Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with parents' names, Rabo de Peixe, Sao Miguel

2019-02-13 Thread Thea 
Hi Cheri and JR,
Thanks for the comments.  Yes, I am happy to have these records and we are 
lucky that they are this clear from the early 1600s. JR thanks for adding 
the padrinhos for me.  Those names are familiar to me in my other 
lines/families in this area, especially Joao Lopes.  
Thea


On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 6:19:20 PM UTC-8, JR wrote:
>
> Rabo de Peixe is the freguesia next to Calhetas, and Calhetas was 
> considered part of Rabo de Peixe freguesia at one time. You will not find 
> records older than 1796 for baptisms, 1836 for marriages. Calhetas must 
> have begun almost the same time as Rabo de Peixe because it is often 
> referenced in the old Ribeira Grande and Rabo de Peixe records. It is 
> possible that you may find some links to Ribeira Grande, Estrela, and to 
> lesser extent, maybe Ponta Delgada also. Really, I know we want more, but 
> it is blessing to have anything in the 1600's at all.
>
> Padrinhos, o Padre, Joao Lopes da Vila (perhaps Ribeira Grande?), and 
> Izabel Alvres, mulher de Antonio Alvares das Calhetas
>
> JR
>
> On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 12:25:10 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Thea,
>> The older Calhetas records may be housed in the next freguesia over. I 
>> don't have those notes in front of me, but I bet one of the Ribeira Grande 
>> researchers on this list knows off the top of their head.
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 9:09 AM Thea  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Cheri, 
>>>
>>> Thanks for the response.  I would have never picked up on Calhetas in 
>>> the record, yet when looking at it now, it's quite clear.  I went into 
>>> Tombo quickly and they don't start records in Calhetas until 1837, way 
>>> after I need those records.  The record I was working on is 1608.  I was 
>>> sort of happy not to have to look further back, as I have so much more to 
>>> look into.  :)
>>> Again thanks,
>>> Thea
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 9, 2019 at 9:27:36 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Hi Thea,

 Although it's abbreviated, I believe you are correct. Manuel Gonçalves 
 das Calhetas and Isabel Vieira. 

 Go to the Azores GenWeb here (make sure you bookmark this one; Rootsweb 
 had issues and one site is very old): 
 http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/ 
 
 Then look for the Maps button, pick Sao Miguel, and you will find a 
 Calhetas in Ribeira Grande. So the dad was from a different freguesia.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


 On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 9:12 AM Thea  wrote:

>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1605-1623/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1605-1623_item1/P17.html
>  
> 
>
> Joao is on the bottom left 
>
> bpt. 3 Mar 1608 in Bom Jesus, Rabo de Peixe, Sao Miguel
> I need help with his parents' names
> Manuel ?  (I want it to be Gonsalves)  and what does it say after that?
> Isabel ? (I want it to be Viera)
>
> Thank you for your help.
> Thea Norum
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with parents' names, Rabo de Peixe, Sao Miguel

2019-02-10 Thread JR 
Rabo de Peixe is the freguesia next to Calhetas, and Calhetas was 
considered part of Rabo de Peixe freguesia at one time. You will not find 
records older than 1796 for baptisms, 1836 for marriages. Calhetas must 
have begun almost the same time as Rabo de Peixe because it is often 
referenced in the old Ribeira Grande and Rabo de Peixe records. It is 
possible that you may find some links to Ribeira Grande, Estrela, and to 
lesser extent, maybe Ponta Delgada also. Really, I know we want more, but 
it is blessing to have anything in the 1600's at all.

Padrinhos, o Padre, Joao Lopes da Vila (perhaps Ribeira Grande?), and 
Izabel Alvres, mulher de Antonio Alvares das Calhetas

JR

On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 12:25:10 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Thea,
> The older Calhetas records may be housed in the next freguesia over. I 
> don't have those notes in front of me, but I bet one of the Ribeira Grande 
> researchers on this list knows off the top of their head.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 9:09 AM Thea > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Cheri, 
>>
>> Thanks for the response.  I would have never picked up on Calhetas in the 
>> record, yet when looking at it now, it's quite clear.  I went into Tombo 
>> quickly and they don't start records in Calhetas until 1837, way after I 
>> need those records.  The record I was working on is 1608.  I was sort of 
>> happy not to have to look further back, as I have so much more to look 
>> into.  :)
>> Again thanks,
>> Thea
>>
>> On Saturday, February 9, 2019 at 9:27:36 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Thea,
>>>
>>> Although it's abbreviated, I believe you are correct. Manuel Gonçalves 
>>> das Calhetas and Isabel Vieira. 
>>>
>>> Go to the Azores GenWeb here (make sure you bookmark this one; Rootsweb 
>>> had issues and one site is very old): http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/ 
>>> 
>>> Then look for the Maps button, pick Sao Miguel, and you will find a 
>>> Calhetas in Ribeira Grande. So the dad was from a different freguesia.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira 
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 9:12 AM Thea  wrote:
>>>

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1605-1623/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1605-1623_item1/P17.html
  
 

 Joao is on the bottom left 

 bpt. 3 Mar 1608 in Bom Jesus, Rabo de Peixe, Sao Miguel
 I need help with his parents' names
 Manuel ?  (I want it to be Gonsalves)  and what does it say after that?
 Isabel ? (I want it to be Viera)

 Thank you for your help.
 Thea Norum

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with parents' names, Rabo de Peixe, Sao Miguel

2019-02-10 Thread Cheri Mello 
Thea,
The older Calhetas records may be housed in the next freguesia over. I
don't have those notes in front of me, but I bet one of the Ribeira Grande
researchers on this list knows off the top of their head.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 9:09 AM Thea  wrote:

> Hi Cheri,
>
> Thanks for the response.  I would have never picked up on Calhetas in the
> record, yet when looking at it now, it's quite clear.  I went into Tombo
> quickly and they don't start records in Calhetas until 1837, way after I
> need those records.  The record I was working on is 1608.  I was sort of
> happy not to have to look further back, as I have so much more to look
> into.  :)
> Again thanks,
> Thea
>
> On Saturday, February 9, 2019 at 9:27:36 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Hi Thea,
>>
>> Although it's abbreviated, I believe you are correct. Manuel Gonçalves
>> das Calhetas and Isabel Vieira.
>>
>> Go to the Azores GenWeb here (make sure you bookmark this one; Rootsweb
>> had issues and one site is very old): http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/
>> 
>> Then look for the Maps button, pick Sao Miguel, and you will find a
>> Calhetas in Ribeira Grande. So the dad was from a different freguesia.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 9:12 AM Thea  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1605-1623/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1605-1623_item1/P17.html
>>> 
>>>
>>> Joao is on the bottom left
>>>
>>> bpt. 3 Mar 1608 in Bom Jesus, Rabo de Peixe, Sao Miguel
>>> I need help with his parents' names
>>> Manuel ?  (I want it to be Gonsalves)  and what does it say after that?
>>> Isabel ? (I want it to be Viera)
>>>
>>> Thank you for your help.
>>> Thea Norum
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with parents' names, Rabo de Peixe, Sao Miguel

2019-02-10 Thread Thea 
Hi Cheri, 

Thanks for the response.  I would have never picked up on Calhetas in the 
record, yet when looking at it now, it's quite clear.  I went into Tombo 
quickly and they don't start records in Calhetas until 1837, way after I 
need those records.  The record I was working on is 1608.  I was sort of 
happy not to have to look further back, as I have so much more to look 
into.  :)
Again thanks,
Thea

On Saturday, February 9, 2019 at 9:27:36 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Hi Thea,
>
> Although it's abbreviated, I believe you are correct. Manuel Gonçalves das 
> Calhetas and Isabel Vieira. 
>
> Go to the Azores GenWeb here (make sure you bookmark this one; Rootsweb 
> had issues and one site is very old): http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/ 
> 
> Then look for the Maps button, pick Sao Miguel, and you will find a 
> Calhetas in Ribeira Grande. So the dad was from a different freguesia.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 9:12 AM Thea > 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1605-1623/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1605-1623_item1/P17.html
>>  
>> 
>>
>> Joao is on the bottom left 
>>
>> bpt. 3 Mar 1608 in Bom Jesus, Rabo de Peixe, Sao Miguel
>> I need help with his parents' names
>> Manuel ?  (I want it to be Gonsalves)  and what does it say after that?
>> Isabel ? (I want it to be Viera)
>>
>> Thank you for your help.
>> Thea Norum
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with parents' names, Rabo de Peixe, Sao Miguel

2019-02-09 Thread Cheri Mello 
Hi Thea,

Although it's abbreviated, I believe you are correct. Manuel Gonçalves das
Calhetas and Isabel Vieira.

Go to the Azores GenWeb here (make sure you bookmark this one; Rootsweb had
issues and one site is very old): http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/
Then look for the Maps button, pick Sao Miguel, and you will find a
Calhetas in Ribeira Grande. So the dad was from a different freguesia.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 9:12 AM Thea  wrote:

>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1605-1623/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1605-1623_item1/P17.html
>
> Joao is on the bottom left
>
> bpt. 3 Mar 1608 in Bom Jesus, Rabo de Peixe, Sao Miguel
> I need help with his parents' names
> Manuel ?  (I want it to be Gonsalves)  and what does it say after that?
> Isabel ? (I want it to be Viera)
>
> Thank you for your help.
> Thea Norum
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with parents' names, Rabo de Peixe, Sao Miguel

2019-02-09 Thread Thea 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1605-1623/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1605-1623_item1/P17.html

Joao is on the bottom left 

bpt. 3 Mar 1608 in Bom Jesus, Rabo de Peixe, Sao Miguel
I need help with his parents' names
Manuel ?  (I want it to be Gonsalves)  and what does it say after that?
Isabel ? (I want it to be Viera)

Thank you for your help.
Thea Norum

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