[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: War in 1910's? about ggrandfather Jose Rego Vital from Lagoa, S. Miguel

2009-06-07 Thread IGGY1110

Yes I sent you an email to the danandmaria email. Thank you so much this 
is him!

Dan and Maria Moore wrote:
> Jesse,
>  
> I have re checked my copy of marriages for 1914, I have:
>  
> Joao do Rego Vital son of joao do Rego Vital e Helena de Jesus da 
> Costa, married to Maria dos Anjos da Costa Castelo daughter of Joao da 
> Costa Castelo e Maria da Conceicao
> ( both 24 years of age )  -married on 1 Oct 1913
>  
> /#12-1910 notes - (ele solteiro, empregado fabril, natural e seu pai 
> de St. Cruz, de idade de 24 anos, ela de 24 anos, testemunhas: Manule 
> do Rego Vital, casado, caiador e João do Rego Vital, camponio. So 
> assinou Maria dos Anjos porque os demais não saberem escrever)/
> // 
> I also have a record for jose do rego vital born in Santa Cruz on 24 
> Dec 1888 and babtised on 1 Jan 1889  I think they are the same person.
>  
> Do you want to contact me personally? 
>  
> Maria Moore
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: "IGGY1110" mailto:iggy1...@aol.com>>
> To: mailto:Azores@googlegroups.com>>
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 8:47 AM
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: War in 1910's? about ggrandfather Jose 
> Rego Vital from Lagoa, S. Miguel
>
>
> Wow, yes.
>
> His name was Jose as far as I know. He was my grandmother's maternal
> grandfather. I have them being married in 1913 or 1914. They were both
> born in Lagoa. Supposedly they immigrated in 1913 but I can't find any
> records.
>
> Jose's parents were Joao and Helena de Jesus Costa. Maria dos Anjos
> parents were Joao Costa Castelo and Maria Conceicao
> Zimbro/Zimbrilo/Simbro. I don't know what the true form of that last
> name is yet.
>
> Please email me, I believe this is a match.
>
> Dan and Maria Moore wrote:
> > Jesse,
> >
> > I do have a Joao do rego Vital married to Maria dos Anjos da costa 
> Castelo
> > in 1913.  Do you have any other info?
> >
> > Maria Moore
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jesse"  <mailto:pacheco.jess...@gmail.com>>
> > To: "Azores Genealogy"  <mailto:Azores@googlegroups.com>>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:18 PM
> > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] War in 1910's? about ggrandfather Jose Rego
> > Vital from Lagoa, S. Miguel
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi. My great-great grandfather was José Rego Vital (1889-1956). My
> > grandmother told me he came to America to escape a war. I was
> > wondering if anyone had any information about this because I haven't
> > heard anything else. He came over in 1913.
> >
> > Also, I cannot find immigration records for him or his wife Maria dos
> > Anjos Costa Costello. I don't know if they used fake names to come
> > over but I do believe his immigration was illegal. Does anyone know
> > anything about similar cases and how I could go about finding his
> > immigration information?
> >
> > I think he comes from a big family of Rego Vitals. I have found many
> > records on ancestry.com, especially draft cards, with RV's but I can
> > never decide whether it's one of his brothers or if it's a cousin.
> > There were many boys but few names; Jose, Manuel, Antonio, Joao,
> > Joaquim; I think we all know what that's like. ; )
> >
> > a photograph of him:
> > 
> http://o.mfcreative.com/f2/file11/objects/c/9/1/bc91434a-fb88-49df-a76b-eac809012699-0.jpg
> >
> > Thanks for reading this.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >  
>
>
>
>
> >



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: War in 1910's? about ggrandfather Jose Rego Vital from Lagoa, S. Miguel

2009-06-07 Thread Dan and Maria Moore
Jesse,

I have re checked my copy of marriages for 1914, I have:

Joao do Rego Vital son of joao do Rego Vital e Helena de Jesus da Costa, 
married to Maria dos Anjos da Costa Castelo daughter of Joao da Costa Castelo e 
Maria da Conceicao
( both 24 years of age )  -married on 1 Oct 1913 

#12-1910 notes - (ele solteiro, empregado fabril, natural e seu pai de St. 
Cruz, de idade de 24 anos, ela de 24 anos, testemunhas: Manule do Rego Vital, 
casado, caiador e João do Rego Vital, camponio. So assinou Maria dos Anjos 
porque os demais não saberem escrever)

I also have a record for jose do rego vital born in Santa Cruz on 24 Dec 1888 
and babtised on 1 Jan 1889  I think they are the same person.

Do you want to contact me personally? 

Maria Moore


- Original Message - 
From: "IGGY1110" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 8:47 AM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: War in 1910's? about ggrandfather Jose Rego 
Vital from Lagoa, S. Miguel



Wow, yes.

His name was Jose as far as I know. He was my grandmother's maternal 
grandfather. I have them being married in 1913 or 1914. They were both 
born in Lagoa. Supposedly they immigrated in 1913 but I can't find any 
records.

Jose's parents were Joao and Helena de Jesus Costa. Maria dos Anjos 
parents were Joao Costa Castelo and Maria Conceicao 
Zimbro/Zimbrilo/Simbro. I don't know what the true form of that last 
name is yet.

Please email me, I believe this is a match.

Dan and Maria Moore wrote:
> Jesse,
>
> I do have a Joao do rego Vital married to Maria dos Anjos da costa Castelo 
> in 1913.  Do you have any other info?
>
> Maria Moore
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jesse" 
> To: "Azores Genealogy" 
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:18 PM
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] War in 1910's? about ggrandfather Jose Rego 
> Vital from Lagoa, S. Miguel
>
>
>
> Hi. My great-great grandfather was José Rego Vital (1889-1956). My
> grandmother told me he came to America to escape a war. I was
> wondering if anyone had any information about this because I haven't
> heard anything else. He came over in 1913.
>
> Also, I cannot find immigration records for him or his wife Maria dos
> Anjos Costa Costello. I don't know if they used fake names to come
> over but I do believe his immigration was illegal. Does anyone know
> anything about similar cases and how I could go about finding his
> immigration information?
>
> I think he comes from a big family of Rego Vitals. I have found many
> records on ancestry.com, especially draft cards, with RV's but I can
> never decide whether it's one of his brothers or if it's a cousin.
> There were many boys but few names; Jose, Manuel, Antonio, Joao,
> Joaquim; I think we all know what that's like. ; )
>
> a photograph of him:
> http://o.mfcreative.com/f2/file11/objects/c/9/1/bc91434a-fb88-49df-a76b-eac809012699-0.jpg
>
> Thanks for reading this.
>
>
>
>
> >   





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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: War in 1910's? about ggrandfather Jose Rego Vital from Lagoa, S. Miguel

2009-06-07 Thread IGGY1110

Wow, yes.

His name was Jose as far as I know. He was my grandmother's maternal 
grandfather. I have them being married in 1913 or 1914. They were both 
born in Lagoa. Supposedly they immigrated in 1913 but I can't find any 
records.

Jose's parents were Joao and Helena de Jesus Costa. Maria dos Anjos 
parents were Joao Costa Castelo and Maria Conceicao 
Zimbro/Zimbrilo/Simbro. I don't know what the true form of that last 
name is yet.

Please email me, I believe this is a match.

Dan and Maria Moore wrote:
> Jesse,
>
> I do have a Joao do rego Vital married to Maria dos Anjos da costa Castelo 
> in 1913.  Do you have any other info?
>
> Maria Moore
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jesse" 
> To: "Azores Genealogy" 
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:18 PM
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] War in 1910's? about ggrandfather Jose Rego 
> Vital from Lagoa, S. Miguel
>
>
>
> Hi. My great-great grandfather was José Rego Vital (1889-1956). My
> grandmother told me he came to America to escape a war. I was
> wondering if anyone had any information about this because I haven't
> heard anything else. He came over in 1913.
>
> Also, I cannot find immigration records for him or his wife Maria dos
> Anjos Costa Costello. I don't know if they used fake names to come
> over but I do believe his immigration was illegal. Does anyone know
> anything about similar cases and how I could go about finding his
> immigration information?
>
> I think he comes from a big family of Rego Vitals. I have found many
> records on ancestry.com, especially draft cards, with RV's but I can
> never decide whether it's one of his brothers or if it's a cousin.
> There were many boys but few names; Jose, Manuel, Antonio, Joao,
> Joaquim; I think we all know what that's like. ; )
>
> a photograph of him:
> http://o.mfcreative.com/f2/file11/objects/c/9/1/bc91434a-fb88-49df-a76b-eac809012699-0.jpg
>
> Thanks for reading this.
>
>
>
>
> >   



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: War in 1910's? about ggrandfather Jose Rego Vital from Lagoa, S. Miguel

2009-06-07 Thread Dan and Maria Moore

Jesse,

I do have a Joao do rego Vital married to Maria dos Anjos da costa Castelo 
in 1913.  Do you have any other info?

Maria Moore
- Original Message - 
From: "Jesse" 
To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:18 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] War in 1910's? about ggrandfather Jose Rego 
Vital from Lagoa, S. Miguel



Hi. My great-great grandfather was José Rego Vital (1889-1956). My
grandmother told me he came to America to escape a war. I was
wondering if anyone had any information about this because I haven't
heard anything else. He came over in 1913.

Also, I cannot find immigration records for him or his wife Maria dos
Anjos Costa Costello. I don't know if they used fake names to come
over but I do believe his immigration was illegal. Does anyone know
anything about similar cases and how I could go about finding his
immigration information?

I think he comes from a big family of Rego Vitals. I have found many
records on ancestry.com, especially draft cards, with RV's but I can
never decide whether it's one of his brothers or if it's a cousin.
There were many boys but few names; Jose, Manuel, Antonio, Joao,
Joaquim; I think we all know what that's like. ; )

a photograph of him:
http://o.mfcreative.com/f2/file11/objects/c/9/1/bc91434a-fb88-49df-a76b-eac809012699-0.jpg

Thanks for reading this.




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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: War in 1910's? about ggrandfather Jose Rego Vital from Lagoa, S. Miguel

2009-06-06 Thread Ginger

Hello Maria Sousa,

Thank you for your post.  It reminds me of what I over heard as a
child.   My dad (born in th USA 1917)  had said that his ancestor
'family' had been well to do in the Azores.   There was a some sort of
political overthrow that caused the remaining family members in the
Azores to be rendered financially ruined.

Unfortunately, I don't know the details.   Perhaps, once the political
coup occured in Mainland Portugal, it spread to the Azores.   At that
time, wasn't the Azores still considered part of Portugal?   In other
words, the Azores wasn't an autonomous region at that time, was
it?

I apologize for my lack of Portuguese history.  I am third generation
American and my parents never shared family history directly with us
children.

Ginger

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: War in 1910's? about ggrandfather Jose Rego Vital from Lagoa, S. Miguel

2009-06-06 Thread Maria Sousa
I don't know much about Portuguese history, but your post made me think.
 
My family originates from the north of Portugal in Valenca do Minho.  It 
borders the Galicia border of Spain.  My grandmother used to tell me her 
stories.  She was born in 1900.  Her father was all for the monarchy and around 
1910, 1911, the monarchy ended.  Her father, my g-grandfather was devastated.  
She remembers when she was a young teenager, she could hear the cannons and how 
many soldiers went off to battle.  I don't know if this was about some sort of 
revolution that took the monarchy down or if they were battling with Spain, but 
the dates match with Jesse's.  
 
I also don't know how the monarchy affected the Azores, but many men were 
probably called to battle.
 
Maria Sousa
 


--- On Sat, 6/6/09, Jesse  wrote:


From: Jesse 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] War in 1910's? about ggrandfather Jose Rego Vital 
from Lagoa, S. Miguel
To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 1:18 PM



Hi. My great-great grandfather was José Rego Vital (1889-1956). My
grandmother told me he came to America to escape a war. I was
wondering if anyone had any information about this because I haven't
heard anything else. He came over in 1913.

Also, I cannot find immigration records for him or his wife Maria dos
Anjos Costa Costello. I don't know if they used fake names to come
over but I do believe his immigration was illegal. Does anyone know
anything about similar cases and how I could go about finding his
immigration information?

I think he comes from a big family of Rego Vitals. I have found many
records on ancestry.com, especially draft cards, with RV's but I can
never decide whether it's one of his brothers or if it's a cousin.
There were many boys but few names; Jose, Manuel, Antonio, Joao,
Joaquim; I think we all know what that's like. ; )

a photograph of him:
http://o.mfcreative.com/f2/file11/objects/c/9/1/bc91434a-fb88-49df-a76b-eac809012699-0.jpg

Thanks for reading this.



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: War in 1910's? about ggrandfather Jose Rego Vital from Lagoa, S. Miguel

2009-06-06 Thread Cheri Mello
P.S.  If you are certain the year is 1913, most people from Lagoa, Sao
Miguel island would have left from Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel island.  Those
records are online at the CCA web site (use IE or Safari):
http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/passaportes/default.aspx?divisao=3
-- 
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: War in 1910's? about ggrandfather Jose Rego Vital from Lagoa, S. Miguel

2009-06-06 Thread Cheri Mello
I think WWI was 1914-1918 or so.  How did he know there would be a World War
the following year?

I don't think you could use fake names to come over.  Even people who tried
to sneak onto the boat were caught.  Two good books on migration to America
are John P. Colletta's "They Came In Ships" and Michael Teppers's "American
Passenger Arrival Records."  See if your local library has them.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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