Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1674 Rodrigues Obito - Flamengos. Faial

2016-06-27 Thread Fawn Silva 
Thank you so much everyone for your thoughts and help.  Does not sound like
this is the child I am looking for.  I wish they included more info in
these old records.  So hard to know if who you are finding is family or
not!

Sorry I was so slow in responding.  Got caught up with issues here at home
but am back at this again now!!

Thanks again for your help.

Fawn Silva
St. Louis, MO

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 9:00 AM, mnk  wrote:

> Definitely viuva. Look closely at the records written by this priest to
> compare his style of writing, you will see the difference between his n's
> and v's.
> MNK
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1674 Rodrigues Obito - Flamengos. Faial

2016-05-26 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva 
Susan it is viúva (veuva - old portuguese spelling).
eliseu

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I read through quite a few of the entries and widow just makes sense, as when 
they are married, he says so, and there was one that he stated not 
marriedso the word fits into that formula even tho I agree that it does 
not look like viuva. Too bad he didn't say who they were the widows "of"as 
some do!

Susan Vargas Murphy 

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> On May 25, 2016, at 6:58 PM, linda <menesesli...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> it's subtle, but if one looks at the word in the context of the whole entry, 
> it it appears to me that it is almost surely viuva, spelled "veuva". The 
> priest makes his "n" compressed and with with a little serif.  His "u" and 
> his "v" are expanded and look essentially the same. 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1674 Rodrigues Obito - Flamengos. Faial

2016-05-25 Thread 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
I read through quite a few of the entries and widow just makes sense, as when 
they are married, he says so, and there was one that he stated not 
marriedso the word fits into that formula even tho I agree that it does 
not look like viuva. Too bad he didn't say who they were the widows "of"as 
some do!

Susan Vargas Murphy 

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> On May 25, 2016, at 6:58 PM, linda  wrote:
> 
> it's subtle, but if one looks at the word in the context of the whole entry, 
> it it appears to me that it is almost surely viuva, spelled "veuva". The 
> priest makes his "n" compressed and with with a little serif.  His "u" and 
> his "v" are expanded and look essentially the same. 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1674 Rodrigues Obito - Flamengos. Faial

2016-05-25 Thread linda 
it's subtle, but if one looks at the word in the context of the whole entry, it 
it appears to me that it is almost surely viuva, spelled "veuva". The priest 
makes his "n" compressed and with with a little serif.  His "u" and his "v" are 
expanded and look essentially the same. 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1674 Rodrigues Obito - Flamengos. Faial

2016-05-25 Thread Luciana Pio Raposo 
It sure is not viúva - the word nenna seems like a spanish word nena for 
querida but maybe it was a nickname for Maria  although it`s not starting 
with a capital N.
The curious thing is that all those registers say where each body is 
burried in the cemetery: Near the south entrance, next to the main entrace, 
etc

Em segunda-feira, 23 de maio de 2016 02:22:41 UTC-3, 2si...@gmail.com 
escreveu:
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> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am looking for an obito for Maria, the illegitimate child of Agada 
> Rodrigues, who was born in 1670.  Agada had another Maria who was born 
> in 1680 so I believe this first Maria had died.  I remember Joao Ventura 
> saying in a seminar that during this time period the deaths of children 
> under the age of 7 were not recorded but I did find this obito.
>
> After Maria Rodrigues it says what looks like nenna.  Can't find a 
> translation for that.  Does anyone know what that means or if I am reading 
> it wrong??  Could this have been a child? 
>
> Thank you for any ideas you have to offer!
>
> Fawn Silva
> St. Louis, MO
>
> 1st entry on top right:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-O-1649-1705/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-O-1649-1705_item1/P28.html
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1674 Rodrigues Obito - Flamengos. Faial

2016-05-23 Thread bsei2816 
I also think it says viuva, so wouldn't be a four-year-old girl.  

I did not know they did not record obits for children during this era; but 
I'll keep this in mind.  Looking around, it seems there aren't any that 
appear to be children.  Ages are not given, but in later centuries it 
seemed to me that children usually didn't have  a surname (I could be wrong 
about this).  All of these obits do have surnames.

Bill Seidler

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