Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.

[Ricardo Chaves]

Lyn,

I found these records in Flores. I don't know if you can read them but
there is one very  very close of what you wrote. The only question is if
read somewhere he was actually "Filho de pais não sabidos" then none of
these will serve you, but if that's not the case and you simply don't know
his parents name, and he is Silveira, then there was a very close one.
Around the dates you wrote these are the closest "Josephs" I found.

STA CRUZ

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P47.html

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841/FLR-SC-SANTACRUZ-B-1826-1841_item1/P57.html

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-CEDROS-B-1797-1833/FLR-SC-CEDROS-B-1797-1833_item1/P107.html

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860_item1/P18.html

JOSE 03 JAN 1830

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860_item1/P19.html

*JOSE DA SILVEIRA 1830*
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860/FLR-SC-PONTADELGADA-B-1827-1860_item1/P20.html

JOSE DA SILVEIRA 1829
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1825-1839/FLR-LF-FAJAZINHA-B-1825-1839_item1/P57.html



Take care!




On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:53 PM, luiznoia .  wrote:

> Lyn,
>
> I've worked on many Azores to Australia and New Zealand families.
>
> I agree with Cheri on this. Joseph doesn't know who his parents were, so
> there is no family to pursue in Flores.
>
>  Santa Cruz and Lajes are the two concelhos of Flores, meaning he could be
> born anywhere on the island.
>
> Going on a needle in a haystack search for a baptism record with no more
> information than you already have can't help.
>
> Jose Silveira is one of the most common male names in the Azores, so it
> would be difficult to determine when you had the right person.
>
> I'd think it would be better to work through the Trove site to find more
> news articles that establish his life in Australia.
>
> http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/
>
>
> Eric Edgar
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Ricardo Chaves  wrote:
>
>> Lyn, what is Jose's last name, I realized you don't know his parents
>> names and that's what your looking for.
>>
>> Is it SILVA or SILVEIRA? Silvaria could be a name but I believe is a
>> misspell. A very common name in Central Group and Western Group is
>> SILVEIRA, and of course Silva.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Chaves wrote:
>>
>>> What are his parents names? I'll give a try.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
 Lyn S/B,

 If your ancestor stated on his own marriage certificate that his
 parents were unknown, then he was one of those babies that was given up at
 the church roda.  If you think he was born in Santa Cruz or Lajes on
 Flores, you can look in those 2 freguesias for a baby Jose born to pais
 incognitos on 1 Jan 1830.

 I'm always suspicious of the January 1st date.  Too convenient.  But
 you can look, nevertheless.


>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.

[luiznoia .]

Lyn,

I've worked on many Azores to Australia and New Zealand families.

I agree with Cheri on this. Joseph doesn't know who his parents were, so
there is no family to pursue in Flores.

 Santa Cruz and Lajes are the two concelhos of Flores, meaning he could be
born anywhere on the island.

Going on a needle in a haystack search for a baptism record with no more
information than you already have can't help.

Jose Silveira is one of the most common male names in the Azores, so it
would be difficult to determine when you had the right person.

I'd think it would be better to work through the Trove site to find more
news articles that establish his life in Australia.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/


Eric Edgar




On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Ricardo Chaves  wrote:

> Lyn, what is Jose's last name, I realized you don't know his parents names
> and that's what your looking for.
>
> Is it SILVA or SILVEIRA? Silvaria could be a name but I believe is a
> misspell. A very common name in Central Group and Western Group is
> SILVEIRA, and of course Silva.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Chaves wrote:
>
>> What are his parents names? I'll give a try.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> Lyn S/B,
>>>
>>> If your ancestor stated on his own marriage certificate that his parents
>>> were unknown, then he was one of those babies that was given up at the
>>> church roda.  If you think he was born in Santa Cruz or Lajes on Flores,
>>> you can look in those 2 freguesias for a baby Jose born to pais incognitos
>>> on 1 Jan 1830.
>>>
>>> I'm always suspicious of the January 1st date.  Too convenient.  But you
>>> can look, nevertheless.
>>>
>>>

   Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.

[Ricardo Chaves]

Lyn, what is Jose's last name, I realized you don't know his parents names
and that's what your looking for.

Is it SILVA or SILVEIRA? Silvaria could be a name but I believe is a
misspell. A very common name in Central Group and Western Group is
SILVEIRA, and of course Silva.


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Chaves  wrote:

> What are his parents names? I'll give a try.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Lyn S/B,
>>
>> If your ancestor stated on his own marriage certificate that his parents
>> were unknown, then he was one of those babies that was given up at the
>> church roda.  If you think he was born in Santa Cruz or Lajes on Flores,
>> you can look in those 2 freguesias for a baby Jose born to pais incognitos
>> on 1 Jan 1830.
>>
>> I'm always suspicious of the January 1st date.  Too convenient.  But you
>> can look, nevertheless.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>   Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.

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What are his parents names? I'll give a try.


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Lyn S/B,
>
> If your ancestor stated on his own marriage certificate that his parents
> were unknown, then he was one of those babies that was given up at the
> church roda.  If you think he was born in Santa Cruz or Lajes on Flores,
> you can look in those 2 freguesias for a baby Jose born to pais incognitos
> on 1 Jan 1830.
>
> I'm always suspicious of the January 1st date.  Too convenient.  But you
> can look, nevertheless.
>
>
>>
>>  Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.

[Cheri Mello]

Lyn S/B,

If your ancestor stated on his own marriage certificate that his parents
were unknown, then he was one of those babies that was given up at the
church roda.  If you think he was born in Santa Cruz or Lajes on Flores,
you can look in those 2 freguesias for a baby Jose born to pais incognitos
on 1 Jan 1830.

I'm always suspicious of the January 1st date.  Too convenient.  But you
can look, nevertheless.


>
>  Cheri Mello
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Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.

[crazy6girl]

Azores Genealogy 
***
Hello. I hope someone can help me. I have been trying to get above this 
part of my Silva, Ancestry. for 8 years, now. But each time I get to my 
Great Great Grandfather, Joseph Silva, I hit a brick wall.  I have been 
told his Parents names, but, each time I check this out. the answers don't 
seem to fit.  So I am asking for some help  to find his Fathers and His 
Mothers Name. Sadly on his marriage certificate it is written Parents 
Unknown.  All his descendants are in place on my Ancestry. All his 
Children,  their Children , and down the line  even to my great Grandson. 
Below is the info I have on my Ancestry.com.au
Cheers
Lyn Silva/Budden
**
Joseph  SilvaYour 2nd great grandfatherBirth 1 Jan 1830 in Santa Cruz ou 
Lajes. Flores, The Azores.  Death 
*Living* 
Death 7 July 1896 in Maryborough, Victoria, Australia Joseph Silvaria M, 
#29097

**
1846 — Age: 16MassachusettsMaine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Vermont 
until 1855 Then came to Australia where he married and had many 
children.x15,  I believe.


1855. 19 Feb— Age: 25Captain Samuel Gore. Sorrento, Victoria. 
Australia.February 
19.-White Swallow, U.S. ship, 1192 tons. Samuel Gore, from Boston 21st 
November .Fix this text No passengers. Captain Gore, agent Clover and 
Edwards, agents Then came to Australia where he married and had many 
children.15, I believe. 
1869  26 Feb— Age: 
39Jones's Creek .The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. Friday 26 February 1869 Page 5, 
list of New Insolvents - Joseph Silva, Jones's Creek, miner. Causes of 
insolvency-Illness, want of employment, and losses in mining. Liabilities, 
£85 14s. ; assets, £3 7s. 0d. ; deficiency, £82 0s,
1870 — Age: 
40Carisbrook, 
Victoria, AustraliaAustralia Marriage Index, 1788-1950 about Joseph Silver 
Name: Joseph Silver [Joseph Silva] Spouse Name: Catherine (Rogan) Brogan.   
Marriage Place: Victoria Registration Place: Victoria Registration Year: 
1870 Registration number: 3950 
***1896   7 Jul— Age: 
66Maryborough, Victoria, Australia . Joseph Died from an abcess on the 
lung. http://www.chestnut-blue.com/Chestnut-o/i62.htm#s3223 Australia Death 
Index, 1787-1985 about Jos Silveria Name: Jos Silveria Death Place: 
Maryborough, Victoria Age: 66 Registration Year: 1896 Regi
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