[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Immigrant Hostelry record from Sao Paulo Brazil

2014-10-29 Thread Sergio Cominatto
Hi Erica. I am sure that "Capital", in the context refers to São Paulo 
City, the capital of São Paulo State (São Paulo Province before 1889). 

Sergio Cominatto

São Paulo, Brazil


On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 2:28:21 AM UTC-2, audiosourceinc wrote:
>
> I am wondering if someone on this list has experience with the Immigrant 
> Hostelry Records from Sao Paulo, Brazil.  My husband’s 4th G-grandmother 
> and her youngest son are lines #14821 and 14822 on the attached record.  As 
> I read this record, their destination place was “Capital”. Does anyone know 
> if “Capital” is referring to Rio de Janeiro, which I believe was the 
> capital of Brazil at that time?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Erica Botelho
>
> Vancouver, Washington
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Immigrant Hostelry record from Sao Paulo Brazil

2014-10-29 Thread Isabella Baltar
Erica,

São Paulo state had up to eight Hospedarias where immigrants, most of the 
time, stayed until they were transferred to another place where he/family 
was going work for. You have the record of one of the Hospedarias, I'm 
curious which one is. 

Rio de Janeiro had its own Hospedarias, so if this is a São Paulo 
Hospedaria, it makes sense that Capital is the capital of São Paulo estate, 
which is also named São Paulo. 

Isabella Baltar
myportuguesegen.BlogSpot.com



On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:28:21 AM UTC-4, audiosourceinc wrote:

> I am wondering if someone on this list has experience with the Immigrant 
> Hostelry Records from Sao Paulo, Brazil.  My husband’s 4th G-grandmother 
> and her youngest son are lines #14821 and 14822 on the attached record.  As 
> I read this record, their destination place was “Capital”. Does anyone know 
> if “Capital” is referring to Rio de Janeiro, which I believe was the 
> capital of Brazil at that time?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Erica Botelho
>
> Vancouver, Washington
>

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Immigrant Hostelry record from Sao Paulo Brazil

2014-10-29 Thread Erica Botelho
Isabella,

According to Ancestry.com the Hospedarias that I have is from Sao Paulo.  

I am anxious to research this adventurous lady. She was a 49 year old widow who 
took her 13 year old son from Madeira to Brazil.  I have not yet found a 
relative that was already in Brazil, although I am sure there must have been 
someone. My husband descends from her daughter, whom emigrated to Hawaii when 
she married. We are looking forward to finding relatives in Brazil!

Erica

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Isabella Baltar
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:28 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Immigrant Hostelry record from Sao 
Paulo Brazil

 

Erica,

 

São Paulo state had up to eight Hospedarias where immigrants, most of the time, 
stayed until they were transferred to another place where he/family was going 
work for. You have the record of one of the Hospedarias, I'm curious which one 
is. 

 

Rio de Janeiro had its own Hospedarias, so if this is a São Paulo Hospedaria, 
it makes sense that Capital is the capital of São Paulo estate, which is also 
named São Paulo. 

 

Isabella Baltar

myportuguesegen.BlogSpot.com

 



On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:28:21 AM UTC-4, audiosourceinc wrote:

I am wondering if someone on this list has experience with the Immigrant 
Hostelry Records from Sao Paulo, Brazil.  My husband’s 4th G-grandmother and 
her youngest son are lines #14821 and 14822 on the attached record.  As I read 
this record, their destination place was “Capital”. Does anyone know if 
“Capital” is referring to Rio de Janeiro, which I believe was the capital of 
Brazil at that time?

Thank you,

Erica Botelho

Vancouver, Washington

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Immigrant Hostelry record from Sao Paulo Brazil

2014-10-30 Thread Isabella Baltar
Erica,

I read lines #14821 and 14822 and there is no last name, how do you know 
these are the family members you are looking for? I don't see any other 
information on them. Do you have any other document related to this one 
with matching dates? 

Isabella Baltar
myportuguesegen.blogspot.com

On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, audiosourceinc wrote:

> Isabella,
>
> According to Ancestry.com the Hospedarias that I have is from Sao Paulo.  
>
> I am anxious to research this adventurous lady. She was a 49 year old 
> widow who took her 13 year old son from Madeira to Brazil.  I have not yet 
> found a relative that was already in Brazil, although I am sure there must 
> have been someone. My husband descends from her daughter, whom emigrated to 
> Hawaii when she married. We are looking forward to finding relatives in 
> Brazil!
>
> Erica
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Isabella Baltar
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:28 PM
> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Immigrant Hostelry record 
> from Sao Paulo Brazil
>
>  
>
> Erica,
>
>  
>
> São Paulo state had up to eight Hospedarias where immigrants, most of the 
> time, stayed until they were transferred to another place where he/family 
> was going work for. You have the record of one of the Hospedarias, I'm 
> curious which one is. 
>
>  
>
> Rio de Janeiro had its own Hospedarias, so if this is a São Paulo 
> Hospedaria, it makes sense that Capital is the capital of São Paulo estate, 
> which is also named São Paulo. 
>
>  
>
> Isabella Baltar
>
> myportuguesegen.BlogSpot.com
>
>  
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:28:21 AM UTC-4, audiosourceinc wrote:
>
> I am wondering if someone on this list has experience with the Immigrant 
> Hostelry Records from Sao Paulo, Brazil.  My husband’s 4th G-grandmother 
> and her youngest son are lines #14821 and 14822 on the attached record.  As 
> I read this record, their destination place was “Capital”. Does anyone know 
> if “Capital” is referring to Rio de Janeiro, which I believe was the 
> capital of Brazil at that time?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Erica Botelho
>
> Vancouver, Washington
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Immigrant Hostelry record from Sao Paulo Brazil

2014-10-30 Thread Erica Botelho
Maria de Jesus and Domingos (child) 1885 Passport Application.jpg

This is the information I found in the Madeira database and it is all I have. I 
don’t know for sure that the people in the Hostelry record are the correct 
family members. They are good candidates at this point because they fit the 
profile.

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Isabella Baltar
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:24 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Immigrant Hostelry record from 
Sao Paulo Brazil

 

Erica,

 

I read lines #14821 and 14822 and there is no last name, how do you know these 
are the family members you are looking for? I don't see any other information 
on them. Do you have any other document related to this one with matching 
dates? 

 

Isabella Baltar

myportuguesegen.blogspot.com

On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 3:43:51 PM UTC-4, audiosourceinc wrote:

Isabella,

According to Ancestry.com the Hospedarias that I have is from Sao Paulo.  

I am anxious to research this adventurous lady. She was a 49 year old widow who 
took her 13 year old son from Madeira to Brazil.  I have not yet found a 
relative that was already in Brazil, although I am sure there must have been 
someone. My husband descends from her daughter, whom emigrated to Hawaii when 
she married. We are looking forward to finding relatives in Brazil!

Erica

 

From: azo...@googlegroups.com   [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Isabella Baltar
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:28 PM
To: azo...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Immigrant Hostelry record from Sao 
Paulo Brazil

 

Erica,

 

São Paulo state had up to eight Hospedarias where immigrants, most of the time, 
stayed until they were transferred to another place where he/family was going 
work for. You have the record of one of the Hospedarias, I'm curious which one 
is. 

 

Rio de Janeiro had its own Hospedarias, so if this is a São Paulo Hospedaria, 
it makes sense that Capital is the capital of São Paulo estate, which is also 
named São Paulo. 

 

Isabella Baltar

myportuguesegen.BlogSpot.com

 



On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 12:28:21 AM UTC-4, audiosourceinc wrote:

I am wondering if someone on this list has experience with the Immigrant 
Hostelry Records from Sao Paulo, Brazil.  My husband’s 4th G-grandmother and 
her youngest son are lines #14821 and 14822 on the attached record.  As I read 
this record, their destination place was “Capital”. Does anyone know if 
“Capital” is referring to Rio de Janeiro, which I believe was the capital of 
Brazil at that time?

Thank you,

Erica Botelho

Vancouver, Washington

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Immigrant Hostelry record from Sao Paulo Brazil

2014-10-30 Thread Cheri Mello
Repost for Isabella Baltar, myportuguesegen at gmail.com

Erica,

Erica,

Here is saying that they were going to Rio de Janeiro. I don't have access
to research on Ancestry website, but if I were you, I would go back to the
first page of the book record and make sure that it really belongs to a São
Paulo hospedaria. If you can send me the photo I will take a look for you.
Ancestry may have done a mistake when indexing the book.

The Portuguese immigration in Rio de Janeiro was massive at the time, much
more than in São Paulo. Let me know if you can see the first page of this
Hospedaria, so we will make sure it belongs to SP. They may also had
stopped at Santos port, in São Paulo, stayed at the  hospedaria and then
went to Rio de Janeiro, which I think the probabilities are very low, as
Rio de Janeiro port is just above Santos port.

Isabella Baltar

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