. I was so sorry I had brought the subject up and i
> would think it would be such a painful experience for anyone to have to
> witness this. Have any of you heard that there (used to be at least) this
> custom?
>
> Susan Vargas Murphy
>
> On Jan 16, 2020, at 8:29 AM, 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Hello,
>
> I've recently had to deal with my father's bones being placed in an
> ossuary.
>
> My father passed away in 1987 and the cemetery had placed him on the list
> to exhume back in 2017. Instead of his bones to be placed in a mass grave
> of bones, I had the option to have him placed in a n ossuary in the same
> cemetery. There was a fee.
>
> I have provided a link to the image from facebook when it was being
> blessed by the parish priest. Just copy and paste it in your browser.
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/matrizdascapelas.paroquia/photos/a.890467641120771/1110441779123355/?type=3
>
> Thanks
> Monica
>
> On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 10:46:26 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Repost for Anthony Silver, thecoloursilver.82 at gmail.com
>>
>> Anthony said:
>> << is the Ossuary a building ?>>
>>
>> It depends. Try Google (or your favorite search engine).
>> Here's Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossuary
>> Here's a general Google search (you might want to click on the Images
>> tab):
>> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d=ossuary
>>
>> The only one I saw in the Azores was the size of a dog house. So in that
>> case, I saw a little concrete building. Maybe someone else has seen one in
>> another freguesia. When I've gone to the Azores, I'm in the archives. I
>> don't go to the cemeteries, as I know my ancestors are no longer in marked
>> graves.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary

[Maria Lima]

Susan, thanks for sharing this- very moving.  I can’t imagine...

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> On Jan 16, 2020, at 1:01 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thank you Monica for the image.
> 
> I saw the one at Santa Catarina church in Castelo Branco and it was more like 
> what Cheri said. like a long big dog house maybe.
> 
> Along this subject I had a memory of one of my mother’s first cousins telling 
> us when he came to this country (after the volcanic eruption on Faial) that 
> he witnessed his grandmothers bones being exhumed. He told me this in the 
> 1960s and I recently visited him and asked him about it (I thought it was my 
> great grandmother but turns out it was on his mother’s side). I felt so bad 
> because he started to cry because he saw her red hair and she was 
> recognizable to him. His wife seemed to indicate that a family member had to 
> be present. I was so sorry I had brought the subject up and i would think it 
> would be such a painful experience for anyone to have to witness this. Have 
> any of you heard that there (used to be at least) this custom?
> 
> Susan Vargas Murphy   
> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2020, at 8:29 AM, 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hello, 
>> 
>> I've recently had to deal with my father's bones being placed in an ossuary.
>> 
>> My father passed away in 1987 and the cemetery had placed him on the list to 
>> exhume back in 2017. Instead of his bones to be placed in a mass grave of 
>> bones, I had the option to have him placed in a n ossuary in the same 
>> cemetery. There was a fee.
>> 
>> I have provided a link to the image from facebook when it was being blessed 
>> by the parish priest. Just copy and paste it in your browser.
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/matrizdascapelas.paroquia/photos/a.890467641120771/1110441779123355/?type=3
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Monica
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 10:46:26 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>> Repost for Anthony Silver, thecoloursilver.82 at gmail.com 
>>> 
>>> Anthony said:
>>> << is the Ossuary a building ?>>
>>> 
>>> It depends. Try Google (or your favorite search engine).
>>> Here's Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossuary
>>> Here's a general Google search (you might want to click on the Images tab):
>>> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d=ossuary
>>> 
>>> The only one I saw in the Azores was the size of a dog house. So in that 
>>> case, I saw a little concrete building. Maybe someone else has seen one in 
>>> another freguesia. When I've gone to the Azores, I'm in the archives. I 
>>> don't go to the cemeteries, as I know my ancestors are no longer in marked 
>>> graves.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps, 
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary

['Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

Thank you Monica for the image.

I saw the one at Santa Catarina church in Castelo Branco and it was more like 
what Cheri said. like a long big dog house maybe.

Along this subject I had a memory of one of my mother’s first cousins telling 
us when he came to this country (after the volcanic eruption on Faial) that he 
witnessed his grandmothers bones being exhumed. He told me this in the 1960s 
and I recently visited him and asked him about it (I thought it was my great 
grandmother but turns out it was on his mother’s side). I felt so bad because 
he started to cry because he saw her red hair and she was recognizable to him. 
His wife seemed to indicate that a family member had to be present. I was so 
sorry I had brought the subject up and i would think it would be such a painful 
experience for anyone to have to witness this. Have any of you heard that there 
(used to be at least) this custom?

Susan Vargas Murphy   

> On Jan 16, 2020, at 8:29 AM, 'Monica C' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> I've recently had to deal with my father's bones being placed in an ossuary.
> 
> My father passed away in 1987 and the cemetery had placed him on the list to 
> exhume back in 2017. Instead of his bones to be placed in a mass grave of 
> bones, I had the option to have him placed in a n ossuary in the same 
> cemetery. There was a fee.
> 
> I have provided a link to the image from facebook when it was being blessed 
> by the parish priest. Just copy and paste it in your browser.
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/matrizdascapelas.paroquia/photos/a.890467641120771/1110441779123355/?type=3
> 
> Thanks
> Monica
> 
>> On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 10:46:26 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>> Repost for Anthony Silver, thecoloursilver.82 at gmail.com 
>> 
>> Anthony said:
>> << is the Ossuary a building ?>>
>> 
>> It depends. Try Google (or your favorite search engine).
>> Here's Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossuary
>> Here's a general Google search (you might want to click on the Images tab):
>> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d=ossuary
>> 
>> The only one I saw in the Azores was the size of a dog house. So in that 
>> case, I saw a little concrete building. Maybe someone else has seen one in 
>> another freguesia. When I've gone to the Azores, I'm in the archives. I 
>> don't go to the cemeteries, as I know my ancestors are no longer in marked 
>> graves.
>> 
>> Hope this helps, 
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Do Couto name.

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Rob W,

I'd say the name would be medium in how common it is. It may be more common
in some areas than others though.
Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 8:29 AM Rob Whaite  wrote:

> Dear Cheri
>
> Thankyou very much for your assistance thus far and I really appreciate it.
>
> I would be interested to know whether Do Couto is a common name in
> Portugal?
>
> I am interested in doing a little more research, but if the name is fairly
> common it will be "Needle in the haystack" stuff.
>
> I have been very lucky so far but maybe I have come to to the end of it
> ,but you never know?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rob
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] looking for info on Annie Laurance wife of Joseph Simmons

[Eric AR Edgar]

Mary,

In Portuguese records you're likely looking for Jose Simao and Ana da
Gloria Lourenco

try this site for Pico   http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html

Eric Edgar

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:44 AM Mary  wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> My family has been looking for our ancestors and we have hit a little
> brick wall hoping someone will be able to help.
> We have been able to locate information about them in the states but cant
> seem to find any information on them in Azores, Some of
> the documents say there from PICO all documents say Azores but I feel kind
> of lost.
>
> Theses wonderful people is were i get lost once I get to Annie and Joseph
> in Azores I'm stuck.
>
> Annie Laurence ( also spelled Lawrence) born 1864 , married Joseph Simmons
> born 1863 whom both later immigrated to Gloucester Mass in 1882
> mother and father of Adaline Gloria Simmons born 1891 mother of George
> Stewart and George is the father of my mother Gloria Stewart
>
> Thank you in advance
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] looking for info on Annie Laurance wife of Joseph Simmons

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Mary,

The names in Portuguese are Anna Lourenço and Jose Simões or possibly Simas.

You can try running Jose Simões and then Jose Simas through the CITCEM-GHP
site married to an Anna Anybody. However, it only has 13 of the 16 parishes
of Pico: http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html

You also need to get their deaths, all censuses, obits, anything you can
find in the U.S. For a list of suggestions, try this:
http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/finding-your-portuguese/

Good luck,
Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:44 AM Mary  wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> My family has been looking for our ancestors and we have hit a little
> brick wall hoping someone will be able to help.
> We have been able to locate information about them in the states but cant
> seem to find any information on them in Azores, Some of
> the documents say there from PICO all documents say Azores but I feel kind
> of lost.
>
> Theses wonderful people is were i get lost once I get to Annie and Joseph
> in Azores I'm stuck.
>
> Annie Laurence ( also spelled Lawrence) born 1864 , married Joseph Simmons
> born 1863 whom both later immigrated to Gloucester Mass in 1882
> mother and father of Adaline Gloria Simmons born 1891 mother of George
> Stewart and George is the father of my mother Gloria Stewart
>
> Thank you in advance
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] looking for info on Annie Laurance wife of Joseph Simmons

[Mary]

Hi Everyone,

My family has been looking for our ancestors and we have hit a little brick 
wall hoping someone will be able to help.
We have been able to locate information about them in the states but cant 
seem to find any information on them in Azores, Some of
the documents say there from PICO all documents say Azores but I feel kind 
of lost.

Theses wonderful people is were i get lost once I get to Annie and Joseph 
in Azores I'm stuck.

Annie Laurence ( also spelled Lawrence) born 1864 , married Joseph Simmons 
born 1863 whom both later immigrated to Gloucester Mass in 1882
mother and father of Adaline Gloria Simmons born 1891 mother of George 
Stewart and George is the father of my mother Gloria Stewart

Thank you in advance 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary

['Monica C' via Azores Genealogy]

Yes Cheri it is.

Looking at yours, mine is much bigger. I believe that if a family member of 
my father wants to be in there, they can share the space with my dad. 
Perhaps that's why they make it a bit bigger.

Thanks for sharing.

Monica

On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 10:46:26 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:

> Repost for Anthony Silver, thecoloursilver.82 at gmail.com 
>
> Anthony said:
> << is the Ossuary a building ?>>
>
> It depends. Try Google (or your favorite search engine).
> Here's Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossuary
> Here's a general Google search (you might want to click on the Images tab):
> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d=ossuary
>
> The only one I saw in the Azores was the size of a dog house. So in that 
> case, I saw a little concrete building. Maybe someone else has seen one in 
> another freguesia. When I've gone to the Azores, I'm in the archives. I 
> don't go to the cemeteries, as I know my ancestors are no longer in marked 
> graves.
>
> Hope this helps, 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ossuary

['Monica C' via Azores Genealogy]

Hello, 

I've recently had to deal with my father's bones being placed in an ossuary.

My father passed away in 1987 and the cemetery had placed him on the list 
to exhume back in 2017. Instead of his bones to be placed in a mass grave 
of bones, I had the option to have him placed in a n ossuary in the same 
cemetery. There was a fee.

I have provided a link to the image from facebook when it was being blessed 
by the parish priest. Just copy and paste it in your browser.

https://www.facebook.com/matrizdascapelas.paroquia/photos/a.890467641120771/1110441779123355/?type=3

Thanks
Monica

On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 10:46:26 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Repost for Anthony Silver, thecoloursilver.82 at gmail.com 
>
> Anthony said:
> << is the Ossuary a building ?>>
>
> It depends. Try Google (or your favorite search engine).
> Here's Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossuary
> Here's a general Google search (you might want to click on the Images tab):
> https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d=ossuary
>
> The only one I saw in the Azores was the size of a dog house. So in that 
> case, I saw a little concrete building. Maybe someone else has seen one in 
> another freguesia. When I've gone to the Azores, I'm in the archives. I 
> don't go to the cemeteries, as I know my ancestors are no longer in marked 
> graves.
>
> Hope this helps, 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Do Couto name.

[Rob Whaite]

Dear Cheri

Thankyou very much for your assistance thus far and I really appreciate it.

I would be interested to know whether Do Couto is a common name in Portugal?

I am interested in doing a little more research, but if the name is fairly 
common it will be "Needle in the haystack" stuff.

I have been very lucky so far but maybe I have come to to the end of it 
,but you never know?

Thanks 

Rob


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Portugues song recordings

[Steve Peters]

Here is a link to all of the Azorean folk recordings made by Sydney Cowell. She 
was the wife of the important composer Henry Cowell. 

https://www.loc.gov/search/?fa=subject%3Asongs%2C+portuguese

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