Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

2017-01-10 Thread David Perry
Marilyn, the whole process took place in 2013 and ended for me in December of 
that year.  My son applied a few months later in 2014.David 

On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 3:53 PM, Marilyn Thompson  
wrote:
 

 David how recent was this that you and your son applied?My grandmother was 
born on Sao Jorge and came to the US. She married in California, her 2 children 
were born there as was I a granddaughter.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 4:03 PM, David Perry  wrote:

Phil, my son used my citizenship paper trail and my confirmation of citizenship 
to secure his.  When he went to the NY Consulate before I applied, he was given 
very little encouragement and was told he needed to learn the language even 
though his grandfather was born in the Azores.  After I got my citizenship 
through the San Francisco Consulate with no requirements except the paper 
trail, he took that information to the same consulate and was greeted with open 
arms with no language requirement and had his citizenship in just a few weeks.  
David 

On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:26 PM, Phil Lopes  
wrote:
 

 David,I am curious, did your son secure citizenship as a result of your 
citizenship or did he have to go through the same process as you did?Thanks.
Phil Lopes 
  
  

   
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:45 AM, David Perry  wrote:

I too had a stumbling block - my father had changed his last name from Pereira 
to Perry.  That would be a "break" in the paper trail and was sufficient to 
deny my application.  Fortunately, I had a document from 1938 when my father 
legally changed his name using his two brothers as witnesses.  The San 
Francisco Consulate was a bit reluctant to accept anything that old and in fact 
they had rejected my father's birth certificate from the Azores also acquired 
in 1938 so I had to get a more recent copy.  Anyway, they sent everything off 
to Lisbon and someone in Lisbon apparently was happy with the name change 
document and approved my application.
My son had applied before I did in New York and was told he had to learn the 
language, etc., etc.  I applied in San Francisco with no such requirement - 
just submit the papers and pay the money.  After I received my citizenship, I 
sent my paper trail along with my Lisbon acceptance to my son in New York who 
was then able to sail through with no additional requirements and he received 
his citizenship in just a few weeks.  
David   

On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:28 AM, Phil Lopes  
wrote:
 

 I secured dual citizenship several years ago and it took 5+ years but the 
offer for second generation citizenship was new at the time. It seems the 
process now is less time consuming. My major stumbling block was that since I 
had lived in three countries, I had to secure police reports from each which 
was impossible. The block was only overcome by the Portuguese Consul General in 
San Francisco securing a waiver of this requirement for me.Phil Lopes

On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote:
Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual 
citizenship?
Obrigado,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

2017-01-10 Thread Marilyn Thompson
David how recent was this that you and your son applied?
My grandmother was born on Sao Jorge and came to the US. She married in
California, her 2 children were born there as was I a granddaughter.


On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 4:03 PM, David Perry 
wrote:

> Phil, my son used my citizenship paper trail and my confirmation of
> citizenship to secure his.  When he went to the NY Consulate before I
> applied, he was given very little encouragement and was told he needed to
> learn the language even though his grandfather was born in the Azores.
> After I got my citizenship through the San Francisco Consulate with no
> requirements except the paper trail, he took that information to the same
> consulate and was greeted with open arms with no language requirement and
> had his citizenship in just a few weeks.
> David
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:26 PM, Phil Lopes 
> wrote:
>
>
> David,
> I am curious, did your son secure citizenship as a result of your
> citizenship or did he have to go through the same process as you did?
> Thanks.
>
> *Phil Lopes*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:45 AM, David Perry 
> wrote:
>
> I too had a stumbling block - my father had changed his last name from
> Pereira to Perry.  That would be a "break" in the paper trail and was
> sufficient to deny my application.  Fortunately, I had a document from 1938
> when my father legally changed his name using his two brothers as
> witnesses.  The San Francisco Consulate was a bit reluctant to accept
> anything that old and in fact they had rejected my father's birth
> certificate from the Azores also acquired in 1938 so I had to get a more
> recent copy.  Anyway, they sent everything off to Lisbon and someone in
> Lisbon apparently was happy with the name change document and approved my
> application.
>
> My son had applied before I did in New York and was told he had to learn
> the language, etc., etc.  I applied in San Francisco with no such
> requirement - just submit the papers and pay the money.  After I received
> my citizenship, I sent my paper trail along with my Lisbon acceptance to my
> son in New York who was then able to sail through with no additional
> requirements and he received his citizenship in just a few weeks.
>
> David
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:28 AM, Phil Lopes 
> wrote:
>
>
> I secured dual citizenship several years ago and it took 5+ years but the
> offer for second generation citizenship was new at the time. It seems the
> process now is less time consuming. My major stumbling block was that since
> I had lived in three countries, I had to secure police reports from each
> which was impossible. The block was only overcome by the Portuguese Consul
> General in San Francisco securing a waiver of this requirement for me.
> Phil Lopes
>
> On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote:
>
> Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual
> citizenship?
>
> Obrigado,
>
> Colleen Wright
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

2017-01-10 Thread David Perry
Phil, my son used my citizenship paper trail and my confirmation of citizenship 
to secure his.  When he went to the NY Consulate before I applied, he was given 
very little encouragement and was told he needed to learn the language even 
though his grandfather was born in the Azores.  After I got my citizenship 
through the San Francisco Consulate with no requirements except the paper 
trail, he took that information to the same consulate and was greeted with open 
arms with no language requirement and had his citizenship in just a few weeks.  
David 

On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:26 PM, Phil Lopes  
wrote:
 

 David,I am curious, did your son secure citizenship as a result of your 
citizenship or did he have to go through the same process as you did?Thanks.
Phil Lopes 
  
  

   
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:45 AM, David Perry  wrote:

I too had a stumbling block - my father had changed his last name from Pereira 
to Perry.  That would be a "break" in the paper trail and was sufficient to 
deny my application.  Fortunately, I had a document from 1938 when my father 
legally changed his name using his two brothers as witnesses.  The San 
Francisco Consulate was a bit reluctant to accept anything that old and in fact 
they had rejected my father's birth certificate from the Azores also acquired 
in 1938 so I had to get a more recent copy.  Anyway, they sent everything off 
to Lisbon and someone in Lisbon apparently was happy with the name change 
document and approved my application.
My son had applied before I did in New York and was told he had to learn the 
language, etc., etc.  I applied in San Francisco with no such requirement - 
just submit the papers and pay the money.  After I received my citizenship, I 
sent my paper trail along with my Lisbon acceptance to my son in New York who 
was then able to sail through with no additional requirements and he received 
his citizenship in just a few weeks.  
David   

On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:28 AM, Phil Lopes  
wrote:
 

 I secured dual citizenship several years ago and it took 5+ years but the 
offer for second generation citizenship was new at the time. It seems the 
process now is less time consuming. My major stumbling block was that since I 
had lived in three countries, I had to secure police reports from each which 
was impossible. The block was only overcome by the Portuguese Consul General in 
San Francisco securing a waiver of this requirement for me.Phil Lopes

On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote:
Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual 
citizenship?
Obrigado,
Colleen Wright
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

2017-01-10 Thread Phil Lopes
David,
I am curious, did your son secure citizenship as a result of your
citizenship or did he have to go through the same process as you did?
Thanks.

*Phil Lopes*











On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:45 AM, David Perry 
wrote:

> I too had a stumbling block - my father had changed his last name from
> Pereira to Perry.  That would be a "break" in the paper trail and was
> sufficient to deny my application.  Fortunately, I had a document from 1938
> when my father legally changed his name using his two brothers as
> witnesses.  The San Francisco Consulate was a bit reluctant to accept
> anything that old and in fact they had rejected my father's birth
> certificate from the Azores also acquired in 1938 so I had to get a more
> recent copy.  Anyway, they sent everything off to Lisbon and someone in
> Lisbon apparently was happy with the name change document and approved my
> application.
>
> My son had applied before I did in New York and was told he had to learn
> the language, etc., etc.  I applied in San Francisco with no such
> requirement - just submit the papers and pay the money.  After I received
> my citizenship, I sent my paper trail along with my Lisbon acceptance to my
> son in New York who was then able to sail through with no additional
> requirements and he received his citizenship in just a few weeks.
>
> David
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:28 AM, Phil Lopes 
> wrote:
>
>
> I secured dual citizenship several years ago and it took 5+ years but the
> offer for second generation citizenship was new at the time. It seems the
> process now is less time consuming. My major stumbling block was that since
> I had lived in three countries, I had to secure police reports from each
> which was impossible. The block was only overcome by the Portuguese Consul
> General in San Francisco securing a waiver of this requirement for me.
> Phil Lopes
>
> On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote:
>
> Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual
> citizenship?
>
> Obrigado,
>
> Colleen Wright
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

2017-01-10 Thread Phil Lopes
I am a grandchild, parents born in US, grandparents in Portugal.

A language test was required, reading, writing, and speaking. I was
required to travel to San Jose State University an official testing center,
to have the language test.

Since, as I said in my previous email I secured citizenship a few years
ago, the requirements may have changed.

Hope this helps.

*Phil Lopes*











On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:22 PM, nancy jean baptiste <
fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> It's my understanding that if you are a grandchild and your parent was
> born in the U.S. that you need the language exam. I'd like to know if that
> is not the case if anyone knows!
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nancy Jean
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> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Cheri Mello 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:29:44 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship
>
> It sounds like the children or grandchildren don't need the language
> requirement, but greats onwards do.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> So am I understanding that you are not required to have a knowledge of
>> the language to get dual citizenship?
>> That is my limiting factor.
>>
>> Marilyn Thompson
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:45 AM, David Perry 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I too had a stumbling block - my father had changed his last name from
>>> Pereira to Perry.  That would be a "break" in the paper trail and was
>>> sufficient to deny my application.  Fortunately, I had a document from 1938
>>> when my father legally changed his name using his two brothers as
>>> witnesses.  The San Francisco Consulate was a bit reluctant to accept
>>> anything that old and in fact they had rejected my father's birth
>>> certificate from the Azores also acquired in 1938 so I had to get a more
>>> recent copy.  Anyway, they sent everything off to Lisbon and someone in
>>> Lisbon apparently was happy with the name change document and approved my
>>> application.
>>>
>>> My son had applied before I did in New York and was told he had to learn
>>> the language, etc., etc.  I applied in San Francisco with no such
>>> requirement - just submit the papers and pay the money.  After I received
>>> my citizenship, I sent my paper trail along with my Lisbon acceptance to my
>>> son in New York who was then able to sail through with no additional
>>> requirements and he received his citizenship in just a few weeks.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:28 AM, Phil Lopes 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I secured dual citizenship several years ago and it took 5+ years but
>>> the offer for second generation citizenship was new at the time. It seems
>>> the process now is less time consuming. My major stumbling block was that
>>> since I had lived in three countries, I had to secure police reports from
>>> each which was impossible. The block was only overcome by the Portuguese
>>> Consul General in San Francisco securing a waiver of this requirement for
>>> me.
>>> Phil Lopes
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote:
>>>
>>> Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual
>>> citizenship?
>>>
>>> Obrigado,
>>>
>>> Colleen Wright
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

2017-01-10 Thread David Perry
I didn't and neither did my son though he has since learned some Portuguese.  I 
don't know what the language requirements are if your Portuguese ancestor is a 
great grandparent or beyond.  David  

On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 12:30 PM, Cheri Mello  
wrote:
 

 It sounds like the children or grandchildren don't need the language 
requirement, but greats onwards do.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Marilyn Thompson  wrote:

So am I understanding that you are not required to have a knowledge of the 
language to get dual citizenship?That is my limiting factor. 
Marilyn Thompson
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:45 AM, David Perry  wrote:

I too had a stumbling block - my father had changed his last name from Pereira 
to Perry.  That would be a "break" in the paper trail and was sufficient to 
deny my application.  Fortunately, I had a document from 1938 when my father 
legally changed his name using his two brothers as witnesses.  The San 
Francisco Consulate was a bit reluctant to accept anything that old and in fact 
they had rejected my father's birth certificate from the Azores also acquired 
in 1938 so I had to get a more recent copy.  Anyway, they sent everything off 
to Lisbon and someone in Lisbon apparently was happy with the name change 
document and approved my application.
My son had applied before I did in New York and was told he had to learn the 
language, etc., etc.  I applied in San Francisco with no such requirement - 
just submit the papers and pay the money.  After I received my citizenship, I 
sent my paper trail along with my Lisbon acceptance to my son in New York who 
was then able to sail through with no additional requirements and he received 
his citizenship in just a few weeks.  
David   

On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:28 AM, Phil Lopes  
wrote:
 

 I secured dual citizenship several years ago and it took 5+ years but the 
offer for second generation citizenship was new at the time. It seems the 
process now is less time consuming. My major stumbling block was that since I 
had lived in three countries, I had to secure police reports from each which 
was impossible. The block was only overcome by the Portuguese Consul General in 
San Francisco securing a waiver of this requirement for me.Phil Lopes

On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote:
Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual 
citizenship?
Obrigado,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

2017-01-10 Thread nancy jean baptiste
It's my understanding that if you are a grandchild and your parent was born in 
the U.S. that you need the language exam. I'd like to know if that is not the 
case if anyone knows!


Thanks,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Cheri 
Mello 
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:29:44 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

It sounds like the children or grandchildren don't need the language 
requirement, but greats onwards do.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: S?o Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
mailto:mari...@jmtmlt.com>> wrote:
So am I understanding that you are not required to have a knowledge of the 
language to get dual citizenship?
That is my limiting factor.

Marilyn Thompson

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:45 AM, David Perry 
mailto:djperr...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
I too had a stumbling block - my father had changed his last name from Pereira 
to Perry.  That would be a "break" in the paper trail and was sufficient to 
deny my application.  Fortunately, I had a document from 1938 when my father 
legally changed his name using his two brothers as witnesses.  The San 
Francisco Consulate was a bit reluctant to accept anything that old and in fact 
they had rejected my father's birth certificate from the Azores also acquired 
in 1938 so I had to get a more recent copy.  Anyway, they sent everything off 
to Lisbon and someone in Lisbon apparently was happy with the name change 
document and approved my application.

My son had applied before I did in New York and was told he had to learn the 
language, etc., etc.  I applied in San Francisco with no such requirement - 
just submit the papers and pay the money.  After I received my citizenship, I 
sent my paper trail along with my Lisbon acceptance to my son in New York who 
was then able to sail through with no additional requirements and he received 
his citizenship in just a few weeks.

David


On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:28 AM, Phil Lopes 
mailto:lopesp...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I secured dual citizenship several years ago and it took 5+ years but the offer 
for second generation citizenship was new at the time. It seems the process now 
is less time consuming. My major stumbling block was that since I had lived in 
three countries, I had to secure police reports from each which was impossible. 
The block was only overcome by the Portuguese Consul General in San Francisco 
securing a waiver of this requirement for me.
Phil Lopes

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Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual 
citizenship?

Obrigado,

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

2017-01-10 Thread Cheri Mello
It sounds like the children or grandchildren don't need the language
requirement, but greats onwards do.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Marilyn Thompson 
wrote:

> So am I understanding that you are not required to have a knowledge of the
> language to get dual citizenship?
> That is my limiting factor.
>
> Marilyn Thompson
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:45 AM, David Perry 
> wrote:
>
>> I too had a stumbling block - my father had changed his last name from
>> Pereira to Perry.  That would be a "break" in the paper trail and was
>> sufficient to deny my application.  Fortunately, I had a document from 1938
>> when my father legally changed his name using his two brothers as
>> witnesses.  The San Francisco Consulate was a bit reluctant to accept
>> anything that old and in fact they had rejected my father's birth
>> certificate from the Azores also acquired in 1938 so I had to get a more
>> recent copy.  Anyway, they sent everything off to Lisbon and someone in
>> Lisbon apparently was happy with the name change document and approved my
>> application.
>>
>> My son had applied before I did in New York and was told he had to learn
>> the language, etc., etc.  I applied in San Francisco with no such
>> requirement - just submit the papers and pay the money.  After I received
>> my citizenship, I sent my paper trail along with my Lisbon acceptance to my
>> son in New York who was then able to sail through with no additional
>> requirements and he received his citizenship in just a few weeks.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:28 AM, Phil Lopes 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I secured dual citizenship several years ago and it took 5+ years but the
>> offer for second generation citizenship was new at the time. It seems the
>> process now is less time consuming. My major stumbling block was that since
>> I had lived in three countries, I had to secure police reports from each
>> which was impossible. The block was only overcome by the Portuguese Consul
>> General in San Francisco securing a waiver of this requirement for me.
>> Phil Lopes
>>
>> On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual
>> citizenship?
>>
>> Obrigado,
>>
>> Colleen Wright
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

2017-01-10 Thread Marilyn Thompson
So am I understanding that you are not required to have a knowledge of the
language to get dual citizenship?
That is my limiting factor.

Marilyn Thompson

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:45 AM, David Perry 
wrote:

> I too had a stumbling block - my father had changed his last name from
> Pereira to Perry.  That would be a "break" in the paper trail and was
> sufficient to deny my application.  Fortunately, I had a document from 1938
> when my father legally changed his name using his two brothers as
> witnesses.  The San Francisco Consulate was a bit reluctant to accept
> anything that old and in fact they had rejected my father's birth
> certificate from the Azores also acquired in 1938 so I had to get a more
> recent copy.  Anyway, they sent everything off to Lisbon and someone in
> Lisbon apparently was happy with the name change document and approved my
> application.
>
> My son had applied before I did in New York and was told he had to learn
> the language, etc., etc.  I applied in San Francisco with no such
> requirement - just submit the papers and pay the money.  After I received
> my citizenship, I sent my paper trail along with my Lisbon acceptance to my
> son in New York who was then able to sail through with no additional
> requirements and he received his citizenship in just a few weeks.
>
> David
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:28 AM, Phil Lopes 
> wrote:
>
>
> I secured dual citizenship several years ago and it took 5+ years but the
> offer for second generation citizenship was new at the time. It seems the
> process now is less time consuming. My major stumbling block was that since
> I had lived in three countries, I had to secure police reports from each
> which was impossible. The block was only overcome by the Portuguese Consul
> General in San Francisco securing a waiver of this requirement for me.
> Phil Lopes
>
> On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote:
>
> Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual
> citizenship?
>
> Obrigado,
>
> Colleen Wright
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

2017-01-10 Thread David Perry
I too had a stumbling block - my father had changed his last name from Pereira 
to Perry.  That would be a "break" in the paper trail and was sufficient to 
deny my application.  Fortunately, I had a document from 1938 when my father 
legally changed his name using his two brothers as witnesses.  The San 
Francisco Consulate was a bit reluctant to accept anything that old and in fact 
they had rejected my father's birth certificate from the Azores also acquired 
in 1938 so I had to get a more recent copy.  Anyway, they sent everything off 
to Lisbon and someone in Lisbon apparently was happy with the name change 
document and approved my application.
My son had applied before I did in New York and was told he had to learn the 
language, etc., etc.  I applied in San Francisco with no such requirement - 
just submit the papers and pay the money.  After I received my citizenship, I 
sent my paper trail along with my Lisbon acceptance to my son in New York who 
was then able to sail through with no additional requirements and he received 
his citizenship in just a few weeks.  
David   

On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:28 AM, Phil Lopes  
wrote:
 

 I secured dual citizenship several years ago and it took 5+ years but the 
offer for second generation citizenship was new at the time. It seems the 
process now is less time consuming. My major stumbling block was that since I 
had lived in three countries, I had to secure police reports from each which 
was impossible. The block was only overcome by the Portuguese Consul General in 
San Francisco securing a waiver of this requirement for me.Phil Lopes

On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote:
Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual 
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Obrigado,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

2017-01-10 Thread Phil Lopes
I secured dual citizenship several years ago and it took 5+ years but the 
offer for second generation citizenship was new at the time. It seems the 
process now is less time consuming. My major stumbling block was that since 
I had lived in three countries, I had to secure police reports from each 
which was impossible. The block was only overcome by the Portuguese Consul 
General in San Francisco securing a waiver of this requirement for me.
Phil Lopes

On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 1:51:44 PM UTC-7, Colleen Wright wrote:
>
> Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual 
> citizenship?
>
> Obrigado,
>
> Colleen Wright
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Dual Citizenship

2017-01-09 Thread David Perry
I did it and how easy depends on a few things.  If you have a parent or 
grandparent (I don't think it extends beyond grandparents but I may be 
wrong) born in Portugal (including Azores, etc.), the Portuguese government 
already views you as a citizen whether you know it or not.  All you need do 
is establish a paper link to your ancestor using birth certificates, 
marriage licenses, etc.  The fees are around a few hundred dollars and it 
took me about six months to complete.  It helps if you have a Portuguese 
Consulate nearby to do things in person rather than by mail.  If you don't 
have a parent or grandparent born in Portugal, it's much more difficult.  
You would be applying for citizenship as an Naturalized Citizen and you 
would have to go through much the same hoops that someone applying for US 
citizenship would have to do - learn the language, pass a test, I think 
there's a residency requirement as well. 
David 

On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 12:51:44 PM UTC-8, Colleen Wright wrote:

> Has anyone done this and how difficult of a process was getting Dual 
> citizenship?
>
> Obrigado,
>
> Colleen Wright
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