[AZORES-Genealogy] Portugues song recordings

2020-01-15 Thread Janet Carminati
Hello all,

Linda posted this song over the holidays and I wanted to let this group 
know that my Aunt Elsie (Elzira Silva) is featured in this group.  I grew 
up with my aunt (she was my favorite babysitter) and she was a wonderful 
pianist but never mentioned these recordings!  Her parents were both from 
Faial and came to the US ending up in Oakland CA where they settled.

Does anyone have any other information as I would like to learn more or see 
if others are related to any of the other performers.  Apparently there 
were several other recordings as well.  

A Portuguese Christmas song, Oakland 1939: 
https://www.loc.gov/item/2017701593/?loclr=fbafc&fbclid=IwAR0B9xS2tW1pJvVfiGozh0PHPZOtWMD6VDGxbCyo6A4zKJceygz8mBuUp1E
 

Thanks very much,
Janet


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Obit margin help Joam Pimentel quemado

2019-07-18 Thread Janet Carminati
Thank you Cheri for the info.  First time i've seen someone from another 
island marry into the Pimentel family on Flores - i've read earlier posts 
about island hopping and interesting topic.

Janet

On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 10:40:21 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Baltazar is a native of the island of Corvo. The mom is from this same 
> freguesia (meaning the one Maria is baptized in).
>
> Roiz/Rois is an abbreviation for Rodrigues.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 7:37 PM Janet Carminati  > wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Can anyone make out where Balthezar Pimental is from in the below baptism 
>> record for his daughter Maria?  From his marriage record, his parent's or 
>> his wife's parents are from Lajedo Flores (Nossa Senhora dos Milagres).
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1675-1711/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1675-1711_item1/P123.html
>>
>> Also, is the last name Rois an abbreviation for Rodrigues - I saw this 
>> listed in one record, but wasn't sure if that was unusual.
>>
>> thank you,
>> Janet
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Obit margin help Joam Pimentel quemado

2019-07-16 Thread Janet Carminati
Hello all,

Can anyone make out where Balthezar Pimental is from in the below baptism 
record for his daughter Maria?  From his marriage record, his parent's or 
his wife's parents are from Lajedo Flores (Nossa Senhora dos Milagres).
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1675-1711/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1675-1711_item1/P123.html

Also, is the last name Rois an abbreviation for Rodrigues - I saw this 
listed in one record, but wasn't sure if that was unusual.

thank you,
Janet

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Obit margin help Joam Pimentel quemado

2019-07-15 Thread Janet Carminati
Thanks so much Bill for the links to the additional marriage records and 
translation of the family names - this is really helpful!  I will keep looking 
further back and see what I find.

- Janet

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Obit margin help Joam Pimentel quemado

2019-07-15 Thread Janet Carminati
Thank you all for the insights and help!

William - i believe below is the second marriage to Mariana de Freitas you are 
referring to.  I have not found his first marriage yet but believe they had at 
least one child, Antonio from other records I have come across.
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1767-1833/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1767-1833_item1/P98.html

Bill - I have found his birth record in S. Pedro of Ponte Delgado, Flores below 
and he was born Oct 31, 1739, so not near Palm Sunday.
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1727-1757/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1727-1757_item1/P54.html

His parents are Joao Pimentel and Maria de Almeide? (abbreviated to Almda) and 
their marriage record is:
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-C-1675-1801/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-C-1675-1801_item1/P90.html
I cannot make out the parent(s) listed for João - might end in George - can 
anyone decipher that name?

Thanks again,
Janet





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[AZORES-Genealogy] Obit margin help Joam Pimentel quemado

2019-07-14 Thread Janet Carminati
Hello all,
Could anyone assist with this Obit record - specifically what is written in the 
margin under Joam Pimentel?  His name in other records is usually Joam Pimentel 
quemado and quemado is never capitalized - does that signify anything?  
Additionally can someone confirm he was born in Flores, church of S Pedro (in 
agreement with other records)?  Finally who is Anna de Freitas mentioned 
towards the bottom?

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-O-1784-1802/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-O-1784-1802_item1/P103.html

Thank you for any help!
Janet

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help Costa Pimental families

2019-06-30 Thread Janet Carminati
Thank you Cheri and JR - really helpful as I work through the family names! 

I think I have additional records from Jeromymo’s grandfather Sebastiao Antonio 
Pimentel.  Would appreciate it if others can help confirm I have the names 
correct.


Death record Sebastiao Pimentel (bottom of pg 2)
Not sure the same person as I don’t see a wife or parent’s names listed.
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-O-1840-1848/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-O-1840-1848_item1/P68.html


Marriage record for Sebastiao and Anna da Trinidad (top of pg 1)
Date Mar 21, 26 or 27 (?) 1811
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1767-1833/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1767-1833_item1/P224.html
I believe the names are:
Sebastiao's parents - Joao Pimentel and Marianna de Frietas 
Anna's parents are Antonio Rosario ? and Maria da Trinidad


Baptism of Antonio - July 3 or 13, 1820
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1812-1825/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1812-1825_item1/P90.html
Father - Sebastiao Antonio Pimentel 
Mother - Anna da Trinidad
Paternal grandparents - Joao Pimental G? and Marianna de Freitas
Maternal grandparents - Antonio ? and Maria da Trinidad


Thank you all!
Janet

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help Costa Pimental families

2019-06-29 Thread Janet Carminati
Hello Mary and others,

I believe the below link is my Jerome although would appreciate help with the 
name in the margin as there appears to be a Y within the name.  He was born Nov 
(1?) in 1852 which is slightly off from his obit and gravestone.  Son of Manuel 
Sebastiao Pimentel and Maria de Rosario also in Fajãzinha.  I traced the family 
to that village from his nephews entry in the UPEC records.  He has a younger 
brother Vincent and older brother Manuel.  I’m still trying to determine the 
relation between Sylvester who I believe might be his uncle - I am having a 
hard time reading the handwriting of his records.

Sylvester, Jerome, Manuel & Francisco all went to wild horse valley 
(Napa/Sonoma border).  Manuel returned to the Azores after he was naturalized, 
married and had a son Antonio and then died in the Azores.  Antonio and his 
mother Maria de Gloria then immigrated to Sonoma the early 1900s.

Jerome (sp?) baptism record:
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1850-1860/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1850-1860_item1/P32.html

Thanks for any help anyone can offer!
Janet

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation help Costa Pimental families

2019-06-19 Thread Janet Carminati
Hello all,

Mary - I have determined that I have two Manuel Sebastiao Pimentels in my 
line and then one Sebastiao (Antonio?) Pimentel married to Anna de 
Trinidade.   My great great uncle was Manuel Sebastiao Pimentel (b Oct 22 
1848 d May 4 1904) married to Maria da Gloria Pimental.  Manuel's father 
was also Manuel Sebastiao Pimental (not sure about birth date, married to 
Maria de Rosario on Jan 9, 1845).  Do you have these in your line?

Could anyone can help decipher some of the names in the below records as I 
work to determine the relationships?

Death record Sebastiao Pimentel (bottom of pg 2)
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-O-1840-1848/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-O-1840-1848_item1/P68.html


Marriage record for Sebastiao Pimentel - this might not be correct as I 
cannot determine if "Pimentel" is listed (top of pg 1)
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1767-1833/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-C-1767-1833_item1/P224.html
I believe the names are:
Sebastiao's parents - Joao Pimental and ? Frietas 
Anna's parents are Antonio Rosario and Maria da Trinidad


Baptism of Antonio (?)
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1812-1825/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1812-1825_item1/P90.html
Father - Sebastiao Antonio Pimentel (?)
Mother - Anna da Trinidad
Paternal grandparents - Joao Pimental G? and Marianna de Freitas
Maternal grandparents - Antonio ? and Maria da Trinidad


Thank you all for the assistance!
Janet

On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 7:43:32 PM UTC-4, Mary Pimentel Wheeler wrote:
>
> Do you have any birth/death/marriage dates for your Jerome Sebastian 
> Pimentel?  I have several Sebastiao Pimentels in my tree, from Flores, and 
> many of their male children were named (first name) Sebastiao Pimentel.  
> I'm wondering if there is a connection somewhere?
>
> On Sunday, June 2, 2019 at 9:16:28 AM UTC-7, Janet Carminati wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I believe I have found the first baptism records of the Costa side of my 
>> family who settled in Napa in the late 1800's along with the Pimental 
>> family.  Several Costas married several Pimentals including my great great 
>> grandparents Jerome Sebastian Pimental and Conceicao Marie Costa.
>>
>> I am having a hard time reading the names (parent's, god parents, and 
>> confirming child name) - if anyone would be willing to help decipher these 
>> records I would very much appreciate it!
>>
>> The family was from Santa Cruz, Flores and the records that I believe 
>> might be the following family members are below:
>>
>> 3 siblings (Ermelinda, Joseph, John Costa) - the parents are Maria de 
>> Jesus Azevedo and ? Costa
>>
>> Ermelinda A Costa born July 18, 1867:
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1865-1870/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1865-1870_item1/P71.html
>>
>> Jose (Joseph) Francisco Costa born Nov 1869 (I do not have date):
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1865-1870/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1865-1870_item1/P162.html
>>
>> Joao (John) Costa born Oct 22 1871:
>> 2 possible Joao Costas:
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1870-1875/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1870-1875_item1/P38.html
>> or 
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1870-1875/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1870-1875_item1/P40.html
>>
>>
>>
>> The generation above include the following siblings: (Conceicao, Antone, 
>> Margarida and sister in law Maria Azevedo married to the unknown first name 
>> Costa husband)
>>
>> Conceicao Marie Costa born Nov 3 1861:
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1861-1865/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1861-1865_item1/P30.html
>>
>> The older siblings are in a different book and the handwriting is much 
>> more difficult to decipher.  Can anyone tell me what row to find the year 
>> and month so I might narrow in on these family members:
>> page 1 of the years 1842-1857 is at the below link:
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1842-1857/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1842-1857_item1/P3.html
>>
>> Antone Costa born 1855 (month not known)
>> Maria E Costa born 1850 (month not known)
>> Margarida Costa born 1848 (month not known)
>> Maria de Jesus Azevedo (sister in law) born Jan 15 1843 - not sure if 
>> also from Santa Cruz.
>>
>> Thank you all for your help.  So exciting that after about 5 years I 
>> might have traced part of the family back to the Azores - an

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help Costa Pimental families

2019-06-09 Thread Janet Carminati
Thanks to all that replied - very helpful as I learn more about how to do 
effective research!

Bill - Thank you very much  for the help with the translations - really 
appreciate it!

Mary - I do have lots of records for Jerome Sebastian Pimental as this was 
my great great grandfather.  His details are:
Birth Nov 1 1855 (Flores, but not sure what village) / death June 19 1929
Marriage to Aug 9 1877 to Conceicao Marie Costa - married in Napa CA, lived 
in Green Valley and Wild Horse Valley in Napa/Solano counties, eventually 
moved to Oakland

Potential siblings to Jerome are:
Frank J Pimental (1836 - ?) Married Maria E Costa (1850 - 1905)
Sylvester Pimental (1841 - 1903) Married to two different Maries (last name 
unknown) and later in life to Marie de Gloria Lorenzeo (birth/death 
unknown) - usually his name is spelled Pimentel.  Sylvester and Maria were 
witnesses for marriage of Jerome and Conceicao
Manuel Sebastian Pimental (1850 - 1912)
Vincent Sebastian Pimental (1858 - May 6, 1918) - oral family history that 
Vincent was Jerome's brother
Marianna Pimental (~1868 - 1950) married to Manual Levy and then to Antone 
Costa (1855 - 1928)

Let me know if we have any overlap in the Pimental family.

thank you all for the helpful information,
Janet




On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 4:59:24 AM UTC-4, William Seidler wrote:
>
> Below is my take on the parent and grandparent names for Ermalinda, José, 
> and two named João.  I see no indication that they are related to each 
> other or the family you seek.  The link you provided to a record for 
> "Conceição" has no Conceição that I can see on that page.  The closest I 
> see is an exposto (male foundling) named Cornelio.
>
>
> Hermalinda (sp?) Born 18 Jul 1867 and baptized on 21 July 1867
>
> Father: Francisco Jose de Machado, natural of Santo Antonio, Magdalena, 
> Island of Pico
>
> Mother: Maria de Jesus, natural of this parish. Parents married in this 
> parish where they live.
>
> Paternal grandparents: Manuel Gonçalves Ferreira and Maria? Eulalia?
>
> Maternal grandparents: João José da Costa and Maria de Jesus
>
>  
>
> José: Born 20 Nov 1869 and baptized on 25 Nov 1869
>
> Father: José Francisco Abreu 
>
> Mother: Rita Thomasia; both parents natural of this parish where they live 
> and were married.
>
> Paternal grandparents: Francisco Antonio Abreu and Maria de Jesus
>
> Maternal grandparents: José Noresio? de Simas and Maria Thomasia
>
>  
>
> 1st João: Born 21 Oct 1871 and baptized on 25 Oct 1871
>
> Father: José Caetano Simião
>
> Mother: Anna de Jesus Carvalho; both parents natural of this parish
>
> Paternal Grandparents: Manuel Caetano Simião and Anna Emilia
>
> Maternal Grandparents: João Furtado Carvalho and Ignacia de Jesus
>
>  
>
> 2nd João: Born 15 Nov 1871 and baptized on 19 Nov 1871.
>
> Father: Antonio Caetano Noia
>
> Mother: Rosa de Jesus; both parents natural of this parish
>
> Paternal grandparents: José Caetano Noia e Maria de Jesus
>
> Maternal grandparents: José Coelho Salvador and Margarida de Jesus
>
>
> I hope you find some help in this.  Hopefully following Cheri's advice you 
> can find a more definitive record connection.
>
>
> Bill Seidler
>
> On Sunday, June 2, 2019 at 11:23:40 AM UTC-7, Janet Carminati wrote:
>>
>> Hello Cheri, 
>> Thanks for the advice on how to work backwards. I don’t have any 
>> information on their marriages (except those that married in CA) so might 
>> be at a dead end but will keep at it!  Could you please let me know what 
>> the parent and grandparents names are in the 3 records as I can’t make them 
>> out?   
>> Thanks again, 
>> Janet
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help Costa Pimental families

2019-06-02 Thread Janet Carminati
Hello Cheri,
Thanks for the advice on how to work backwards. I don’t have any information on 
their marriages (except those that married in CA) so might be at a dead end but 
will keep at it!  Could you please let me know what the parent and grandparents 
names are in the 3 records as I can’t make them out?  
Thanks again,
Janet

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help Costa Pimental families

2019-06-02 Thread Janet Carminati
Hello,

I believe I have found the first baptism records of the Costa side of my 
family who settled in Napa in the late 1800's along with the Pimental 
family.  Several Costas married several Pimentals including my great great 
grandparents Jerome Sebastian Pimental and Conceicao Marie Costa.

I am having a hard time reading the names (parent's, god parents, and 
confirming child name) - if anyone would be willing to help decipher these 
records I would very much appreciate it!

The family was from Santa Cruz, Flores and the records that I believe might 
be the following family members are below:

3 siblings (Ermelinda, Joseph, John Costa) - the parents are Maria de Jesus 
Azevedo and ? Costa

Ermelinda A Costa born July 18, 1867:
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1865-1870/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1865-1870_item1/P71.html

Jose (Joseph) Francisco Costa born Nov 1869 (I do not have date):
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1865-1870/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1865-1870_item1/P162.html

Joao (John) Costa born Oct 22 1871:
2 possible Joao Costas:
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1870-1875/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1870-1875_item1/P38.html
or 
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1870-1875/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1870-1875_item1/P40.html



The generation above include the following siblings: (Conceicao, Antone, 
Margarida and sister in law Maria Azevedo married to the unknown first name 
Costa husband)

Conceicao Marie Costa born Nov 3 1861:
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1861-1865/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1861-1865_item1/P30.html

The older siblings are in a different book and the handwriting is much more 
difficult to decipher.  Can anyone tell me what row to find the year and 
month so I might narrow in on these family members:
page 1 of the years 1842-1857 is at the below link:
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1842-1857/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1842-1857_item1/P3.html

Antone Costa born 1855 (month not known)
Maria E Costa born 1850 (month not known)
Margarida Costa born 1848 (month not known)
Maria de Jesus Azevedo (sister in law) born Jan 15 1843 - not sure if also 
from Santa Cruz.

Thank you all for your help.  So exciting that after about 5 years I might 
have traced part of the family back to the Azores - and thanks to the UPEC 
records which are the only documents I've found listing the town which 
helped narrow my search!

Regards,
Janet Carminati 


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Last Week of Family Tree DNA's Holiday Sale

2015-12-30 Thread Janet Carminati
Hello Cheri,

I am interested in a coupon if you still have them.  Can you also advise on 
which test would be best?  My mother's side of the family is from the 
Azores originally.

thanks very much for your help!
Janet

On Monday, December 28, 2015 at 1:25:04 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes groups)
>
> This is the last week for the Mystery Rewards (coupon codes). They expire 
> January 3, 2016 at 11:59 pm CST. Please do not wait until the last minute 
> to request a coupon code from me. 
>
> EXISTING FTDNA Customers:
> Please log into your FTDNA page and look for the Mystery Reward icon and 
> click the word VIEW. Next screen, click on the gift box. If it is something 
> you won't be using (that is $10 or more), please "gift" it to me by 
> clicking on the "Gift to a Friend" button on the next screen. Just type in 
> your name and my email address: gfscherim at gmail.com (replace with the 
> @ symbol).
>
> (Doing this generates an email to me with the type of DNA test and coupon 
> amount in the subject line. It saves me a lot of time in redistributing the 
> coupons to others).
>
> NOTE: We are getting enough $10, $15, and $20 off, etc, so if you get a 
> $5, no need to forward it.
>
> For Those NEW to DNA testing: Ask me for a coupon and order here:
> Azores: goo.gl/GCreTM
> Madeira: goo.gl/Hs2dv9
> Cape Verde: goo.gl/ggPa6p
>
> Transferring from Ancestry or 23 and Me (their v. 3 chip) - NO DISCOUNT: 
> goo.gl/mI4OEr
>
> Thanks!
> Cheri Mello
> Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
>

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