Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Question re: Searching Passportes
Ah, that helps a great deal. I look forward to getting the hang of this...one day. Tell me, does anyone feel at risk being in the sites that say “not secure”? Thanks again, Josephine Sent from Jo's iPhone. > On Jul 11, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Headings on that passaporte for that time period: > DATE (year month day) - of registration > Name > Parents > Age > Status (married, single, widowed) > Native of (council & freguesia = kinda like a U.S. county and village) > Occupation > People that are accompanying > Pieces of luggage (I think) > Type of ship? It says Vapor > Name? Not sure of this > Next one is either the name of the navigation company or something > Destination: Sandwich (that's what they called the Hawaiian islands back then) > Observations: No one has any > > Here's an article on the Monarch from www.YourIslandRoutes.com by Melody > Lassalle. Since the Monarch arrived July 2 and was 57 days at sea, then it > had to leave May 6. http://www.yourislandroutes.com/ships/monarch.shtml > http://www.yourislandroutes.com/ships/monarch.shtml > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > >> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 1:12 PM jomig...@sbcglobal.net >> wrote: >> Then that answer brings up a couple more questions. Is his wife counted on >> the same line, or is she signed in with her own Passenger Number? I looked >> through several pages and never found her name, nor did I see her name >> mentioned on his line. I was able to make out all information up to >> Occupation, Destination, etc. Next, what does the date April 1st indicate? >> I had prior information that their ship Monarch's sailing date was March 28, >> 1882. >> >> Thank you so much for your help. >> -Josephine Miguel >> >>> On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 7:14:07 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote: >>> Yes, that’s the right date. April 1st 1882. Passenger # 369 he’s >>> travelling with his wife. Also note his brother Manuel is # 370, also >>> travelling with wife and son. >>> >>> >>> >>> Margaret >>> >>> >>> >>> From: jomi...@sbcglobal.net >>> Sent: July 10, 2019 9:59 PM >>> To: Azores Genealogy >>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Question re: Searching Passportes >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, I understand. I'm quite sure I located Jacinto Miguel on page >>> 0094, passenger number 309. Am I reading the date correctly, as 1882 April >>> 1 ?? >>> >>> On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 1:48:35 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> Josephine, >>> >>> >>> >>> A group of villages (freguesias) belong to a council (concelho - similar to >>> a U.S. County). >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 1:47 PM JOSEPHINE MIGUEL >>> wrote: >>> >>> Cheri, >>> >>> Got it...thank you. What does "council" mean? >>> >>> >>> >>> Josephine >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 05:25:51 PM PDT, Cheri Mello >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Try this: >>> https://sites.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/finding-your-portuguese/finding-your-portuguese-8.html >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 5:23 PM jomi...@sbcglobal.net >>> wrote: >>> >>> I have been doing a search in Passportes - Ponta Delgada. Is there >>> somewhere to find what the Headings at the top of each column say (in >>> English)? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Josephine Miguel >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azo...@goo
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Question re: Searching Passportes
Cheri,Got it...thank you. What does "council" mean? Josephine On Tuesday, July 9, 2019, 05:25:51 PM PDT, Cheri Mello wrote: Try this: https://sites.rootsweb.com/~azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/finding-your-portuguese/finding-your-portuguese-8.htmlCheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 5:23 PM jomig...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I have been doing a search in Passportes - Ponta Delgada. Is there somewhere to find what the Headings at the top of each column say (in English)? Thanks,Josephine Miguel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/b333fb7e-bfa8-4402-ad16-50bf520b6d7f%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_E%3DLat3S5aYaE94-PAG-iniGVSMH%3DQUyJ1yDY_8Nd3f2Q%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/1609946368.1009548.1562791544566%40mail.yahoo.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question re:Portuguese surname traditions, going back to my children's great-grandfather.
Hello Margaret, Thank you for sending the link. I will be checking into it. Josephine Sent from my iPad > On Jun 30, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Margaret Vicente > wrote: > > Hello Josephine, > > Naming practices and conventions varied in Portugal due to Historic and > Religous influences in Portugal. Perhaps some one will address your > question, but you may also find the explanation in the attached link, which > in my opinion, is not quite right but it does drive the idea home "A Guide to > Naming Practices". > > https://www.fbiic.gov/public/2008/nov/Naming_practice_guide_UK_2006.pdf > > m > >> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 1:45 PM JOSEPHINE MIGUEL >> wrote: >> Hello Cheri, >> I thank you for your replies to my son, Don Miguel, with his question >> regarding paternal great-grandparents. It shed valuable light and before >> now, unknown, information. Going forward from Passport Registrations and >> Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii, Jacintho Miguel de Medeiros and wife >> Antonia Hermina do Rego immigrated to Hawaii in1882. Through Ancestry.com I >> found a City Directory (1822-1989) listing Jacintho Miguel at gen store >> Laniwai nr Cooke (I believe his employment). All six of their children born >> in Hawaii, surname Miguel. >> Jachinto (another misspelling) Miguel on California Passenger List arriving >> San Francisco 24 May 1910; son Manuel Miguel on same Passenger List. Antoia >> Miguel De Medeiros on California Passenger List arriving San Francisco one >> week later, 31 May 1910. >> Confused with surname Miguel because of "de Medeiros" and "do Rego". Also, >> saw Antonia Rega listed, which I then thought was her maiden name. >> Thanks, Josephine Miguel >> >> On Saturday, June 29, 2019, 10:36:47 PM PDT, Cheri Mello >> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Josephine, >> To do research, you need a name, a date, and a place. You have a date of >> 1882 and a place of Hawaii, yet no name. You need to state what you know >> about the immigrant ancestor, including all names that you have found. We >> are unable to help you otherwise. >> Thanks, Cheri >> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 10:32 PM jomig...@sbcglobal.net >> wrote: >> Their great-grandfather sailed from the Azores under a name different from >> the name used after immigrating to Hawaii in 1882. >> Any input or comments to help give a clearer understanding would be greatly >> appreciated. >> >> -Josephine Miguel >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/8a365507-9981-4431-a9cc-6bcfa3563c34%40googlegroups.com. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_HOCFaSQ1Ou7yYZWEdhXi%3DKG1WNRm4KfznNwDxH%2BAZRGg%40mail.gmail.com. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/582981777.913456.1561913847604%40mail.yahoo.com. > > > -- > Margaret M Vicente > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAEVZo6LyWk7_-vDOcMhuPogYHg0p%2B6o7sqPD3G0_9aZzoh%3DDFA%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/411D6836-A2D5-48E2-B79D-6DBFF03C4622%40sbcglobal.net.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question re:Portuguese surname traditions, going back to my children's great-grandfather.
Hello Cheri,I thank you for your replies to my son, Don Miguel, with his question regarding paternal great-grandparents. It shed valuable light and before now, unknown, information. Going forward from Passport Registrations and Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii, Jacintho Miguel de Medeiros and wife Antonia Hermina do Rego immigrated to Hawaii in1882. Through Ancestry.com I found a City Directory (1822-1989) listing Jacintho Miguel at gen store Laniwai nr Cooke (I believe his employment). All six of their children born in Hawaii, surname Miguel.Jachinto (another misspelling) Miguel on California Passenger List arriving San Francisco 24 May 1910; son Manuel Miguel on same Passenger List. Antoia Miguel De Medeiros on California Passenger List arriving San Francisco one week later, 31 May 1910.Confused with surname Miguel because of "de Medeiros" and "do Rego". Also, saw Antonia Rega listed, which I then thought was her maiden name.Thanks, Josephine Miguel On Saturday, June 29, 2019, 10:36:47 PM PDT, Cheri Mello wrote: Hi Josephine,To do research, you need a name, a date, and a place. You have a date of 1882 and a place of Hawaii, yet no name. You need to state what you know about the immigrant ancestor, including all names that you have found. We are unable to help you otherwise.Thanks, Cheri On Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 10:32 PM jomig...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Their great-grandfather sailed from the Azores under a name different from the name used after immigrating to Hawaii in 1882. Any input or comments to help give a clearer understanding would be greatly appreciated. -Josephine Miguel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/8a365507-9981-4431-a9cc-6bcfa3563c34%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_HOCFaSQ1Ou7yYZWEdhXi%3DKG1WNRm4KfznNwDxH%2BAZRGg%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/582981777.913456.1561913847604%40mail.yahoo.com.
