Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage certificate.

[Rob Whaite]

Yes,right!! Cheri

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 3:05 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> The 2nd marriage on the page #1047, is what I am looking at, right?
>
> The groom is the son of Antonio Josephs and Mary Antonio. So over there it
> would be Antonio Jose and Maria Antonio. More likely she is Maria ___.
> It's 1868 and in that time period, women did not have surnames, so the
> groom may be taking his best guess as to what her "maiden name" may be.
> I've seen Antonio as a surname here or there.
>
> Joaquim as a surname does happen, but it's kinda like seeing the surname
> Antonio. Both are given names and for some reason, the family tacked on
> that given name as a surname to differentiate themselves.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 8:15 AM Rob Whaite  wrote:
>
>> Hi Cheri
>>
>> I attach another Australian Marriage certificate also from Victoria.
>>
>> The one I refer to is the marriage of Antonio Josephs and Eliza Smith in
>> 1868.
>>
>> I think his real surname was Joaquime as he was living in the same
>> general area as three of his cousins who all came out here together and
>> that was the name shown on the passenger list.
>>
>> When you look at the entries for the names of his parents I find it
>> strange that his mother's surname was the same as his father's christian
>> name?
>>
>> It appears to me that he made it all up as he went along in his attempt
>> to anglicize his surname?
>>
>> Any ideas would be appreciated
>>
>> Rob
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage certificate.

[Rob Whaite]

Thanks heaps Nancy

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 4:20 AM Nancy Couto  wrote:

> Dear Rob,
>
> I found a listing for Jose Antonio (b. before 1795) married to Antonia
> Maria on the Cabral Genealogies website. On this site people are listed
> last name first, with no punctuation after the surname. So these people are
> Antonio Jose married to Maria Antonia. The “Antonia” could be a typo or a
> misreading, or the name could have been spelled with an “a” at the end. I
> haven’t checked this out, but the owner of this website has proven to be
> reliable and her information comes from church records. The time frame
> could work out, since Antonio Josephs (the son) was 40 at the time of his
> marriage in 1868.
>
> http://www.cabralgenealogy.org/getperson.php?personID=I570=Cabral
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Nancy
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2020, at 4:00 AM, Rob Whaite  wrote:
>
> Hi Cheri
>
> I attach another Australian Marriage certificate also from Victoria.
>
> The one I refer to is the marriage of Antonio Josephs and Eliza Smith in
> 1868.
>
> I think his real surname was Joaquime as he was living in the same general
> area as three of his cousins who all came out here together and that was
> the name shown on the passenger list.
>
> When you look at the entries for the names of his parents I find it
> strange that his mother's surname was the same as his father's christian
> name?
>
> It appears to me that he made it all up as he went along in his attempt to
> anglicize his surname?
>
> Any ideas would be appreciated
>
> Rob
>
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