Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Barreled through my brick wall, now what?
Take note that Ana Cabral and her parents are from Sao Jorge, Nordeste. JR On Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:47:14 PM UTC-4, luiznoia wrote: Jose Ignacio de Medeiros resident of Lomba de Feteira Grande( 35 yrs)and Ana Rosa de Jesus (18 yrs) his parents: Manuel Ignacio de Medeiros ( native of the freguisia of Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Achadinha) and Maria Francisca Resendes (native of this parish) Her parents Joao Cabral and Ludovina Rosa ( natives of this parish) This record is very clear. When I have trouble with the quality, I drop the image into Microsoft Paint or Photoshop, then adjust the contasts, or whatever neede to clear it up. Eric Edgar On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Nicole R, You can find ALL the kids of a particular couple (the kids' baptisms and marriage). It will strengthen your reading of the records. It will also build your database so when you get a DNA match, you'll have a starting point to connect your DNA match to. You didn't mention a place for your ancestors, but at the bottom you mention Achada and Santana. Achada has some of the worst records on Sao Miguel. I think the only records worse than part of Achada is Santa Maria island. There is a partial index for Achada marriages. It starts at the beginning (1680s) and goes to about 1730s if I remember correctly. I have a copy and I typed it up in Excel. Once you get to that time period and you're still in Achada (start hoping they came from somewhere else), send me an email and I'll send you the Excel file. It's going to be a bit of a struggle. I think I found an ancestor about the 1820s in Achada and most of her ancestors were from there. It was hard. I had to ask a lot of people to verify what I was reading. On the plus side, if you can read the stuff coming out of Achada, you'll be able to read anything. I know this isn't what you wanted to hear. I know of no other sources for Achada. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Barreled through my brick wall, now what?
So I was right about the names not quite matching. But the names are so close, is there a good chance that I have the right people here? On Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:47:14 PM UTC-4, luiznoia wrote: Jose Ignacio de Medeiros resident of Lomba de Feteira Grande( 35 yrs)and Ana Rosa de Jesus (18 yrs) his parents: Manuel Ignacio de Medeiros ( native of the freguisia of Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Achadinha) and Maria Francisca Resendes (native of this parish) Her parents Joao Cabral and Ludovina Rosa ( natives of this parish) This record is very clear. When I have trouble with the quality, I drop the image into Microsoft Paint or Photoshop, then adjust the contasts, or whatever neede to clear it up. Eric Edgar On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Nicole R, You can find ALL the kids of a particular couple (the kids' baptisms and marriage). It will strengthen your reading of the records. It will also build your database so when you get a DNA match, you'll have a starting point to connect your DNA match to. You didn't mention a place for your ancestors, but at the bottom you mention Achada and Santana. Achada has some of the worst records on Sao Miguel. I think the only records worse than part of Achada is Santa Maria island. There is a partial index for Achada marriages. It starts at the beginning (1680s) and goes to about 1730s if I remember correctly. I have a copy and I typed it up in Excel. Once you get to that time period and you're still in Achada (start hoping they came from somewhere else), send me an email and I'll send you the Excel file. It's going to be a bit of a struggle. I think I found an ancestor about the 1820s in Achada and most of her ancestors were from there. It was hard. I had to ask a lot of people to verify what I was reading. On the plus side, if you can read the stuff coming out of Achada, you'll be able to read anything. I know this isn't what you wanted to hear. I know of no other sources for Achada. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Barreled through my brick wall, now what?
Yes, I would say these are the right people. You often see this when religious first names are used and when any record lists a grandparent. JR On Friday, July 25, 2014 7:07:11 PM UTC-4, Nicole Rodriques wrote: So I was right about the names not quite matching. But the names are so close, is there a good chance that I have the right people here? On Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:47:14 PM UTC-4, luiznoia wrote: Jose Ignacio de Medeiros resident of Lomba de Feteira Grande( 35 yrs)and Ana Rosa de Jesus (18 yrs) his parents: Manuel Ignacio de Medeiros ( native of the freguisia of Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Achadinha) and Maria Francisca Resendes (native of this parish) Her parents Joao Cabral and Ludovina Rosa ( natives of this parish) This record is very clear. When I have trouble with the quality, I drop the image into Microsoft Paint or Photoshop, then adjust the contasts, or whatever neede to clear it up. Eric Edgar On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com wrote: Nicole R, You can find ALL the kids of a particular couple (the kids' baptisms and marriage). It will strengthen your reading of the records. It will also build your database so when you get a DNA match, you'll have a starting point to connect your DNA match to. You didn't mention a place for your ancestors, but at the bottom you mention Achada and Santana. Achada has some of the worst records on Sao Miguel. I think the only records worse than part of Achada is Santa Maria island. There is a partial index for Achada marriages. It starts at the beginning (1680s) and goes to about 1730s if I remember correctly. I have a copy and I typed it up in Excel. Once you get to that time period and you're still in Achada (start hoping they came from somewhere else), send me an email and I'll send you the Excel file. It's going to be a bit of a struggle. I think I found an ancestor about the 1820s in Achada and most of her ancestors were from there. It was hard. I had to ask a lot of people to verify what I was reading. On the plus side, if you can read the stuff coming out of Achada, you'll be able to read anything. I know this isn't what you wanted to hear. I know of no other sources for Achada. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Barreled through my brick wall, now what?
Until a few days ago I was stuck at only knowing my great-gparents' names and vaguely where they came from and relevant birth and death dates. With the help of people on this list, I now I have the names all the way back to my g-g-g-great gparents thanks to the Azores baptismos and marriage records. I found the baptismos and marriage record of the great grandparents. I found what is likely the marriage record of the parents of my great-grandfather. Given the age at marriage, I can guess what year to look for baptismos. However, I have reached a point where I can't read the records, the writing is too faded or the pages are mostly destroyed or the format completely changed. I know there has to be some way to continue but I don't quite know that that is short of hiring a professional and as much as I would like to, I can't afford that. Maybe someone can point me in a direction to look? What I know- Manuel Duarte Silva (b. Sept 9 1887 d. 1946) married Conceicao Cabral Medeiros (b. Aug-28-1884 d. Nov 11 1960), they were married in 1908 in Sao Miguel. I have found both baptismos and the marriage record. Manuel's parents were Manuel Duarte Silva and Anna da Conceicao (So previous Manuel is Manuel Jr.? I thought this didn't happen?) I found a marriage record for them dated 1886. I believe it says that they were both 26, so that puts birth around 1860? They had two other children- Jose Duarte Silva and Mary Duarte Silva (I know nothing about these two). Manuel Sr.'s parents were Jose Duarte Jr and Rosa da Silva, Anna da Conceicao's parents were Joao Pacheco and Rosa Pacheco. Conceicao Cabral Medeiros's parents were Jose Ignacio Medeiros and Anna Cabral. (I found a marriage record from 1878 that may be them, but the names are wrong. Looks like it says Jose Ignacio Medeiros and Anna Rosa da Jesus, but the parents listed for them match the grandparents listed on Conceicao's baptismo? Maybe I'm reading names wrong? It's no 30- bottom right-- http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1870-1879/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1870-1879_item1/P89.html) Jose 's parents were Manuel Ignacio de Medeiros and Maria Francisca, Anna Cabral's parents were Joao Cabral de Pimentel and Ludovina do Amor Divino. I guess I can look through obitos from Achada and Santana to see if I find relevant people, but what else can I do? Thanks Nicole R -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Barreled through my brick wall, now what?
Nicole R, You can find ALL the kids of a particular couple (the kids' baptisms and marriage). It will strengthen your reading of the records. It will also build your database so when you get a DNA match, you'll have a starting point to connect your DNA match to. You didn't mention a place for your ancestors, but at the bottom you mention Achada and Santana. Achada has some of the worst records on Sao Miguel. I think the only records worse than part of Achada is Santa Maria island. There is a partial index for Achada marriages. It starts at the beginning (1680s) and goes to about 1730s if I remember correctly. I have a copy and I typed it up in Excel. Once you get to that time period and you're still in Achada (start hoping they came from somewhere else), send me an email and I'll send you the Excel file. It's going to be a bit of a struggle. I think I found an ancestor about the 1820s in Achada and most of her ancestors were from there. It was hard. I had to ask a lot of people to verify what I was reading. On the plus side, if you can read the stuff coming out of Achada, you'll be able to read anything. I know this isn't what you wanted to hear. I know of no other sources for Achada. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Barreled through my brick wall, now what?
Jose Ignacio de Medeiros resident of Lomba de Feteira Grande( 35 yrs)and Ana Rosa de Jesus (18 yrs) his parents: Manuel Ignacio de Medeiros ( native of the freguisia of Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Achadinha) and Maria Francisca Resendes (native of this parish) Her parents Joao Cabral and Ludovina Rosa ( natives of this parish) This record is very clear. When I have trouble with the quality, I drop the image into Microsoft Paint or Photoshop, then adjust the contasts, or whatever neede to clear it up. Eric Edgar On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Nicole R, You can find ALL the kids of a particular couple (the kids' baptisms and marriage). It will strengthen your reading of the records. It will also build your database so when you get a DNA match, you'll have a starting point to connect your DNA match to. You didn't mention a place for your ancestors, but at the bottom you mention Achada and Santana. Achada has some of the worst records on Sao Miguel. I think the only records worse than part of Achada is Santa Maria island. There is a partial index for Achada marriages. It starts at the beginning (1680s) and goes to about 1730s if I remember correctly. I have a copy and I typed it up in Excel. Once you get to that time period and you're still in Achada (start hoping they came from somewhere else), send me an email and I'll send you the Excel file. It's going to be a bit of a struggle. I think I found an ancestor about the 1820s in Achada and most of her ancestors were from there. It was hard. I had to ask a lot of people to verify what I was reading. On the plus side, if you can read the stuff coming out of Achada, you'll be able to read anything. I know this isn't what you wanted to hear. I know of no other sources for Achada. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
