RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
Very interesting article. Thanks for the link. Sam (Camas, WA) From: E Sharp Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:33 PM To: azores Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Here is a great site that explains it all. https://www.archives.gov/files/publications/prologue/2014/spring/citizenship.pdf "E" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
Sorry I didn't answer yesterday Liz Didn't get to my email! Yes, that's exactly what I meant! Thank you E for the great article which explains this so well! Susan Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > > Wait, who got around to it in the 60's > Do you mean that your mother was born here > Married gfather in 1916. Then he got his citizenship but she did not > automatically become citizen again??? > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:53 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy >> wrote: >> >> The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" (she >> told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in the 20's >> but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I think she >> finally got around to it in the 1960s. >> >> Susan >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: >>> >>> Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that >>> my gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so >>> mad if anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his >>> citizenship. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If the husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman (being a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship too (before 1920 and women's rights). 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's name in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the censuses and see if she was a citizen. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros > wrote: > When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores > from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or > their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record > from 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her > handwriting but has her family name not her husband's surname. > I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. > George > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
See Elaine's link. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > OMG. How would I find out where would I look > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:33 PM, E Sharp wrote: > > Here is a great site that explains it all. > > https://www.archives.gov/files/publications/prologue/ > 2014/spring/citizenship.pdf > > "E" > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
OMG. How would I find out where would I look Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:33 PM, E Sharp wrote: > > Here is a great site that explains it all. > > https://www.archives.gov/files/publications/prologue/2014/spring/citizenship.pdf > > "E" > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
Pa means Papers were filed to become a citizen. He's not one yet. Na is Naturalized and he would be a citizen. Yes, he naturalized after 1920. His wife is her own person, no longer property of her man and she would have had to apply to be a citizen again. Others provided links regarding it. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > Mary A Sylvia. Newport R I Nov 1892 > > Jose Silveira Santa Cedros, Fayal Dec 1889 > > Became citizen around 192??? > In 1930 census was citizen > ( now that I've blown this up I see it says Pa for citizenship. Is this > really a place? I've not been able to find his paperwork or date before > > Married July 1914 Newport R I > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > You need to put dates. I can't follow. > 1) Name, birthdate, and birth place of female ancestor. > 2) Name, birthdate, and birth place of the spouse. > > 3) Date & place they married. > 4) Did he naturalize? If so, what date? > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > >> So now I'm wondering. >> I don't recall my grandmother ever applying to become a citizen again. >> She was born in Newport RI >> Was she supposed to apply to become one after she married my grandfather >> and he became a citizen >> >> Liz >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jun 14, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < >> rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> *My grandmother was born in Fall River, MA because my grandfather was an >> alien she applied for citizen ship in 1939. She received a Certificate of >> Citizenship where as my grandfather when he became a citizen in 1944 he >> received a Naturalization Certificate. Attached Also my grandmother’s >> certificate came from the Department of Labor where my grandfather’s came >> from the Department of Justice.* >> >> >> >> *Rick* >> >> >> >> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com >> ] *On Behalf Of *Liz Migliori >> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:24 PM >> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization >> >> >> >> Wait, who got around to it in the 60's >> >> Do you mean that your mother was born here >> >> Married gfather in 1916. Then he got his citizenship but she did not >> automatically become citizen again??? >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:53 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy < >> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" >> (she told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in >> the 20's but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I >> think she finally got around to it in the 1960s. >> >> >> >> Susan >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: >> >> Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that >> my gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so >> mad if anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his >> citizenship. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If >> the husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman >> (being a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship >> too (before 1920 and women's rights). >> >> 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or >> her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's >> name in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the >> censuses and see if she was a citizen. >> >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Med
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
Mary A Sylvia. Newport R I Nov 1892 Jose Silveira Santa Cedros, Fayal Dec 1889 Became citizen around 192??? In 1930 census was citizen ( now that I've blown this up I see it says Pa for citizenship. Is this really a place? I've not been able to find his paperwork or date before Married July 1914 Newport R I Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > You need to put dates. I can't follow. > 1) Name, birthdate, and birth place of female ancestor. > 2) Name, birthdate, and birth place of the spouse. > > 3) Date & place they married. > 4) Did he naturalize? If so, what date? > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: >> So now I'm wondering. >> I don't recall my grandmother ever applying to become a citizen again. >> She was born in Newport RI >> Was she supposed to apply to become one after she married my grandfather and >> he became a citizen >> >> Liz >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel >>> wrote: >>> >>> My grandmother was born in Fall River, MA because my grandfather was an >>> alien she applied for citizen ship in 1939. She received a Certificate of >>> Citizenship where as my grandfather when he became a citizen in 1944 he >>> received a Naturalization Certificate. Attached Also my grandmother’s >>> certificate came from the Department of Labor where my grandfather’s came >>> from the Department of Justice. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >>> >>> From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of >>> Liz Migliori >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:24 PM >>> To: azores@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization >>> >>> >>> >>> Wait, who got around to it in the 60's >>> >>> Do you mean that your mother was born here >>> >>> Married gfather in 1916. Then he got his citizenship but she did not >>> automatically become citizen again??? >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:53 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy >>> wrote: >>> >>> The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" (she >>> told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in the >>> 20's but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I >>> think she finally got around to it in the 1960s. >>> >>> >>> >>> Susan >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: >>> >>> Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that >>> my gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so >>> mad if anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his >>> citizenship. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If >>> the husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman >>> (being a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship >>> too (before 1920 and women's rights). >>> >>> 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or >>> her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's >>> name in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the >>> censuses and see if she was a citizen. >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros >>> wrote: >>> >>> When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores >>> from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or >>> t
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
Here is a great site that explains it all. https://www.archives.gov/files/publications/prologue/2014/spring/citizenship.pdf "E" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
Yes she would have had to reapply. it was called the Reparation Act. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > So now I'm wondering. > I don't recall my grandmother ever applying to become a citizen again. > She was born in Newport RI > Was she supposed to apply to become one after she married my grandfather > and he became a citizen > > Liz > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < > rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote: > > *My grandmother was born in Fall River, MA because my grandfather was an > alien she applied for citizen ship in 1939. She received a Certificate of > Citizenship where as my grandfather when he became a citizen in 1944 he > received a Naturalization Certificate. Attached Also my grandmother’s > certificate came from the Department of Labor where my grandfather’s came > from the Department of Justice.* > > > > *Rick* > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com > ] *On Behalf Of *Liz Migliori > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:24 PM > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization > > > > Wait, who got around to it in the 60's > > Do you mean that your mother was born here > > Married gfather in 1916. Then he got his citizenship but she did not > automatically become citizen again??? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:53 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" > (she told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in > the 20's but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I > think she finally got around to it in the 1960s. > > > > Susan > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: > > Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that > my gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so > mad if anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his > citizenship. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If > the husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman > (being a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship > too (before 1920 and women's rights). > > 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or > her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's > name in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the > censuses and see if she was a citizen. > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros > wrote: > > When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores > from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or > their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from > 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting > but has her family name not her husband's surname. > I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. > George > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message becau
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
You need to put dates. I can't follow. 1) Name, birthdate, and birth place of female ancestor. 2) Name, birthdate, and birth place of the spouse. 3) Date & place they married. 4) Did he naturalize? If so, what date? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > So now I'm wondering. > I don't recall my grandmother ever applying to become a citizen again. > She was born in Newport RI > Was she supposed to apply to become one after she married my grandfather > and he became a citizen > > Liz > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < > rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote: > > *My grandmother was born in Fall River, MA because my grandfather was an > alien she applied for citizen ship in 1939. She received a Certificate of > Citizenship where as my grandfather when he became a citizen in 1944 he > received a Naturalization Certificate. Attached Also my grandmother’s > certificate came from the Department of Labor where my grandfather’s came > from the Department of Justice.* > > > > *Rick* > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com > ] *On Behalf Of *Liz Migliori > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:24 PM > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization > > > > Wait, who got around to it in the 60's > > Do you mean that your mother was born here > > Married gfather in 1916. Then he got his citizenship but she did not > automatically become citizen again??? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:53 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" > (she told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in > the 20's but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I > think she finally got around to it in the 1960s. > > > > Susan > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: > > Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that > my gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so > mad if anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his > citizenship. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If > the husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman > (being a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship > too (before 1920 and women's rights). > > 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or > her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's > name in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the > censuses and see if she was a citizen. > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros > wrote: > > When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores > from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or > their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from > 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting > but has her family name not her husband's surname. > I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. > George > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
So now I'm wondering. I don't recall my grandmother ever applying to become a citizen again. She was born in Newport RI Was she supposed to apply to become one after she married my grandfather and he became a citizen Liz Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel > wrote: > > My grandmother was born in Fall River, MA because my grandfather was an alien > she applied for citizen ship in 1939. She received a Certificate of > Citizenship where as my grandfather when he became a citizen in 1944 he > received a Naturalization Certificate. Attached Also my grandmother’s > certificate came from the Department of Labor where my grandfather’s came > from the Department of Justice. > > Rick > > From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Liz Migliori > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:24 PM > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization > > Wait, who got around to it in the 60's > Do you mean that your mother was born here > Married gfather in 1916. Then he got his citizenship but she did not > automatically become citizen again??? > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:53 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy > wrote: > > The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" (she > told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in the 20's > but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I think she > finally got around to it in the 1960s. > > Susan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: > > Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that my > gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so mad if > anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his citizenship. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If the > husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman (being a > U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship too (before > 1920 and women's rights). > > 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or her > husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's name in > America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the censuses and > see if she was a citizen. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros > wrote: > When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores > from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or their > husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from 1926 of > a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting but has > her family name not her husband's surname. > I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. > George > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
After 1920, a woman was her own person and would have to apply for her own citizenship. It didn't matter what her husband did. On Jun 14, 2017 2:46 PM, "Liz Migliori" wrote: > Wait, who got around to it in the 60's > Do you mean that your mother was born here > Married gfather in 1916. Then he got his citizenship but she did not > automatically become citizen again??? > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:53 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" > (she told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in > the 20's but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I > think she finally got around to it in the 1960s. > > Susan > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: > > Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that > my gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so > mad if anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his > citizenship. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If > the husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman > (being a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship > too (before 1920 and women's rights). > > 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or > her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's > name in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the > censuses and see if she was a citizen. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros > wrote: > >> When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores >> from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or >> their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from >> 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting >> but has her family name not her husband's surname. >> I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. >> George >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization
Wait, who got around to it in the 60's Do you mean that your mother was born here Married gfather in 1916. Then he got his citizenship but she did not automatically become citizen again??? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 10:53 AM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy > wrote: > > The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" (she > told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in the 20's > but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I think she > finally got around to it in the 1960s. > > Susan > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: >> >> Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that my >> gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so mad if >> anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his citizenship. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If >>> the husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman >>> (being a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship >>> too (before 1920 and women's rights). >>> >>> 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or >>> her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's >>> name in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the >>> censuses and see if she was a citizen. >>> >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros wrote: When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting but has her family name not her husband's surname. I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. George Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Records in the United States
Most of the women this happened to, and there were many, reclaimed their citizenship so they could collect Social Security. "E" Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Records in the United States
The same thing happened to my grandma who married her dear "greenhorn" (she told me people called him that) in 1916. Her got his citizenship in the 20's but she remained an alien for decades Don't have it here but I think she finally got around to it in the 1960s. Susan Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Liz Migliori wrote: > > Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that my > gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so mad if > anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his citizenship. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If the >> husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman (being >> a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship too >> (before 1920 and women's rights). >> >> 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or >> her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's name >> in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the censuses >> and see if she was a citizen. >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros >>> wrote: >>> When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores >>> from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or >>> their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from >>> 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting >>> but has her family name not her husband's surname. >>> I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. >>> George >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Records in the United States
Thx for this info Cheri. Confirms for me. Whenever I tell relatives that my gram lost her citizenship they don't believe me. She used to get so mad if anyone called her a greenhorn. She made grandpa get his citizenship. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If the > husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman (being a > U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship too (before > 1920 and women's rights). > > 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or her > husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's name in > America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the censuses and > see if she was a citizen. > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros >> wrote: >> When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores >> from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or >> their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from >> 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting >> but has her family name not her husband's surname. >> I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. >> George >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Records in the United States
Before 1920, women didn't naturalize on their own. No women's rights. If the husband naturalized, then she was considered naturalized. If a woman (being a U.S. Citizen) married an alien, she lost her American citizenship too (before 1920 and women's rights). 1926 - maybe it's her, maybe it's not. Women could use her maiden name or her husband's name. In my research, I've seen women use their husband's name in America. Get her death and see if she was a citizen. Look at the censuses and see if she was a citizen. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:32 AM, George Medeiros wrote: > When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores > from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or > their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from > 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting > but has her family name not her husband's surname. > I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. > George > > Sent from my iPad > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Question on Naturalization Records in the United States
When a married woman became a citizen of the U.S. from the azores from 1900- 1950 does the naturalization record use their own surname or their husband's ? Does anyone know ? I found a naturalization record from 1926 of a woman with my grandmother's name which looks like her handwriting but has her family name not her husband's surname. I do not know if she ever became a citizen but this record might be her. George Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
