[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Impossible to read -almost

2014-04-18 Thread Dano
Staring at it won't help, no matter how young, or old, your eyes are - the 
ink has been washed away :) You could post it as baby girl, but, you've 
also got some info that you can use to try to give her a name. You clearly 
have a dob  baptism, which may help you find the child who may have died 
within the first couple of years, or, who may have grown to adulthood, and 
married (perhaps +/- 20 yrs later. A, research, isn't it great... :)
~~

On Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:00:45 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:

 Upper left page 
 Name of the child . I know the parents are Antonio Bottelho and Antonia de 
 Jesus but all I can figure out is the child is a girl.  I've tried staring 
 at it but my old eyes aren't seeing through the ink.  How would you enter 
 this?  Baby girl Bottelho (?) 

 Thank for looking. 



 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764_item1/P197.html
  

 Maria Elena 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Impossible to read -almost

2014-04-18 Thread Isabella Baltar
Maria Elena,

No one will be able to read the name of that child on that record as the 
document has a big loss on that corner. What you see is not ink washed out, 
it is a new piece of paper added in an effort to restore and give the 
original paper a more stable structure. Notice the other pages on that book 
and you will see the same pattern. Looking closer you can even see a glossy 
look, usually from kind of glassine paper that was used in earlier times to 
do restoration.

Isabella Baltar
myportuguesegen.blogspot.com

On Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:00:45 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:

 Upper left page 
 Name of the child . I know the parents are Antonio Bottelho and Antonia de 
 Jesus but all I can figure out is the child is a girl.  I've tried staring 
 at it but my old eyes aren't seeing through the ink.  How would you enter 
 this?  Baby girl Bottelho (?) 

 Thank for looking. 



 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764_item1/P197.html
  

 Maria Elena 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Impossible to read -almost

2014-04-18 Thread Marilyn Thompson
Does anyone know if the images on the CCA site are from the microfilmed
copies that the LDS Church made? Or have they (CCA) digitized their own
copy from the original records.
Just wondering if the repairs were made after the microfilmed copy. If
someone has access to the microfilmed copy at a Family History Center,
maybe they could check or ask someone at the Conference in Salt Lake to do
a quick check.

Just my thoughts




On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:26 AM, Isabella Baltar
myportuguese...@gmail.comwrote:

 Maria Elena,

 No one will be able to read the name of that child on that record as the
 document has a big loss on that corner. What you see is not ink washed out,
 it is a new piece of paper added in an effort to restore and give the
 original paper a more stable structure. Notice the other pages on that book
 and you will see the same pattern. Looking closer you can even see a glossy
 look, usually from kind of glassine paper that was used in earlier times to
 do restoration.

 Isabella Baltar
 myportuguesegen.blogspot.com

 On Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:00:45 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:

 Upper left page
 Name of the child . I know the parents are Antonio Bottelho and Antonia
 de Jesus but all I can figure out is the child is a girl.  I've tried
 staring at it but my old eyes aren't seeing through the ink.  How would you
 enter this?  Baby girl Bottelho (?)

 Thank for looking.


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764_item1/P197.html

 Maria Elena

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Impossible to read -almost

2014-04-18 Thread Isabella Baltar
Maria Elena,

All the original records from the Library and Archives from Angra do
Heroismo are digitized in loco, which means at the Library. After that,
they send the digitized images to the CCA who is responsible to upload the
images on the website.

I don't know if this is the same procedure for Ponta Delgada Library and
Archives, I believe so. Others from the list may answer this for you.

Isabella Baltar
myportuguesegen.blogspot.com




On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.comwrote:

 Does anyone know if the images on the CCA site are from the microfilmed
 copies that the LDS Church made? Or have they (CCA) digitized their own
 copy from the original records.
 Just wondering if the repairs were made after the microfilmed copy. If
 someone has access to the microfilmed copy at a Family History Center,
 maybe they could check or ask someone at the Conference in Salt Lake to do
 a quick check.

 Just my thoughts




 On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:26 AM, Isabella Baltar 
 myportuguese...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maria Elena,

 No one will be able to read the name of that child on that record as the
 document has a big loss on that corner. What you see is not ink washed out,
 it is a new piece of paper added in an effort to restore and give the
 original paper a more stable structure. Notice the other pages on that book
 and you will see the same pattern. Looking closer you can even see a glossy
 look, usually from kind of glassine paper that was used in earlier times to
 do restoration.

 Isabella Baltar
 myportuguesegen.blogspot.com

 On Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:00:45 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:

 Upper left page
 Name of the child . I know the parents are Antonio Bottelho and Antonia
 de Jesus but all I can figure out is the child is a girl.  I've tried
 staring at it but my old eyes aren't seeing through the ink.  How would you
 enter this?  Baby girl Bottelho (?)

 Thank for looking.


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764_item1/P197.html

 Maria Elena

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Impossible to read -almost

2014-04-18 Thread Cheri Mello
I thought Joāo Ventura said Ponta Delgada digitized from the film. There
are only about 10 people left at the Family History Library and no one was
checking email. So no one may read this in time.
Cheri, at the airport
On Apr 18, 2014 3:52 PM, Isabella Baltar myportuguese...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Maria Elena,

 All the original records from the Library and Archives from Angra do
 Heroismo are digitized in loco, which means at the Library. After that,
 they send the digitized images to the CCA who is responsible to upload the
 images on the website.

 I don't know if this is the same procedure for Ponta Delgada Library and
 Archives, I believe so. Others from the list may answer this for you.

 Isabella Baltar
 myportuguesegen.blogspot.com




 On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.comwrote:

 Does anyone know if the images on the CCA site are from the microfilmed
 copies that the LDS Church made? Or have they (CCA) digitized their own
 copy from the original records.
 Just wondering if the repairs were made after the microfilmed copy. If
 someone has access to the microfilmed copy at a Family History Center,
 maybe they could check or ask someone at the Conference in Salt Lake to do
 a quick check.

 Just my thoughts




 On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:26 AM, Isabella Baltar 
 myportuguese...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maria Elena,

 No one will be able to read the name of that child on that record as the
 document has a big loss on that corner. What you see is not ink washed out,
 it is a new piece of paper added in an effort to restore and give the
 original paper a more stable structure. Notice the other pages on that book
 and you will see the same pattern. Looking closer you can even see a glossy
 look, usually from kind of glassine paper that was used in earlier times to
 do restoration.

 Isabella Baltar
 myportuguesegen.blogspot.com

 On Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:00:45 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:

 Upper left page
 Name of the child . I know the parents are Antonio Bottelho and Antonia
 de Jesus but all I can figure out is the child is a girl.  I've tried
 staring at it but my old eyes aren't seeing through the ink.  How would you
 enter this?  Baby girl Bottelho (?)

 Thank for looking.


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764_item1/P197.html

 Maria Elena

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