So true, I had a Manuel born in 1863 and then his parents named another
Manuel in 1875 the first Manuel did not die until 1930 but the 2nd one died
a few months after being born.
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Antonio Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Kathy,
I'm just curious if you are the kathleen Cardoza that I match on family
finder does that line trace to Prainha Pico?
Antonio Faria
On Thursday, June 5, 2014 1:34:52 PM UTC-7, Kathy Cardoza wrote:
I thought I’d share something with the list, and maybe help someone along
the way …… We are always told to keep an open mind in genealogy, don’t have
preconceptions, and investigate every possibility in our search for the
truth. That lesson was brought home to me recently.
As background, my 3GG were Francisco Pereira da Rosa and Maria Delfina
who married and had their children in Flamengos, Faial. I found 8 children
for them as well as followed their ancestors back years ago. Child #1 was
my 2GG, Francisco Pereira da Rosa (we’ll call him Frank Jr.). More girls,
then Child #4 was a Manuel (we’ll call him Manuel #1). The rest were girls
until you got to child #8, another Manuel (we’ll call him Manuel #2). This
family emigrated to Washington Twp., Alameda Co. California and I have
documented them and their children forward in time. I had “assumed” all
these years, that Manuel #1 had died as a child or infant because Manuel #2
had married in CA and had 10 kids ….. I don’t think I ever searched for his
obito. So, fast forward to a couple of days ago …….
I was contacted by another researcher who, in the process of checking out
a match on FTDNA, realized that her match was related to my Rosa family. I
was skeptical at first because I thought this Manuel had died early and
didn’t ever have a family. Anyway, to shorten this story, after a search on
Ancestry, I found some descendants of this Manuel #1. None of these people
knew where Manuel was from or anything about his lineage. But, among their
sources, were obituaries on Manuel #1 and his siblings listed, including
married names, all matched up to my family!! Now, my 2GG, Frank Jr., always
used Rosa or later, Rose, as their surname as did Manuel #2….. all Roses.
This newfound Manuel #1 used the name of Rodgers, Manuel Pereira Rodgers,
and all his descendants are Rodgers, also! Now this “new” Manuel was
originally know as Manuel Pereira Rosa, just like his younger brother,
Manuel #2. He settled and lived in Petaluma, Sonoma Co., CA while his other
two brothers lived in Centerville and Alvarado in Alameda Co.
Another little interesting tidbit here is that some years ago, I
interviewed an older cousin of my grandmother. She was 90 years old then
but she told me there were some brothers who kept using Rosa and some that
used Rodgers. I investigated that, halfheartedly because, remember the two
brothers I knew of, used Rosa and the third one I had assumed to die early.
Hmmph! Well, I was sure wrong and now have a whole additional branch to my
Family Tree!
So, the moral of this little story is NOT to make assumptions. Usually
when there are more than two children born in a family with the same given
name, it means the first one died early. But, not always! It seems crazy to
me that that this family named two children both Manuel, but then they also
named two of their daughters Maria Delfina! And they both lived, married,
and had kids. So, you just never know! And, DNA does work and IS helpful!
If you haven’t submitted yours yet, get ‘er done! You never know what
connections you might find.
Kathy
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