Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism of a Correia in Vila Franca (Sao Miguel)

[Walt Teixeira]

I agree with the name although I feel that it clearly shows his name as Serp
*e* even though the name is normally Serp*a*.  I wonder if Serpe was a less 
than common name or that the scribe just couldn't spell the name 
correctly.  This type of recording is a real puzzler as how to document the 
name.???  Your call - have fun!!!

On Sunday, December 25, 2016 at 3:26:03 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Here's another. Bad bleed-through. Margarida on the right. Godfather 4th 
> or 5th line from the bottom  Jacome Francisco Serpa???:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786_item1/P308.html
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 3:11 PM, linda > 
> wrote:
>
>> Medeyros Pachequo, I think.
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Church records in Boston Archdiocese Announcement

[Walt Teixeira]

Joanne,

Why do you say that some LDS folks might have spooked the parishes into 
locking down their information?  The LDS Church only keeps records for 
genealogy purposes and preservation so that they are nor lost or ruined.  
They honor each and every commitment that they make with the donor and that 
is why some of the records available on microfilm are not available online 
because the licensing agreement did not specifically allow for that.  There 
are a lot of records that we would not have available to us if it were not 
for the LDS folks.

On Saturday, January 7, 2017 at 8:37:14 AM UTC-6, Joanne wrote:
>
> Fall River should take Boston’s lead eventually but they will need to be 
> convinced that this is a greater good. My sense from speaking personally 
> with some of the priests is that they want to be sure their records are 
> being used by the families involved for genealogy purposes only. They take 
> very seriously their canonical duties to protect the people’s information 
> they are given. Unfortunately some LDS folks might have spooked the 
> parishes into locking down their information. With Boston going forward 
> with this Fall River will be watching and waiting to see what happens.
>
> Providence, however, will be another story altogether…
>
> Just my two cents.
> Joanne Grota Mercier
>
> On January 7, 2017 at 9:05:35 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel (
> rickre...@gmail.com ) wrote:
>
> *I just got this announcement and for anyone who is looking in the Boston 
> Archdiocese this could be good news. Now if the Fall River Diocese would 
> follow.*
>
>  
>
> *On Tuesday, January 10 @ 11 a.m. EST, NEHGS will be hosting a press 
> conference to announce a historic collaboration with the Boston 
> Archdiocese. Check back here on Tuesday morning around 10:30 a.m. for a 
> link to watch the conference via live stream. More to come on this exciting 
> announcement! #CatholicRecordsNEHGS 
> *
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
>  
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>  
>
> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and 
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The meaning of Era ut Supra

[Walt Teixeira]

When I started doing genealogy in the Azores, I contacted a Catholic Priest 
on Graciosa about getting a copy of my grandmother's baptismal record.  
Upon receiving it and working through the translation, I wrote back to him 
asking about the phrase Era ut Supra.  He said it means:  "what is stated 
above is true" (like a certification). 

On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 10:46:49 PM UTC-5, Azores Genealogy group wrote:
>
> Looking for the meaning of Era ut supra. I believe it might be Latin for 
> "true and correct" but not sure.  The words commonly appear on baptismal 
> and marriage entries. Anyone like to comment?
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Ventura

[Walt Teixeira]

Thanks Cheri.  It has been going on for a number of months.

On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 2:27:43 PM UTC-5, Walt Teixeira wrote:
>
> Has anyone heard from Joao Ventura (hero...@yahoo.com) recently?  I have 
> sent him a number of emails for the translation of documents over the last 
> few months and have not received a reply.  Does anyone know if he is still 
> doing this or if he has changed email address?  Anyone knowing anything 
> recent about him, please reply.  Thanks
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Microfilms discontinued

[Walt Teixeira]

My understanding is that after August 31st there will be no more shipping 
of microfilms - period.  Records that have already been digitized will be 
available at the Family History Centers - on line.  Those that have not 
been digitized are expected to be done by 2020 when everything the church 
has is scheduled to be digitized (all records which were on microfilm).  It 
is interesting to note that the LDS church has some records that the 
Portuguese archives do not (some missing years - Graciosa for one that I 
know of).

Indexing is another story.  Anyone can volunteer to be an indexer.  I have 
indexed a number of Portuguese records, mostly from Brazil.  If there are 
more indexers of Portuguese records, I'm sure that they will continue to 
put up more Portuguese records in the queue.  That's how to get it moving - 
volunteer on FamilySearch.org and look for indexing.  You then pick the 
project that you want to participate in of those available and you do it at 
your own pace and in your spare time.

Walt Teixeira
Graciosa and continental Portugal

On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 1:38:40 PM UTC-5, Pat Frade wrote:
>
> Please refer to this article: the microfilms are being discontinued.
>
>  
>
>
> https://familysearch.org/blog/en/microfilm-distribution-discontinued-august-31-2017/
>  
>
>  
>
> From my last post a few months ago, I think Rosemarie said that the 
> microfilms are on disc. I think they need to be index so they can be put 
> online and *searchable* (that is the key word).
>
>  
>
> I would ask Cheri or Rosemarie to call the SLC Family History Library and 
> ask the Portuguese Librarian to set up a time at the conference where we 
> could meet together (maybe right after dinner) where questions can be 
> asked/answered.
>
>  
>
> My understanding is very basic – but I am really pushing for these records 
> to be indexed. What that mean – and please verify this with the librarian – 
> we wouldn’t necessarily need to learn to read the old Portuguese script. We 
> could type in a name, and the image will come up along with the 
> “transcribe” information. I just looked up a name in FamilySearch – the 
> name was Helen Evans, residence in California, and the top result was a 
> census record, on the right side is the original document, and on the left 
> side is the transcribe infor. On Ancestry you get the transcribed 
> information, or it may look for a name in a document (like a newspaper).
>
>  
>
> The documents would have to be indexed (transcribed) by a person, I have 
> seen it done. There is an army of people who are indexing records – my 
> neighbor was working on the WWII veterans records. We just need to know IF 
> the Azorean records have been indexed, if not where are they in the queue 
> and if they are in the queue how many petitions would it take to move it 
> forward.
>
>  
>
> Let’s talk more at the conference.
>
>  
>
> *Pat Frade*
>
> Manuscript Cataloger
>
> 6741 Harold B. Lee Library
>
> Brigham Young University
>
> Provo, UT 84602
>
> 801-422-6730
>
> pat_...@byu.edu  
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>  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: sampaio family Ilha Graciosa

[Walt Teixeira]

Hello Tyler,
Praia is in the Freguesia of Sao Mateus.  I found Sampaio is extremely rare 
there.  I only found 1 reference to a Sampaio in the baptisms of 1885 and 3 
people that had Sampaio as part of the name between 1903-1911.  None of 
these 3 people had a Francisco associated with it and they were all 
prominent families with the wife being a Dona.  You might want to try the 
other freguesias - maybe he worked in Praia but lived in a neighboring 
freguesia.  I don't have information in the other freguesias of Graciosa.  
There is also a Praia Vitoria on Terceira and a Praia Formosa on Santa 
Maria.  Maybe he was from one of these places.  What time period are we 
talking about?

On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 10:46:55 AM UTC-6, tyler sousa wrote:
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> i am looking for any information about
> francisco sampaio who lived on IIha Graciosa
> i know that he was a blacksmith and lived in praia
> any help would be greatly appreciated
> thank you
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: General Question

[Walt Teixeira]

I know that FamilySearch also has Brazilian immigration/passport records.  
They recently sent me a couple of matches with information for relatives 
that had immigrated to Brazil that I didn't know anything about.

On Saturday, August 11, 2018 at 5:45:21 PM UTC-5, Bob wrote:
>
> Hi Group, so I have a general questions. I have family members from 
> Terceira, but they have travel back and forth to Brazil. Some of my 
> research has moved to Brazil now. So to my question, I have been using 
> Family Search. But the one village I am looking at is Rio de Janeiro. I 
> have not been able to find a death date for my 2x GGrandfather has not been 
> found in Terceira so I have move it to Brazil which I found a document that 
> showed he had passed away at the age of 42, which make sense which is the 
> year of his last child's birth. 1898-1899 for them. My question is this, 
> does Brazil have a web site to look for records. "Family Search only has 
> death Records for that village that goes up to 1890 and nothing past that, 
> or am I looking at this incorrectly? I have tried different ways and still 
> come up with nothing. I have found records for his wife which shows she 
> passed away in Terceira in 1919. I have tried and google Brazil and the 
> village and only come up with Family Search.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Bob Camacho
>
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>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searchable Azores church records on MyHeritage?

[Walt Teixeira]

Marylin is right.  I checked on the current policy for Family History 
Centers *today* at LDS FHC Support and they verified that certain records 
(in this case the Portuguese Catholic Church Records) have restrictions 
placed upon the Family History Library and their associated centers, by the 
licensing country or whoever owns the records, that the records are only 
available to members and not to the general public.  Unofficially, y'all 
will have to use the work around that you have been using.  Good luck.

On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 6:51:18 AM UTC-5, Marilyn Thompson wrote:
>
>  If I remember right, the restrictions are put on by the owners of the 
> records. The LDS church has been granted permission for its members to view 
> the records. Thus the need for an LDS login. 
>
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 12:32 AM Aaron Pereira  > wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I’m at FHC a few times a week and its still the same.  In order to access 
>> the Azorean records from FHC, you have to be a member of the LDS.  Like 
>> others have mentioned, I usually will ask a member to login using their 
>> account.  I posted a screen shot of the message received when trying to 
>> access the records as a non-member.  Its doesn’t hurt to keep checking 
>> though.  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: São Mateus da Praia, Graciosa 1840 baptism.

[Walt Teixeira]

I would agree with Cheri - Marianno.  A bit unusual but that is what it 
looks like.

On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 10:44:56 PM UTC-5, William Seidler wrote:
>
> I am hoping someone can make out the child''s name.  The bleed through 
> from the opposite page is too disruptive for me.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-B-1833-1841/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-B-1833-1841_item1/P123.html
>  (top 
> right)
>
> I can see that he is a son of my wife's ancestor Antonio Jose Cordeiro and 
> his second wife Maria Joaquina.  Paternal grandparents Manuel Jose Cordeiro 
> and Antonia and maternal of Francisco Nunes and Anna Maria.  He was born on 
> 4 Oct 1840 and baptized on the 11th of the same month.  I just can't settle 
> on the child's first name.
>
> Thank you,
> Bill Seidler
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Some help

[Walt Teixeira]

Gordon,

Take a look at Doug Holmes website of Portuguese Passenger Ship lists - 
http://www.dholmes.com/ships.html   Info is listed by ports, dates, ships, 
etc.  Hope this helps.

Walt

On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 1:27:50 PM UTC-5, gs...@centurylink.net wrote:
>
> What other ports of entry would someone come through if not Ellis Island? 
> I have searched Ellis Island for my grandfather Jesse Ferreira and have not 
> found him. There is a possibility of someone with like name (Ferrero which 
> was a misspelling of his name on a census document) leaving the Azores on a 
> New Zealand ship Admiral Sampson NZ bound for Port Antonio, Jamaica in 
> 1902. The date is a match but that is a long shot. I don’t know how to 
> proceed but would want to look for other US ports of disembarking. Anybody 
> have some suggestions? 
>
> Gordon

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name on baptism record

[Walt Teixeira]

I trust that everyone knows that Glz stands for Goncalves.

On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 11:13:04 AM UTC-6, JR wrote:
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>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1670-1705_item1/P83.html
>
> VFSM casamentos- Jan 24- 1697, Ignassio de Mello filho de Mel da Costa 
> alfaete e Ursulla Glz com Catharina da Silva filha de Joao da Silva e Clara 
> Roiz todos fraguesia desta matriz...
> Padrinhos, Antonio de Mello e Manoel Pachequo? 
>
> Sorry about those deleted posts.
>
> JR
>
> On Saturday, December 5, 2015 at 8:35:50 AM UTC-5, mnk wrote:
>>
>> Ignacio de Mello and Catharina da Silva are my 8th great grandparents. 
>> Their son Francisco de Mello was born Oct 9, 1713 in Matriz Vila Franca do 
>> Campo.
>> MNK 
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cunha records

[Walt Teixeira]

Looking through the Praia Graciosa baptism records for 1877-1889, the only 
one close is (I don't really think this is what you are looking for but 
figured I'd let you know what was there):
Alberto 8-Sep-83 
Parents: Antonio Felix da Cunha & Dona Felisida de Candida da Cunha



On Saturday, March 19, 2016 at 12:09:45 PM UTC-5, Helen Huckobey wrote:
>
> I've been searching for any records on Antonio Cunha  Alfred Cunha Albert 
> Cunha born 1886. All from Gracioso Azores.  I'd love to have my fathers 
> birth or baptismal records.  Alfredo or Alfred Cunha 
> Thank you 
> Helen Huckobey 
> Los Banos ca   
>
> Sent from my iPhone

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Arganil Portugal - Marriage Record for Domingos Fernandes & Catherina Dias

[Walt Teixeira]

 

Can someone please help me with a translation from 1696. I have a couple of 
names and a phrase that I am having trouble with. Link: 
http://pesquisa.auc.uc.pt/viewer?id=31779&FileID=29527 


Top right record For Domingos Fernandes and Catherina Dias of Nogueira. 
Here is what I have and need: Domingos _*surname*___ _*other words*___ 
de _*first name_*__   __*surname*__ natural of the village of Salaviza, and 
of Izabel Fernandes of this village with Catherina Dias, daughter of 
Domingos (Alvres - does this look right?), and his wife Maria Dias

Thank you in advance for your help.

Walt

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Arganil Portugal - Marriage Record for Domingos Fernandes & Catherina Dias

[Walt Teixeira]

Thank you Cheri for your help.  I think Bartolomeu's surname might be Solis 
but it could also be something else.  I'm waiting until I get a consensus 
until I make my final decision.  I'm also going to see if I can find her 
baptism or a sibling in Nogueira.  Thanks again,

On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 1:22:15 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Wow, I really like those scans from the mainland.
>
> I think it says Domingos Frz, filho (legitimate - might be abbreviated) de 
> Bartolomeu Something (I want to say Silveira, but I really don't think 
> that's right).
>
> I think you have the rest right.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?

[Walt Teixeira]

Rosemary - I don't know if it still this way or not, but a number of years 
ago I went to the SLC FHC to review records from Portugal (not sure if it 
was for the Azores or the Continent) and they were not present at the 
library.  They were in the granite mountain vault and it would take 3-4 
days to get them to the library.  I would suggest that if one is planning 
to look at certain films, they look on-line, or call the library, to make 
sure that they are physically there.  This would tend to alleviate 
disappointment.

Also, thanks for your encouragement and help with the translations.

Walt

On Saturday, May 14, 2016 at 10:22:52 AM UTC-5, rcapodc wrote:
>
> No, Nancy, you have to order it. I was hoping that it would be digitized 
> already but it's not. I have it here in my FHC and it may be in other 
> places but I don't think it's in Arkansas!!  One of the good things about 
> going to SLC it that all the films are at our fingertips, which helps 
> sometimes. If I'm having a hard time reading something on the CCA I can 
> always go to the film and sometimes it's easier to see that way! 
> I think that there is another Sao Jorge genealogy that they've taken of 
> the site. The index looked different in the back, not like the one I told 
> you about. Darn, I wish I knew the name of it! 
>
> Rosemarie 
> rcap...@gmail.com 
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 8:04 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
> fishso...@hotmail.com > wrote:
>
>> Rosemarie, is that film available on line?
>> --
>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  > > on behalf of Rosemarie Capodicci > >
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 14, 2016 9:33:38 AM
>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?
>>  
>> That's great, Nancy Jean! I also scoured Family Search.org trying to find 
>> which Sao Jorge film had the other genealogy and it's #1330512, item #6. I 
>> can't remember much about it, it's been years since I've looked but you may 
>> find other info there! 
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie 
>> rcap...@gmail.com 
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 6:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
>> fishso...@hotmail.com > wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Rosemarie,
>>>
>>>
>>> I spent quite a bit of time scanning it for family names and indeed 
>>> found several.also, now realize the de Sousa Pereira line has used that 
>>> combination of names for quite a while! Today maybe I can figure out how to 
>>> really use the index to find the families within the book. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Great info and I appreciate the link.
>>>
>>>
>>> Have a great day!
>>>
>>>
>>> Nancy Jean
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>>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  >> > on behalf of Rosemarie Capodicci >> >
>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 13, 2016 12:50:35 AM 
>>>
>>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?
>>>  
>>> Nancy Jean there is another book but for some reason it's not loading on 
>>> my page. It's another on Sao Jorge but it's not the one showing. It may be 
>>> the one on the microfilm though, it used to be on the page with the others 
>>> but it wasn't today. 
>>>
>>> Rosemarie 
>>> rcap...@gmail.com 
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci >> > wrote:
>>>
 Okay, here is the site: 
 http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/bd/pesquisa/default.aspx?cat=1
 It's the one on the right by Mateus Machado Fagundes de Azevedo. There 
 is an index in the back, so check there for the name. Let me know if you 
 need any help. I think it's pretty straight forward though, it looks like 
 a 
 Pedigree Chart. 




 Rosemarie 
 rcap...@gmail.com 
 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:12 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
 fishso...@hotmail.com > wrote:

> Thank you!
> --
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com   > on behalf of Rosemarie Capodicci  >
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:07:46 AM 
>
> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Is this the same man?
>  
> Sao Jorge!! My fingers are not yet awake!! LOL
>
>
> Rosemarie 
> rcap...@gmail.com 
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci  > wrote:
>
>> Just FYI, the Sao Joao manuscript is also on one of the microfilms 
>> that SLC has of our Azorean records. It's on one of the Sao Jorge o

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Arganil, Portugal - Difficult name distinction - 1890's

[Walt Teixeira]

Thank you for all that replied.  Deolinda and Olinda it is.

On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 11:53:28 AM UTC-5, Walt Teixeira wrote:
>
> I need help with figuring out a name on a couple of documents.  The first 
> is a baptism record for a girl named Dinlinda (at least that is what I am 
> reading in the margin and in the document).  The document is nice and 
> clear.  It is record number 70 at the following link:  
> http://pesquisa.auc.uc.pt/viewer?id=31804&FileID=498788
>
>  
>
> The second document is her death record (died at 10 months old).  The 
> margin and in the document gives her name with something before "linda".  
> Again 
> the document is nice and clear.  I can't figure out if it is a "C" or a 
> "D" or what it is but I can't find any name for a Portuguese girl spelled 
> anything like that.  Maybe it is an abbreviation for something.  It 
> certainly doesn't look like Dinlinda.  I am hoping someone knows what it 
> is.  These are the same person  The Obitos is record number 15 at the 
> following link:  http://pesquisa.auc.uc.pt/viewer?id=31862&FileID=501660
>
>  
>
> What do you say the name is   Thank you for your time and help in 
> this difficult translation.
>
>  
>
> Walter Teixeira
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My great grandfather Manuel Rose listed on 1910 census at Pierce street in East Providence, RI - Brick Wall

[Walt Teixeira]

Jenna, I agree with Judy.  Look at the city directories.  My mother was 
told by her mother that her dad had died when she was a baby.  In one of 
the city directories it stated that he had returned to Portugal.  Through 
ship's records I found the village he came from and eventually found his 
daughter from another marriage (my mother's half sister).  You got the 
short version but it ended well with sisters getting together and loving 
each other as well as a terrific relationship between my aunt and myself.  
Another piece of the puzzle was that I checked with the cemeteries in the 
area and one responded that they didn't have my grandfather but did have a 
sister of my mother's that had died at 1 year old who my mother new nothing 
about.  That gave me some information that my grandfather was alive a lot 
longer that we were led to believe.Good luck - keep looking. 

On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 11:44:26 PM UTC-5, Jennea Nunes-Rose- Young 
wrote:
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>   I have been digging for several months to locate my great 
> grandfather, Manuel Rose. I believe he married a Mary/Maria Fonseca born in 
> New Bedford about 1877. Her first marriage may have been to a Joseph neves.
>
> I have found mary/Maria and Manuel together only once on the 1910 census 
> in East Providence, RI. On the 1920 census Mary Rose lists herslf as a 
> widow. I have not been able to pinpoint his death year or location. They 
> have the following children from their union:
>
>
> John Rose b.1906/07 died 1935 in Providence, RI
> Lewis/Louis b.1908described as a hobo. He lived under the fox point 
> bridge at times, was a light drinker, never married, he played the 
> accordian and was able to speak French! possible mental illness
> Flora? died in childhood?
> Lena b.1909/1910
> Jennie Mae Rose b. 9/24/1911 (my paternal grandmother)
>
>
>
>
>   
> 
> Please help, I want to understand my lineage
>
>   
> 
>  Jennea Nunes Rose- Young
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa Confessional Roll abbreviations

[Walt Teixeira]

Very well put Cheri.  That should help clarify it for a lot of people.  
Yes, sometimes they will put sections or areas of the village and sometimes 
they will put street names and even path descriptions to describe where the 
person resided.

On Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 1:17:44 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Christian,
>
> Let's say you are moving to Omaha, Nebraska. You find an real estate agent 
> to show you some homes. First he shows you a home in the Conestoga part of 
> Omaha. Too quaint for your taste. Then he shows you a home in the Deer Park 
> section of Omaha. Too rustic. Then he shows you one in the Happy Heights 
> section and you absolutely love it. So you tell all your friends to go to 
> realtor.com and type in 1234 Happy Dance Rd, Omaha, NE to see your new 
> home. You didn't tell them 1234 Happy Dance Rd, Happy Heights, NE. And they 
> aren't going to mail your birthday card to Happy Heights either. They are 
> going to mail it to Omaha.
>
> So when you are reading the Portuguese records, you will see them 
> sometimes mention the neighborhood of that freguesia, and sometimes, even 
> the street name. Feteira is just a neighborhood Luz or Sao Mateus or 
> wherever you were researching.
>
> Now I have a homework assignment for you. Go here and print out this map 
> of Graciosa and its 4 freguesias:
>
> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/maps-churches-and-villages/graciosa.html
>
> Memorize that Guadalupe (the freguesia) has a church named Nossa Senhora 
> da Guadalupe. Luz (the freguesia) has a church named Nossa Senhora da Luz. 
> Praia (the freguesia) has a church named Sao Mateus. And Santa Cruz (the 
> freguesia) has church named Santa Cruz.
>
> The Portuguese records are housed by freguesia (villages) just like you 
> have to search realtor.com by city. Not neighborhood. It's nice to know 
> (you can put that info in your genealogy program), but you need to register 
> the event (baptism, marriage, death) by the freguesia it occurred in. If 
> you are using someone else's tree as a guide and they are doing the Happy 
> Heights thing, well, that is why you are confused.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa Confessional Roll abbreviations

[Walt Teixeira]

Christian,

I found a baptism for Francisco in Praia, Baptism records 1826-1833, Image 
0084, Top Right, date of birth 1 Nov 1832.  Father - Manuel Machado & 
Mother - Maria do Rosario. Paternal Grandmother - Rosa Maria - single.  
Maternal Grandparents - Francisco Jose Espinola and Maria do Rosario.  Is 
this the baptism record you have for their son Francisco?

On Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 2:57:42 AM UTC-5, Christian Day wrote:
>
> p.s. Tammy, if you ever find Manuel (or Manoel) Jose (Joze) Machado around 
> 1800 to 1806 let me know. My ancestry research says he was from Feiteira, 
> Graciosa but that come up as Feteira, I think, on the Tombo.pt site and I 
> haven't had much luck. While I know his general info from his son's 
> baptismal records, I'm not really sure where he's from. Manuel's wife is 
> Maria do Rozario. If you ever come across them, please let me know. 
> According to his grandson's baptism, he was apparently was born to an 
> unknown father and a "Roza Maria."
>
> I also took this image of Manuel's son Francisco's baptism from another 
> Ancestry user but I haven't gone through to see the original at the Azores 
> site. However, it seems like Manuel should have been in Sao Mateus or Praia 
> (which are listed separately on Tombo.pt I think) also though there's 
> something about Feiteira that the Ancestry user put in and my sense is it's 
> a mistake.
>
> On Saturday, September 3, 2016 at 8:26:32 PM UTC-5, Tammy Jesso wrote:
>>
>> Christian
>>
>> If you need any help, I'd be more then happy to help you. I've done lots 
>> of research in Sao Mateus, Graciosa 
>>
>> Tammy Jesso
>>
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Christian Day  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I've been buried in the confessional rolls of Graciosa trying to find my 
>> ancestors Manual Machado (b.abt.1805), his son Francisco Machado, and his 
>> son Jacintho Machado but last names are not often used. For example, the 
>> following document seems like it could be my Manuel Machado and two 
>> children I wasn't aware he had, but his name is abbreviated. I saw "Maxado" 
>> spelled out on another page and yes, I know that the 'X' is used in place 
>> of the 'ch' but I wonder why they abbreviate it some places and not others 
>> and if anyone has a key to these abbreviations.
>>
>> The example I'm asking about is in the lower right of this page:
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-S-1867-1869/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-S-1867-1869_item1/P73.html
>>
>> Many thanks!
>>
>> Christian
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa Confessional Roll abbreviations

[Walt Teixeira]

Christian, Contact Tammy Jesso - I know she can help you with the marriage 
record for Manoel and Maria.

On Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 11:43:41 PM UTC-5, Walt Teixeira wrote:
>
> Christian,
>
> I found a baptism for Francisco in Praia, Baptism records 1826-1833, Image 
> 0084, Top Right, date of birth 1 Nov 1832.  Father - Manuel Machado & 
> Mother - Maria do Rosario. Paternal Grandmother - Rosa Maria - single.  
> Maternal Grandparents - Francisco Jose Espinola and Maria do Rosario.  Is 
> this the baptism record you have for their son Francisco?
>
> On Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 2:57:42 AM UTC-5, Christian Day wrote:
>>
>> p.s. Tammy, if you ever find Manuel (or Manoel) Jose (Joze) Machado 
>> around 1800 to 1806 let me know. My ancestry research says he was from 
>> Feiteira, Graciosa but that come up as Feteira, I think, on the Tombo.pt 
>> site and I haven't had much luck. While I know his general info from his 
>> son's baptismal records, I'm not really sure where he's from. Manuel's wife 
>> is Maria do Rozario. If you ever come across them, please let me know. 
>> According to his grandson's baptism, he was apparently was born to an 
>> unknown father and a "Roza Maria."
>>
>> I also took this image of Manuel's son Francisco's baptism from another 
>> Ancestry user but I haven't gone through to see the original at the Azores 
>> site. However, it seems like Manuel should have been in Sao Mateus or Praia 
>> (which are listed separately on Tombo.pt I think) also though there's 
>> something about Feiteira that the Ancestry user put in and my sense is it's 
>> a mistake.
>>
>> On Saturday, September 3, 2016 at 8:26:32 PM UTC-5, Tammy Jesso wrote:
>>>
>>> Christian
>>>
>>> If you need any help, I'd be more then happy to help you. I've done lots 
>>> of research in Sao Mateus, Graciosa 
>>>
>>> Tammy Jesso
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Christian Day  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I've been buried in the confessional rolls of Graciosa trying to find my 
>>> ancestors Manual Machado (b.abt.1805), his son Francisco Machado, and his 
>>> son Jacintho Machado but last names are not often used. For example, the 
>>> following document seems like it could be my Manuel Machado and two 
>>> children I wasn't aware he had, but his name is abbreviated. I saw "Maxado" 
>>> spelled out on another page and yes, I know that the 'X' is used in place 
>>> of the 'ch' but I wonder why they abbreviate it some places and not others 
>>> and if anyone has a key to these abbreviations.
>>>
>>> The example I'm asking about is in the lower right of this page:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-S-1867-1869/GRA-SC-SAOMATEUS-S-1867-1869_item1/P73.html
>>>
>>> Many thanks!
>>>
>>> Christian
>>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 2016 Salt Lake City Conference Group photo

[Walt Teixeira]

Looks like a nice group.  Quite a few more than last year.  wish I could 
have made it.  Maybe next year.  Tex

On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 9:44:05 AM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
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> (Cross posted to the Azores and IslandRoutes lists. Can't post to Madeira 
> due to the hosting parameters)
>
> Attached is the photo of most of the people attending the genealogy 
> conference in Salt Lake (about 5 people missed the photo opportunity). We 
> are having a great time and learning a lot!
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Margin note - 1853 Baptism in Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel

[Walt Teixeira]

Cheri, I agree with the Marco when you compare the "m" in "mil" and the 
start of the "n" in "nove" (in most scripts the start of the M and N are 
the same).  I also agree with the "2".  I am up in the air with the 42 or 
62 because to me it looks like "senta" not "renta" but at the same time it 
does look a little more like "qua" rather than "ses".  I would ask for more 
opinions but short of that, I guess I would ultimately have to agree with 
42.  Good Luck, Walt Teixeira

On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 10:58:22 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
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> Wait. I think the month is March or maybe May. I'm not seeing the "h" or 
> any tall letter at the end for Junho. Could the year be 1942 or 1946? If it 
> was 1966, she would be 113 years old!
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Margaret Vicente  > wrote:
>
>> Here's my try:
>>
>> O individuo a que se refere este registro faleceu houje na Ribeira 
>> Quente. Vinte centavos mais os cincoenta centavos por este assento. 
>> Povoacao, aos vinte e tres de Junho de mil nove centos e sessenta e seis.
>>
>> The individual referred herewith passed away today in Ribeira Quente. 
>> Registered at Twenty cents plus fifty cents. Povoacao 23 June 1966
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Cheri Mello > > wrote:
>>
>>> Margin note on Anna, bottom left:
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1849-1859/SMG-PV-RIBEIRAQUENTE-B-1849-1859_item1/P42.html
>>>
>>> The individual that is referenced in this register...
>>>
>>> I might be kinda making out some of the words to be what I want them to 
>>> be, so I'd appreciate someone double checking me.
>>> Thanks! Cheri
>>> Cheri Mello
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>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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