Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation please

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Cheri,

I can make out that he is short in height, but I can't figure out the other 
characteristics after that since they are abbreviated. Can you make them out?

Barbara
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation please


  He's just plain Francisco Ignacio, age 14, from Pico, Candelaria.

  Cheri



  On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Barbara Mecklenburg 
 wrote:

I'm hoping this time I found my great great grandfather, Francisco Ignacio 
Serpa. He is the second from the bottom of the page. Could someone help me with 
the name on this since it is abbreviated? 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1859-1867/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1859-1867_item1/P9.html
   It is from May 20, 1859  which fits with when I found his arrival in Boston 
on the ship Azor arriving on June 11, 1859. 

Thanks for any help you can give.

Barbara
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  From: Rosemarie Capodicci 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation please


  Barbara, I agree with Cheri, I think the name is Francisco Thomaz Lopes 
not Serpa. Look at the Silva two lines above his name, that's the guys "S" and 
Francisco's doesn't look like that. 


  Rosemarie 
  rcap...@gmail.com
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  Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


  On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Barbara Mecklenburg 
 wrote:

I think I found my 2nd great grandfather, Francisco Ignacio Serpa but I 
need some help on translation. Here is the link 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859_item1/P58.html
 and I have attached a jpg of the page also. He is the last entry on the page. 
I can't make out the name of the town he is from in Fayal. I also can't make 
out the spelling of his middle name. It doesn't look like Ignacio. I found his 
arrival on the ship Azor arriving in Boston on June 11, 1859. That arrival says 
he is 22 but this passport says he is 27. I am not sure of his birth year, only 
that it is sometime between 1832 and 1840. 

Any help would be appreciated!

Barbara

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation please

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

It says on the ship passager list that he left from Faial but maybe he just 
left from there. I don't have anything else that says what island he was from, 
but his wife that he married in Monterey, CA was from Faial. 

Barbara


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  From: Cheri Mello 
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  Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation please


  Francisco Ignacio is such a common name though. You first said he is from 
Faial and this says Pico. Do you know which island for sure? I can't remember.

  Cheri



  On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Barbara Mecklenburg 
 wrote:

Cheri,

On both his marriage and death documents in Monterey, CA  he was also 
called Francisco Ignacio. His father had the same name and his mother was 
Mariana Ignacio. The age is about right. Every doc I found on him had a 
slightly different birth year. 

Thanks!
Barbara
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  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation please


  He's just plain Francisco Ignacio, age 14, from Pico, Candelaria.

  Cheri



  On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Barbara Mecklenburg 
 wrote:

I'm hoping this time I found my great great grandfather, Francisco 
Ignacio Serpa. He is the second from the bottom of the page. Could someone help 
me with the name on this since it is abbreviated? 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1859-1867/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1859-1867_item1/P9.html
   It is from May 20, 1859  which fits with when I found his arrival in Boston 
on the ship Azor arriving on June 11, 1859. 

Thanks for any help you can give.

Barbara
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  From: Rosemarie Capodicci 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation please


  Barbara, I agree with Cheri, I think the name is Francisco Thomaz 
Lopes not Serpa. Look at the Silva two lines above his name, that's the guys 
"S" and Francisco's doesn't look like that. 


  Rosemarie 
  rcap...@gmail.com
  Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
  Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


  On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Barbara Mecklenburg 
 wrote:

I think I found my 2nd great grandfather, Francisco Ignacio Serpa 
but I need some help on translation. Here is the link 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859_item1/P58.html
 and I have attached a jpg of the page also. He is the last entry on the page. 
I can't make out the name of the town he is from in Fayal. I also can't make 
out the spelling of his middle name. It doesn't look like Ignacio. I found his 
arrival on the ship Azor arriving in Boston on June 11, 1859. That arrival says 
he is 22 but this passport says he is 27. I am not sure of his birth year, only 
that it is sometime between 1832 and 1840. 

Any help would be appreciated!

Barbara

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation please

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Cheri,

On both his marriage and death documents in Monterey, CA  he was also called 
Francisco Ignacio. His father had the same name and his mother was Mariana 
Ignacio. The age is about right. Every doc I found on him had a slightly 
different birth year. 

Thanks!
Barbara
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation please


  He's just plain Francisco Ignacio, age 14, from Pico, Candelaria.

  Cheri



  On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Barbara Mecklenburg 
 wrote:

I'm hoping this time I found my great great grandfather, Francisco Ignacio 
Serpa. He is the second from the bottom of the page. Could someone help me with 
the name on this since it is abbreviated? 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1859-1867/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1859-1867_item1/P9.html
   It is from May 20, 1859  which fits with when I found his arrival in Boston 
on the ship Azor arriving on June 11, 1859. 

Thanks for any help you can give.

Barbara
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rosemarie Capodicci 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation please


  Barbara, I agree with Cheri, I think the name is Francisco Thomaz Lopes 
not Serpa. Look at the Silva two lines above his name, that's the guys "S" and 
Francisco's doesn't look like that. 


  Rosemarie 
  rcap...@gmail.com
  Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
  Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


  On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Barbara Mecklenburg 
 wrote:

I think I found my 2nd great grandfather, Francisco Ignacio Serpa but I 
need some help on translation. Here is the link 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859_item1/P58.html
 and I have attached a jpg of the page also. He is the last entry on the page. 
I can't make out the name of the town he is from in Fayal. I also can't make 
out the spelling of his middle name. It doesn't look like Ignacio. I found his 
arrival on the ship Azor arriving in Boston on June 11, 1859. That arrival says 
he is 22 but this passport says he is 27. I am not sure of his birth year, only 
that it is sometime between 1832 and 1840. 

Any help would be appreciated!

Barbara

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation please

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

I'm hoping this time I found my great great grandfather, Francisco Ignacio 
Serpa. He is the second from the bottom of the page. Could someone help me with 
the name on this since it is abbreviated? 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1859-1867/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1859-1867_item1/P9.html
   It is from May 20, 1859  which fits with when I found his arrival in Boston 
on the ship Azor arriving on June 11, 1859. 

Thanks for any help you can give.

Barbara
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rosemarie Capodicci 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation please


  Barbara, I agree with Cheri, I think the name is Francisco Thomaz Lopes not 
Serpa. Look at the Silva two lines above his name, that's the guys "S" and 
Francisco's doesn't look like that. 


  Rosemarie 
  rcap...@gmail.com
  Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
  Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


  On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Barbara Mecklenburg  
wrote:

I think I found my 2nd great grandfather, Francisco Ignacio Serpa but I 
need some help on translation. Here is the link 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859_item1/P58.html
 and I have attached a jpg of the page also. He is the last entry on the page. 
I can't make out the name of the town he is from in Fayal. I also can't make 
out the spelling of his middle name. It doesn't look like Ignacio. I found his 
arrival on the ship Azor arriving in Boston on June 11, 1859. That arrival says 
he is 22 but this passport says he is 27. I am not sure of his birth year, only 
that it is sometime between 1832 and 1840. 

Any help would be appreciated!

Barbara

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation please

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Thanks Cheri,

Guess I still have to keep looking. I thought the last name was Serpa instead 
of Lopes

Barbara
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation please


  The guy on the bottom of the page is Francisco Thomas Lopes, from Faial. 
Looks like this time period in this port of Horta they don't ask for the 
freguesia.



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation please

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Thanks Rosemarie - got to keep looking

~Barbara
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  From: Rosemarie Capodicci 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation please


  Barbara, I agree with Cheri, I think the name is Francisco Thomaz Lopes not 
Serpa. Look at the Silva two lines above his name, that's the guys "S" and 
Francisco's doesn't look like that. 


  Rosemarie 
  rcap...@gmail.com
  Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
  Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


  On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Barbara Mecklenburg  
wrote:

I think I found my 2nd great grandfather, Francisco Ignacio Serpa but I 
need some help on translation. Here is the link 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859_item1/P58.html
 and I have attached a jpg of the page also. He is the last entry on the page. 
I can't make out the name of the town he is from in Fayal. I also can't make 
out the spelling of his middle name. It doesn't look like Ignacio. I found his 
arrival on the ship Azor arriving in Boston on June 11, 1859. That arrival says 
he is 22 but this passport says he is 27. I am not sure of his birth year, only 
that it is sometime between 1832 and 1840. 

Any help would be appreciated!

Barbara

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Feliz Pascoa / Happy Easter thread

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Happy Easter everyone!
~Barbara Mecklenburg

On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
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> Feliz Pascoa~Happy Easter to all!!
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> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Emil  wrote:
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>> Feliz Pascoa! Happy Easter to everyone!
>>
>> Emil Silveira
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Seeking Cedros Faial Information / Patricia Butcher

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

My great grandfather was Jose Pereira Escobar, and changed his name to
Joseph (Joe) Perry when he got to the States. I don't have any info on his
siblings or parents - just know he came from Faial Azores in 1879 and lived
in Monterey, California for the last 26 years of his life. He had 10
children but I only know of 6. His wife was Maria Bettencourt changed to
Mary Perry in the US.

~Barbara

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:03 AM, luiznoia .  wrote:

> I have Escobar documents that I found working on a Quadros/Telles family
> project. All three of these familes settled in the Washington Township, (
> Mission San Jose, Centerville) of Alameda County, CA
>
>
> Since there is much confusion among the various da Rosa Escobar, da
> Silveira Escobar, da Rosa Pereira Escobar branches from Cedros and
> Ribeirinha, I've spent a lot of time sorting them out. This NEPS entry is
> the family of Henry .
>
>
> Anyone else working on Escobar, that settled in California?
>
> *António Da Rosa
> 
>  de
> Escobar
> *
>
>- Trabalhador/Lavrador
>- Nascido a 23 de Março de 1846 - Freguesia de Cedros
>- Baptizado a 29 de Março de 1846 - Igreja Paroquial de Santa Barbara
>
> *Pais*
>
>- António Da Rosa de Escobar
>
> 
> *1822*
>- Rosa Cândida Clara de Escobar
>
> 
> *1823-*
>
>
>- Casado *(8 OUT 1874), Igreja Paroquial de Santa Barbara, *com
>-
>-  Maria Clara Da Conceição
>
> 
> *1857*,
>- Pais  António Da Rosa de Medeiros
>
> 
> *-   *Mariana Clara
>
> 
> *1826*
>-  tiveram
>   - Maria _
>   
> 
>*1875*
>   - António _
>   
> 
>   - José _
>   
> 
>   - Filomena _
>   
> 
>   - Ana _
>   
> 
>   - Maria _
>   
> 
>   - Manuel _
>   
> 
>*1887*
>   - Domingos _
>   
> 
>*1889*
>   - Francisco _
>   
> 
>   - Henrique _
>   
> 
>   - Agostinho _
>   
> 
>*1900*
>
>
>
>
> Eric Edgar
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:43 PM, 'jeanne lenhart' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Pat!
>>
>>
>>   On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 12:11 AM, Pat  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello Jeanne,
>> Yes, I am related to many of these Escobar families in California. I will
>> forward your email to Henry Escobar that is related to the ones you
>> mention. I met he and his wife, Maria Nazare a few months ago here in Las
>> Vegas where I have lived for many years. He is a third cousin  of mine. I
>> will write more to you privately.
>>
>> Patricia
>>
>> On Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 11:18:34 PM UTC-8, Jeanne L wrote:
>>
>> Hello Patricia Butcher,
>>
>> Do you still research da Rosa de Escobar family history?
>>
>> I have previously corresponded  with you.
>>
>> I will visit Faial this year  so I have been  re-reading e mails and
>> organizing history.
>>
>> In a 2002 e mail, you had mentioned a Henry Escobar living in California.
>>
>> My mother's cousin was Henry Escobar (born 1916) who,  in 1993 lived in
>> San Anselmo, CA.  He moved from there around 2000 to possibly San Rafael or
>> there abouts.)
>>
>> Henry's  father,  Joe Rosa Escobar, immigrated from Cascalho,  Cedros,
>> Faial  along with four siblings including his sister,( my maternal
>> Grandmother),  Ana Clara da Rosa de Escobar (born 1884).  Ana and  three
>> siblings settled in Taunton, MA  but Joe went to Califor

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Thanks! I found some possiblities
~Barbara
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  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:24 PM
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


  Barbara,

   

  Go here and look.  There are over 1000 entries for the ship Azor.  

   

  
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=bostonpl&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=ms_db&_F0005959=Azor&dbOnly=_F0005959%7C_F0005959_x&uidh=612

   

  “E”

  Barbara.

   


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Eric,

I did check the passports and found this one: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859_item1/P60.html
 . He is the last one on the list. 

~Barbara
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  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 4:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


  Barbara, 

  The ship Azor left out of Hora a few times around then . Check the passports 
from that end for him.

  Eric Edgar


  On Feb 10, 2015 2:15 PM, "Barbara Mecklenburg"  
wrote:

Cheri,

Thanks for all the info! I have a world membership on Ancestry.com by 
haven't been able to find anything. That is why I am trying other avenues. I 
looked at the Castle Garden and it didn't have anything - neither did the 
olivetreegenealogy.com. I was able to find (on a Portuguese site) the ship Name 
of Asor arriving in Boston, Mass on June 10, 1859 and Azor or Acor arriving on 
Aug 20, 1859 but no list of passengers. I will have to keep researching.

~Barbara  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


  Barbara,

  In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about 
1820-1890 (Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about 1890-1954).


  In Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records," at the end of 
the chapter titled "Customs Passenger Lists" (it's Chapter 3 in my book, 
published 1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what exists 
and what's missing.  For example, it says that Boston has copies or abstracts 
covering 22 Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277.  M277 is the National Archive 
roll number.  That film is indexed in M334.  It also mentions that 1848-1891 
(State Lists) are indexed in M265.  Other east coast ports (up in New England) 
are Baltimore, MD; Bristol & Warren, RI; Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; 
Nantucket, MA; New Bedford, MA; New Haven, CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this 
is Castle Garden; Ellis Island was NOT in existence); and Providence, RI.  
You'll have to go to your public library to check for the details on these 
ports.


  You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/
  I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this.  Don't know how good it 
is though.
  http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml


  You can search Ancestry too.  I don't believe they have every port 
though.  If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC has 
a subscription.



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with final brick wall please.

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Nancy,

When I first saw your email I thought, at last someone who knows about Joseph 
Victorino (Vitorino Jose)! But I guess it was a different one. From what I 
could find the one I am looking for was born Feb 25, 1832 in Angústias, Horta, 
Faial, Azores. His father was Vitorino Jose dos Reis and mother was Mariana 
Luisa Candida. He did settle in New Bedford. But my relatives say it was New 
Bedford, New Jersey. I haven't verified that yet.  He supposedly came over to 
America with his older brother, Antonio Victorino in 1859.

~Barbara
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  From: nancy jean baptiste 
  To: azores group 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 3:57 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with final brick wall please.


  For years I've tried to find my great grandfather, Jose Enos Vetorino, he 
used many names in his records in New Bedford.he said his father's name was 
Thome Oliveira...he also said Vieira, Enos and Bettencourt...the constant was 
his mothers name, Anna Joaquina and that he was born in Sao Jorge in 
1863I've searched all villages for 1863 and never saw him.the Horta 
passports opened the door for me once again.


  I found him, Jose Ignacio Victorino. I need some help identifying the ship he 
came on since it's abbreviated and I can't tell what it says.


  Horta Passports1876-1889page 0139he's # 571...the ship is 
"Nol?"...I'd like to find him on a ships listthe passports gave his village 
as Santo Amaro, Sao Jorge. I found his baptism.he was born in 1862His 
father is Thome de Oliveira and his mother, Anna Joaquinna de Betencurt!


  Thank you for any help with the ship name.


  Nancy Jean

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

I was looking for Antonio Victorino and his brother Joseph (or Vitorino Jose)

Where did you find it on Ancestry.com? I have had no luck finding the Ship Azor 
(or Asor or Acor)

~Barbara
  - Original Message - 
  From: "E" Sharp 
  To: azores 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 4:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


  I found the ship Azor on Ancestry with passengers listed.  What is the name 
you are looking for?


  "E"


  On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 3:16 PM, luiznoia .  wrote:

Barbara, 

The ship Azor left out of Hora a few times around then . Check the 
passports from that end for him.

Eric Edgar


On Feb 10, 2015 2:15 PM, "Barbara Mecklenburg"  
wrote:

  Cheri,

  Thanks for all the info! I have a world membership on Ancestry.com by 
haven't been able to find anything. That is why I am trying other avenues. I 
looked at the Castle Garden and it didn't have anything - neither did the 
olivetreegenealogy.com. I was able to find (on a Portuguese site) the ship Name 
of Asor arriving in Boston, Mass on June 10, 1859 and Azor or Acor arriving on 
Aug 20, 1859 but no list of passengers. I will have to keep researching.

  ~Barbara  
- Original Message - 
From: Cheri Mello 
To: Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


Barbara,

In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about 
1820-1890 (Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about 1890-1954).


In Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records," at the end of 
the chapter titled "Customs Passenger Lists" (it's Chapter 3 in my book, 
published 1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what exists 
and what's missing.  For example, it says that Boston has copies or abstracts 
covering 22 Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277.  M277 is the National Archive 
roll number.  That film is indexed in M334.  It also mentions that 1848-1891 
(State Lists) are indexed in M265.  Other east coast ports (up in New England) 
are Baltimore, MD; Bristol & Warren, RI; Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; 
Nantucket, MA; New Bedford, MA; New Haven, CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this 
is Castle Garden; Ellis Island was NOT in existence); and Providence, RI.  
You'll have to go to your public library to check for the details on these 
ports.


You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/
I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this.  Don't know how good 
it is though.
http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml


You can search Ancestry too.  I don't believe they have every port 
though.  If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC has 
a subscription.



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Cheri,

Thanks for all the info! I have a world membership on Ancestry.com by haven't 
been able to find anything. That is why I am trying other avenues. I looked at 
the Castle Garden and it didn't have anything - neither did the 
olivetreegenealogy.com. I was able to find (on a Portuguese site) the ship Name 
of Asor arriving in Boston, Mass on June 10, 1859 and Azor or Acor arriving on 
Aug 20, 1859 but no list of passengers. I will have to keep researching.

~Barbara  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


  Barbara,

  In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about 1820-1890 
(Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about 1890-1954).


  In Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records," at the end of the 
chapter titled "Customs Passenger Lists" (it's Chapter 3 in my book, published 
1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what exists and what's 
missing.  For example, it says that Boston has copies or abstracts covering 22 
Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277.  M277 is the National Archive roll number.  
That film is indexed in M334.  It also mentions that 1848-1891 (State Lists) 
are indexed in M265.  Other east coast ports (up in New England) are Baltimore, 
MD; Bristol & Warren, RI; Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; Nantucket, MA; New 
Bedford, MA; New Haven, CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this is Castle Garden; 
Ellis Island was NOT in existence); and Providence, RI.  You'll have to go to 
your public library to check for the details on these ports.


  You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/
  I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this.  Don't know how good it is 
though.
  http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml


  You can search Ancestry too.  I don't believe they have every port though.  
If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC has a 
subscription.



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Cheri,

I have looked at the passports and found my gr gr gr grandfather, Antonio 
Victorino in Horta in March 7, 1859. I am now trying to find his arrival in 
America. It looks like the ship is Asor and he arrived in (I think) Boston from 
family records. But supposedly his brother Joseph (VItorino Jose) arrived with 
him and I can't find him. So do you know if there is a passenger list for the 
ship Asor landing in America in 1859? This is the url for the passport I found: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859_item1/P60.html
 Antonio Victorino is the last entry on the page.

Thanks for any help! 

Barbara
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  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 10:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


  Barbara,


  The 3 ports for the Azores are Ponta Delgada (on Sao Miguel), Angra, and 
Horta.  Only Ponta Delgada and Horta are online.  Ponta Delgada doesn't go back 
to 1859.  I don't know about Angra.  You can access the passaportes here: 
http://tombo.pt/d/acores



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Is there a list somewhere of the ships from the Azores to America in 1859? And 
if so is there a list of passengers on the ships?

Barbara
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  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 10:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


  Al,


  Outbound or inbound?


  Outbound:  I believe Horta is the nearest port to Flores.  Your ancestor 
probably registered in Horta (although, if he wanted to get to America on the 
next boat, he could have made his way over to Angra on Terceira or Ponta 
Delgada on Sao Miguel).  Horta is not online at the CCA.  You'd have to hire 
Joao Ventura, the archivist to get it for you (heroi99 at yahoo.com).


  Inbound:  You'll have to check the port of New Bedford as well as the port of 
New York (the ship may have sailed to New York first and your ancestor may be 
counted there.  Then the boat when on to New Bedford where he got off.  Or the 
captain may have had the New York people counted in New York and the New 
Bedford people counted in New Bedford).  I'm not sure what lists exist for 1884 
in America.  The port in New York was called Castle Garden in 1884: 
http://www.castlegarden.org/  As for New Bedford, Michael Tepper's American 
Passegner Arrival Records, list this in Table 1 (at the back of Chapter 3):  
New Bedford, Ma:  Originals 1823-1899; Copies or Abstracts: 1826-1852 (gaps); 
State Dept. Transcripts: 1822, 1825-1827, 1830-1831.  There's a footnote: The 
Archives has an unmicrofilmed card index for New Bedford, 1875-1899.  Tepper's 
book was written in 1993, so something may have been done with that index by 
now.  By Archives, Tepper means the National Archive and Record Administration 
(NARA).  



  Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name change

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Eddie,

I have a great grandfather who was Jose (or Joseph) Azevedo Machado. He was 
born  Feb. 25, 1871 in Calheta, Sao Jorge island, Azores and died  Nov. 5, 1944 
in Gustine, Merced County, California, USA. He had an older brother named 
Manuel Azevedo Machado who also lived in Gustine. I couldn't find any Borbas in 
his relatives, just Silveirias and Texeiras. Do you think there might be a 
connection?

Barbara
  - Original Message - 
  From: Eddie Machado 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 12:04 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name change


  Hi,





  I have been researching my paternal side of my family "Machado" or in the 
Azores d'Azevedo Machado. I have found all the birth records for my great 
grandfather and his brothers and I have found 5 of the 9 in the united states. 
I have run into on the obit for my 2x great grandmother  Maria Borba in 1913 
that two of the sons may have taken either their mothers last name or their 
step fathers last name which in this case is the same "Borba". On another 
brother's obit in 1930 for Anton Machado it lists one of the brothers again as 
"Borba", but when I get to the final brother to pass Michael Machado the obit 
it lists the two brothers that were previously labeled "Borba" now as Machado. 
I have attached each of those obits to this post. In this case it is 
Jose/Joseph Borba/Machado and John Borba/Machado. How common is this? Makes it 
difficult to find people I must say.

















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[AZORES-Genealogy] Fw: help with interpretation of writing

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

I also could not make out the name of the ship either. His brother Joseph was 
supposed to have traveled with him along with 18 other Portugese men to New 
Bedford, New Jersey. Then Antonio went on around the Horn to Monerey, CA and 
settled in Point Lobos, CA as a whaler. Joseph stayed in New Bedford. (If 
anyone knows him I would love to learn more about him also)
~Barbara

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From: Barbara Mecklenburg 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 3:56 PM
Subject: help with interpretation of writing 


Could anyone help me with some of this handwriting and interpretation of words. 
It is a passport for my gr gr grandfather, Antonio Victorino. He is the last 
one on the page. I am having trouble making out the handwriting for the Sinaes 
(characteristics) - I get that he was short, and it looks like he had a head of 
hair, brown eyes, but the rest I can't make out. Can anyone help? The link is 
below, and he is the last one on the page. Thanks!
~Barbara

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859_item1/P60.html

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[AZORES-Genealogy] help with interpretation of writing

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Could anyone help me with some of this handwriting and interpretation of words. 
It is a passport for my gr gr grandfather, Antonio Victorino. He is the last 
one on the page. I am having trouble making out the handwriting for the Sinaes 
(characteristics) - I get that he was short, and it looks like he had a head of 
hair, brown eyes, but the rest I can't make out. Can anyone help? The link is 
below, and he is the last one on the page. Thanks!
~Barbara

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859_item1/P60.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Pereira Escobar and wife Maria

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Thanks. We see if I can contact them.
Barbara

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From: "Nancy Pinksaw" 

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Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 8:03 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Pereira Escobar and wife Maria


Hi Barbara,
I really can't be of much help.
When, I visited Faial, three years ago, I met an Escbar family, that runs a 
small mercado there.
The owner told me that her husband's, Escobar family owns a farm in 
Portsmouth, R.I.

Good luck
Nancy

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Pereira Escobar and wife Maria

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

I am new to this group. I have been looking for ancestors of my paternal great 
grandparents, Joe and Mary Perry of Monterey, California, and I have come to a 
dead end on info. Without their parents names and the village that they are 
from I can't find any info on their origins or ancestors in the Azores. 
Hopefully someone in this group is related or knows of someone who is. Here is 
the info I have so far from family bibles, photos, death certificates and the 
help of Rosemarie with the obits. and death record from the UPEC. 


Americanized name: Joe Perry

Portuguese Name: Jose Pereira Escobar from Fayal, Azores 

born Jan. 15, 1842 in Fayal?

died Jan 25, 1933 in Monterey, California

He may have had a brother or father or both named Antone Perry (probably 
Pereira). One was mentioned in his obit. and the other on his death certificate 
with unknown mother.

He lived in the peninsula area in California for 26 years and in the USA for 55 
or 65 years (depending on what record you go by), so it is possible that he 
first arrived on the East Coast. He sent for his wife after he was established 
in California. I suspect it was an arranged marriage and they did not marry 
till she arrived in California around 1885, because she was 18 years younger 
than him and he arrived in the states when she was only 8 years old. The story 
we were told when we were young was that he worked his way over from the Azores 
to the States in a cattle boat. (I have no documentation of this.) He owned 
their home in Monterey at 198 Park Avenue and had cattle and was well know in 
Monterey. When he was young he had red hair and the story in the family goes 
that his father beat him because he had red hair instead of black. 


Americanized name: Mary Perry

Portuguese Name: Maria Margaret (Bettencourt) Escobar

born Sept. 18, 1860 in Azores or Portugal

died Oct. 22, 1948 in Monterey, California

I have seen her maiden name spelled Bitcart, Bitencurt, Betencourt, or 
Bettencourt. Her obituary said that she was a resident of the Peninsula for 50 
years and her death certificate said she lived in the country for 50 years. Her 
death certificate has her father as Mr. Bitcart and unknown mother. I have 
photos of both her and her husband but the only other info I have is from 
Ancestry.com that they lived in Monterey. 


They had 6 children:

1. Joseph Stanley Perry - b. Sept 8, 1889 in Coyote, California (south of San 
Jose and north of Morgan Hill) He died Apr. 6, 1964 in King City, California. 
He married Clara Evelyn Machado. He was my grandfather.

2. Anthony Thomas Perry - b. Aug 1, 1991 in Gilroy, California and died Dec 3, 
1949 in Monterey, California. He married Catherine Marcella Grimes.

3. Manuel Joseph Perry - b. June 5, 1894 in Los Osos, California and died Dec 
22, 1968 in San Luis Obispo, California. He married Mary Olivia Gularte.

4. Florence (Flora) M. Perry - b. Apr 8, 1900 in (probably Monterey), 
California and died Sept 17, 1994 in Gustine, California. She was married to 
Joe S. Silva. 

5. Stella M Perry - b. Sept 5, 1903 in (probably Monterey), California and died 
June 14, 1973 in San Francisco, California. She was married to James Augusta 
Seyferth. 

6. Frances Perry - b. about 1907 in Monterey, California and died sometime 
after 1948 probably in San Francisco, California. She was married to Richard 
O'Connor. 

I hope someone out there is related and can give me some more info to go on.

Thanks everyone!

Barbara Mecklenburg


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA Site

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Try clearing your history, cookies and cache in your browser. Did you try a 
different browser? Maybe you need an update on your browser? Check out this 
article that explains how to clear your cache, history and cookies. 
https://kb.iu.edu/d/ahic
Hope that helps

Barbara

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  Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 3:43 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA Site


  Anyone have any suggestions? I have no problem with other internet sites, so 
I know it is not my connection. I tried turning off my wireless and cannot 
access through 4g or 3g either. Is it possible that only a certain region 
cannot access? I am not a computer expert and I am stumped. I tried accessing 
by just clicking on a link in one of the messages too. Making me crazy!

  On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 9:52:35 AM UTC-7, Gerri Martin wrote:
Is anyone else having trouble with access? I have tried three different 
browsers, cleared my history, restarted my computer and can't get on.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores to California

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Diane,

In my research I have found that my ancestors came over to California for 
whaling and dairy and settled in the Monterey area.

Barbara
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  Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 2:43 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores to California


  I've enjoyed the thread about Hawaii, Massachusetts or Brazil.  Does anyone 
know the background of the migration to California.  There was a large 
concentration of Portuguese in Newcastle, CA where I grew up.  Family tradition 
says that my great-grandmother came from Flores in the early 1880's because her 
parents had died and something happened on the island and many people were 
leaving.  Other relatives came from Pico and Faial in the 1880's and 90's.  
Does anyone have background on how and why they came to California instead of 
the east coast?
  Thank you,
  Diane

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