Help! I do not know what "Wim" is even referring too in the email. I sent
an email asking if this person would consider posting a GEDCOM to their
tested person and this is what was sent.

I know this is not Azorean, but would you consider helping me understand,
please. I do not even know where to find the values he has mentioned. "
DF19+ and DF88+ let alone the L644

The kit number they gave is not mine. My kit for James A Miller is 211318.

It might be easier to talk me through this on the phone. I would be
available after 8:30pm CA time. 801 254-5985

Thank you

Marilyn

ps Gilbert Machado's test kit has been received by FTDNA. His is an
Azorean.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Wim Verelst <wimvere...@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: Mr. Johan Verelst FTDNA Match
To: Marilyn Thompson <mari...@jmtmlt.com>


Hello Marilyn,

the paper trail of Johan Verelst's ancestry ends in a man named Cornelis
Verelst, born about 1565 in a small village south from Antwerp (present-day
Belgium). However, he is genetically related to me, and we share a
biologically confirmed ancestor who lived in that same region in the 15th
century.

Is the kit number of "your" James A. Miller 228805? I am one of the
volunteer co-administrators of the "P312 & Subclades" project at FTDNA, and
in this project we have quite a few Miller samples that have tested
positive for the DF19 and DF88 mutations. Is yours one of these? My own
Verelst family is also DF19+ DF88+, but unlike the Miller / Müller family
it has an additional mutation, L644. Any historic connection between the
Miller and Verelst lineages thus necessarily pre-dates the origin of the
L644 mutation, and because we estimate that L644 originated roughly between
the 5th and 8th century AD, we need to go back at least 1300 years to find
a common ancestor. I expect that this MRCA lived in northern Germany or
Denmark.

  Best regards,

     Wim Verelst.



  On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 7:49 PM, Marilyn Thompson <mari...@jmtmlt.com>
wrote:
 Mr. Johan Verelst
is listed as a distant ancestral match to my James A Miller.

Would you please consider posting a GEDCOM file so we may attempt to locate
the connection between Johan and James?

Thank you
Marilyn

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