Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Fernandes Baleeiro (Surname unknown)

2014-08-13 Thread Albert Figueras
Thank you Doug and Luiznoia for your quick answers.

I'll have a look at the CCA website. 

Best regards,

Albert

El dimarts 12 d’agost de 2014 22:10:57 UTC+2, Doug da Rocha Holmes va 
escriure:

 No doubt Baleeiro (found in records also as Balieiro) came from being a 
 nickname, but it's also a real surname and usually from Graciosa.

 For some proof of my assertion it's a surname I take for example one 
 Agueda Baleeiro of Velas from the 1500s, whom I have tentatively connected 
 to one Pedro Goncalves Baleeiro, but just a hunch. We don't find women 
 using such a name as her alcunha, so must be her chosen surname.

 Searching for all instances of Baleeiro in my database, I did find a 
 Fernandes Baleeiro on Terceira in the 1600s.
 I'm writing as my database is searching. Now I find I actually have a 
 Fernandes Baleeiro from Graciosa in the 1600s which could be the parents or 
 cousins of Alberto's ancestor.

 OK, searching is done and I have 72 people by this surname from Graciosa, 
 Pico, Terceira, and Sao Jorge. I have none from any other islands, but that 
 means nothing because if they are not connected to Pico or Terceira or part 
 of a family that I have entered for some other reason, I simply skip them 
 and move onto a record that interests me. These named Baleeiro are from the 
 early 1500s to the 1800s, so it's an old name. Another woman was Catarina 
 Baleeiro.

 I found many Fernandes Baleeiro from Graciosa, so have little doubt this 
 is Albert's ancestral connection. I know there are many Graciosa 
 researchers on this list and so a decent chance they will be willing to 
 share information.

 I will give you one which you can keep in mind for the future once you 
 find out the other necessary details that you must have to progress in your 
 research.

 Manuel Fernandes Baleeiro was a nobleman (Fidalgo da Casa Real) and native 
 of Santa Cruz on Graciosa Island. My note has him living in 1720 and I have 
 estimated he was born in about 1685. Since he was a noble, there will be 
 records from the King of Portugal and available from the Torre do Tombo is 
 Lisboa. His father by the same name was also a nobleman as was his 
 grandfather. Whether your family ties into this noble branch, who knows? 
 But you can have some fun tracing them.

 Doug da Rocha Holmes
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   Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Fernandes Baleeiro (Surname
 unknown)
 From: luiznoia . nobla...@gmail.com javascript:
 Date: Tue, August 12, 2014 11:10 am
 To: Azores Genealogy azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:

 I'm thinking it's likely a Jose or Joao etc, Fernandes, Baleeiro.

 His alcunha or even occupation as a whaler. 

 You can find the Baleerio in Bahia records, but not until the 1890s. 

 Maybe some background on where the information came from would help here. 


 Eric Edgar


 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:46 AM, pi...@dholmes.com javascript: wrote:

 Hello Albert,

 Fernandes is a surname. Maybe his name was Fernando?

 Or maybe you are missing his given name and Fernandes Baleeiro is the 
 compound surname.

 Your information about him coming from Graciosa matches what I know about 
 people named Baleeiro. They are found elsewhere in small numbers, so can 
 easily be found passing through Faial, Pico Terceira, Sao Jorge, etc.

 No need to travel to Faial for research when they put those records 
 online this past year or so.
 The government site is called CCA and it's quoted all the time, nearly 
 every day on this list. Look through past messages for the URL.

 Unfortunately, your lack of more information is a huge barrier to making 
 further progress. I don't know this person. It seems to me you will have to 
 find him in Bahia records to learn who he married, and most of all the 
 names of his parents. Then you work back in time from there.

 Doug da Rocha Holmes
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 Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants.
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   Original Message 
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Fernandes Baleeiro (Surname
 unknown)
 From: Albert Figueras albert@gmail.com javascript:
 Date: Tue, August 12, 2014 6:03 am
 To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:

 Dear all,

 We are trying to find some information on a man named Fernandes Baleeiro 
 from Faial and Graciosa. As far as we know, he emigrated from Faial to 
 Bahia (Brazil) in 1726.

 I'm aware that the information is scarce

[AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Fernandes Baleeiro (Surname unknown)

2014-08-12 Thread Albert Figueras
Dear all,

We are trying to find some information on a man named Fernandes Baleeiro 
from Faial and Graciosa. As far as we know, he emigrated from Faial to 
Bahia (Brazil) in 1726.

I'm aware that the information is scarce, but perhaps you could gide us on 
how to begin or where could we try to ask or search before going directly 
to Faial and spend som,e days there.

Thank you in advance.

Albert Figueras




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