Hi Adrian,
Yes, I'm in Rio de Janeiro, RJ, Brazil, Rua Almirante Cochrane, 12 CEP
20550-040.
I also don't have a baptism record of Manoel Borges Pires nor Maria José da
Silva ,but I do have a death record of both.
Maybe they weren't born in Madeira Island, and maybe they were born in the
Azores instead, but José Borges Pires said they came from Madeira Island.
In fact, he (Jose Borges Pires) didn't said that their parents were born in
Madeira Island ! If they really lived there before coming to Brazil, or if
they just boarded on a ship in Madeira Island to go to Brazil, or even if
José Borges Pires didn't know properly where they came from, that I don't
know
My father once told me that only Manoel Borges Pires (Filho) remained in
Portugal. He also said that he didn't knew for sure, if the rest of Manoel
sons had descendants (excluding Carmen Borges Pires and, obviously, José
Borges Pires. Those, I know certainly, had children). Besides, he told me
that the sons of Manoel, whom came to Brazil, lived in Santa Tereza (a
district here, from Rio de Janeiro).
Furthermore, I don't have contact with none of the descendents from the 6
sons of Manoel. Only with some of José Borges Pires descendants.
Thank you for responding me. Moreover, I'd like to know if you have some
info on the parents from Manoel Borges Pires or Maria José da Silva. I have
some non official information which tells me that the parents of Maria José
da Silva were called Vicente Constantino da Silva and Maria Julia da Silva,
though I'm not sure.
I look foward to receiving news from you,
Jorge
2012/10/20 Adrian Martins adrianmartins1...@gmail.com
Hi Jorge,
Thank you for taking e time to write me to let me know of our ancestral
connection.
I just sat down to look at your msg and am happy to get this info.
My mother told me stories about having relatives in Brazil somewhere. She
mentioned that her mother (Maria Do Carmelo Borges Pires) used to write to
Raymunda and was invited to come live with them but Maria had declined for
whatever reason. In the meantime they stopped writing and lost touch. My
mother Maria Manuela Borges Pires Martins is now in her early 70's and is
doing well. Still remembers many things from way back when.
Where are you located? Are u in Rio? Are you in touch with other family
from the original descendants of the 6 children?
My family settled in Cambridge Ontario Canada. My grandmother Maria lived
with us for a long time before she passed away so I remember her well.
Do you have any baptismal records for Manuel Borges Pires or his wife
Maria Jose Da Silva? I cant seem to find them.
Also were they both born in Ilha da Madeira, Portugal? My mom doesn't
think that was correct...but doesn't know for sure.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Adrian Martins.
On Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:10:34 AM UTC-4, Jorge Costa Pires Filho
wrote:
Hi Adrian, My name is Jorge Costa Pires Filho.
Manoel Borges Pires (was born about 1848 in Ilha da Madeira, Portugal -
dead in oct, 3, 1902, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil ) and
Maria Jose da Silva (was born about 1852, in Ilha da Madeira, Portugal,
- dead in aug, 12 1913, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil ) both are in my Family
Tree.
They had six children:
Manoel Borges Pires (Filho) - was born before 1873
José Borges Pires - was born in 1873
Leopoldina Borges Pires - was born after 1884
Maria Borges Pires - was born after 1873
Raymunda Borges Pires - was born after 1874
Carmem Borges Pires - was born after 1885
My father is Jorge Costa Pires and my grandfather is Oscar Borges Pires.
The father of Oscar Borges Pires is José Borges Pires, brother of Manoel
Borges Pires (Filho), father of Maria, who is in this document of baptism...
Em quinta-feira, 4 de outubro de 2012 13h38min02s UTC-3, Adrian Martins
escreveu:
Thank you kindly.
Adrian.
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