Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Starting the search of my ancestors
Ola cara prima Sandra In a message dated 12/28/2013 6:56:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, acore...@gmail.com writes: My Valim ancestors are Pereira Valim from Lajes doPico, Pico, Acores. Hi cousin Marie Sandra Valine Dauer On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 2:59 PM, _pico@dholmes.com_ (mailto:p...@dholmes.com) wrote: Hi Marie, I am certain we connect that way, but the records don's allow us to know just how. It is a little surprising just how numerous these Valim branches are. There are so many of them in the Piedade area. Mine are Gonçalves Valim. Yours are Rodrigues Valim, if I recall. I think Sandra's are Pereira Valim and they are from Ribeirinha, which used to be part of Piedade. I am going by memory, so I might be off a little with the name combinations. I also have Valim from Santo Amaro, next door to Ribeirinha. Calheta de Nesquim has many Valim lines, as does Lajes do Pico. Many appear in Ribeiras, too. And they are found in most of the other villages, though usually coming from the east end of Pico. Did you get that long analysis of our DNA match I sent a couple weeks back? Happy New Year! Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist _916-550-1618_ (tel:916-550-1618) _www.dholmes.com_ (http://www.dholmes.com/) Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Starting the search of my ancestors From: _Seekgene@aol.com_ (mailto:seekg...@aol.com) Date: Fri, December 27, 2013 3:50 pm To: _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) Doug, I am also related to the Valim's. I am fifth cousin to Sandra Kay Valen, daughter of Clarence Vieira Valim of Tulare, and son of Manuel Vieira Valim, born in Lajes, Pico in 1879 and Carolina Alves Vieira, born in 1893 in Lajes, Pico. Are these the same Valim's in your line or is this a different line? Marie Pleasant In a message dated 12/27/2013 2:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, _pico@dholmes.com_ (mailto:p...@dholmes.com) writes: Hello Jeff, If you tell me the full names of the ancestors you know so far, that might be a decent clue. I know I have people in my database that came from Pico and settled in Viamao. And I am pretty sure of the same for people in Terceira. Off the top of my head, I think I am related to any of the people named Valim who settled in Viamao. They came from Pico, Piedade to be specific. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to _azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . To post to this group, send email to _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Starting the search of my ancestors
My Valim ancestors are Pereira Valim from Lajes doPico, Pico, Acores. Hi cousin Marie Sandra Valine Dauer On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 2:59 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Hi Marie, I am certain we connect that way, but the records don's allow us to know just how. It is a little surprising just how numerous these Valim branches are. There are so many of them in the Piedade area. Mine are Gonçalves Valim. Yours are Rodrigues Valim, if I recall. I think Sandra's are Pereira Valim and they are from Ribeirinha, which used to be part of Piedade. I am going by memory, so I might be off a little with the name combinations. I also have Valim from Santo Amaro, next door to Ribeirinha. Calheta de Nesquim has many Valim lines, as does Lajes do Pico. Many appear in Ribeiras, too. And they are found in most of the other villages, though usually coming from the east end of Pico. Did you get that long analysis of our DNA match I sent a couple weeks back? Happy New Year! Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Starting the search of my ancestors From: seekg...@aol.com Date: Fri, December 27, 2013 3:50 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Doug, I am also related to the Valim's. I am fifth cousin to Sandra Kay Valen, daughter of Clarence Vieira Valim of Tulare, and son of Manuel Vieira Valim, born in Lajes, Pico in 1879 and Carolina Alves Vieira, born in 1893 in Lajes, Pico. Are these the same Valim's in your line or is this a different line? Marie Pleasant In a message dated 12/27/2013 2:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, p...@dholmes.com writes: Hello Jeff, If you tell me the full names of the ancestors you know so far, that might be a decent clue. I know I have people in my database that came from Pico and settled in Viamao. And I am pretty sure of the same for people in Terceira. Off the top of my head, I think I am related to any of the people named Valim who settled in Viamao. They came from Pico, Piedade to be specific. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Starting the search of my ancestors
Hello. I am new to genealogy but I am ready to start the research that will lead me to my lost family members. I currently live in The United States but I am from a small town in Brazil, called Viamao. Back in the days, that particular area in Brazil received a huge number of people from Azores and I always heard as a kid that my family originated there. Unfortunately, I only have a few names and even fewer birth dates that will make my research even more complicated. My mom was able to get some of the records from a church in Osorio, Brazil but few people's records were found. We actually suspect my family was Jewish but forced to become Christians back then, several friends found their records in church and my family did not. I am Jewish, by choice, and it would shock me if my research finds Jewish ancestry at this point in my life. Any help or tip from you all will be greatly appreciated, so far I have requested a DNA kit and will start my genealogy tree soon. Thanks, Jeff Rolim Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Starting the search of my ancestors
Hi Jeff R, Genealogy is concerned with 3 things: A name, a date, and a place. Then we concern ourselves with 3 main events: birth, marriage, and death (and to a lesser extent, burial and divorce). If you have a name with a date, then you only need the place in the Azores. I'm from America, so I don't know what Brasilian resources are available to help you from that end, but there are Brasilian researchers on this list, as well as a few people who currently reside in Brasil. Perhaps Brasil has some type of censuses or newspaper obituaries (not sure what they are like in Brazil - they could just say that the person died. Many in America give a mini-biography). Did someone from the Azores have to become a citizen of Brasil? Hunt down that paperwork. I have a how-to guide, but it's from the American perspective. However, it might give you ideas: http://goo.gl/X6p1db I don't know which company you chose for your DNA testing. I run the Azores DNA project on Family Tree DNA. We have 600+ Azorean researchers there. FTDNA has the largest database so you are also compared with everyone in FTDNA who took that type of test. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Starting the search of my ancestors
Hi Jeff, I would also point out that the best test to take for finding family is the Family Finder Test with Family Tree DNA. With this test you will find matches back about 200 years and they may give you a better indication as to what island and concelho (municipal Council) your family came from. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 12:08 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Starting the search of my ancestors Hi Jeff R, Genealogy is concerned with 3 things: A name, a date, and a place. Then we concern ourselves with 3 main events: birth, marriage, and death (and to a lesser extent, burial and divorce). If you have a name with a date, then you only need the place in the Azores. I'm from America, so I don't know what Brasilian resources are available to help you from that end, but there are Brasilian researchers on this list, as well as a few people who currently reside in Brasil. Perhaps Brasil has some type of censuses or newspaper obituaries (not sure what they are like in Brazil - they could just say that the person died. Many in America give a mini-biography). Did someone from the Azores have to become a citizen of Brasil? Hunt down that paperwork. I have a how-to guide, but it's from the American perspective. However, it might give you ideas: http://goo.gl/X6p1db I don't know which company you chose for your DNA testing. I run the Azores DNA project on Family Tree DNA. We have 600+ Azorean researchers there. FTDNA has the largest database so you are also compared with everyone in FTDNA who took that type of test. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Starting the search of my ancestors
Hello Jeff,If you tell me the full names of the ancestors you know so far, that might be a decent clue.I know I have people in my database that came from Pico and settled in Viamao. And I am pretty sure of the same for people in Terceira.Off the top of my head, I think I am related to any of the people named Valim who settled in Viamao. They came from Pico, Piedade to be specific.Maybe we're related...As for your DNA testing, please listen to Cheri and Rick's advice and get it done through FTDNA.com for the best results and best possible chance to find DNA relatives.Happy New Year.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Starting the search of my ancestors From: jroli...@gmail.com Date: Fri, December 27, 2013 9:58 am To: azores@googlegroups.com Hello. I am new to genealogy but I am ready to start the research that will lead me to my lost family members. I currently live in The United States but I am from a small town in Brazil, called Viamao. Back in the days, that particular area in Brazil received a huge number of people from Azores and I always heard as a kid that my family originated there. Unfortunately, I only have a few names and even fewer birth dates that will make my research even more complicated. My mom was able to get some of the records from a church in Osorio, Brazil but few people's records were found. We actually suspect my family was Jewish but forced to become Christians back then, several friends found their records in church and my family did not. I am Jewish, by choice, and it would shock me if my research finds Jewish ancestry at this point in my life. Any help or tip from you all will be greatly appreciated, so far I have requested a DNA kit and will start my genealogy tree soon. Thanks, Jeff Rolim Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Starting the search of my ancestors
Doug, I am also related to the Valim's. I am fifth cousin to Sandra Kay Valen, daughter of Clarence Vieira Valim of Tulare, and son of Manuel Vieira Valim, born in Lajes, Pico in 1879 and Carolina Alves Vieira, born in 1893 in Lajes, Pico. Are these the same Valim's in your line or is this a different line? Marie Pleasant In a message dated 12/27/2013 2:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, p...@dholmes.com writes: Hello Jeff, If you tell me the full names of the ancestors you know so far, that might be a decent clue. I know I have people in my database that came from Pico and settled in Viamao. And I am pretty sure of the same for people in Terceira. Off the top of my head, I think I am related to any of the people named Valim who settled in Viamao. They came from Pico, Piedade to be specific. Maybe we're related... As for your DNA testing, please listen to Cheri and Rick's advice and get it done through _FTDNA.com_ (http://ftdna.com/) for the best results and best possible chance to find DNA relatives. Happy New Year. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 _www.dholmes.com_ (http://www.dholmes.com/) Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Starting the search of my ancestors From: _jrolim75@gmail.com_ (mailto:jroli...@gmail.com) Date: Fri, December 27, 2013 9:58 am To: _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) Hello. I am new to genealogy but I am ready to start the research that will lead me to my lost family members. I currently live in The United States but I am from a small town in Brazil, called Viamao. Back in the days, that particular area in Brazil received a huge number of people from Azores and I always heard as a kid that my family originated there. Unfortunately, I only have a few names and even fewer birth dates that will make my research even more complicated. My mom was able to get some of the records from a church in Osorio, Brazil but few people's records were found. We actually suspect my family was Jewish but forced to become Christians back then, several friends found their records in church and my family did not. I am Jewish, by choice, and it would shock me if my research finds Jewish ancestry at this point in my life. Any help or tip from you all will be greatly appreciated, so far I have requested a DNA kit and will start my genealogy tree soon. Thanks, Jeff Rolim Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Starting the search of my ancestors
Hi Marie,I am certain we connect that way, but the records don's allow us to know just how.It is a little surprising just how numerous these Valim branches are. There are so many of them in the Piedade area.Mine are Gonçalves Valim. Yours are Rodrigues Valim, if I recall. I think Sandra's are Pereira Valim and they are from Ribeirinha, which used to be part of Piedade. I am going by memory, so I might be off a little with the name combinations.I also have Valim from Santo Amaro, next door to Ribeirinha. Calheta de Nesquim has many Valim lines, as does Lajes do Pico. Many appear in Ribeiras, too. And they are found in most of the other villages, though usually coming from the east end of Pico.Did you get that long analysis of our DNA match I sent a couple weeks back?Happy New Year!Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Starting the search of my ancestors From: seekg...@aol.com Date: Fri, December 27, 2013 3:50 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Doug, I am also related to the Valim's. I am fifth cousin to Sandra Kay Valen, daughter of Clarence Vieira Valim of Tulare, and son of Manuel Vieira Valim, born in Lajes, Pico in 1879 and Carolina Alves Vieira, born in 1893 in Lajes, Pico. Are these the same Valim's in your line or is this a different line? Marie Pleasant In a message dated 12/27/2013 2:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, p...@dholmes.com writes: Hello Jeff, If you tell me the full names of the ancestors you know so far, that might be a decent clue. I know I have people in my database that came from Pico and settled in Viamao. And I am pretty sure of the same for people in Terceira. Off the top of my head, I think I am related to any of the people named Valim who settled in Viamao. They came from Pico, Piedade to be specific. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
