Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] would they?
Mike I guess you have this NEPS record. http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=piedade;lang=en;p=antonio+leal;n=rosa;oc=4 My Pereira Dutras traveled separately, serially from Silviera, Pico to Boston or the East Coast and took trains to California. Looks like there may have been another daughter Rosa. Mine went out of San Miguel. António LealRosa Born on 13 June 1875 - Piedade,Lajes do Pico,Pico Died Parents José Leal Rosa 1806-1899 Francisca Anjos Marriages and children Married on 3 May 1897 toMaria Paulina 1879, with Maria ?1901 Relationship computing Ancestors Descendants Cousins Previous sibling Update FranciscaAnjos http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=piedade;lang=en;p=francisca;n=anjos;oc=5 Born - Piedade,Lajes do Pico,Pico Marriages and children Married on 22 June 1867 toJosé Leal Rosa 1806-1899, with Maria ?1868 Rosa ?1870 António Leal1875 Relationship computing Descendants Update -Original Message- From: Mike To: azores Sent: Sun, Aug 26, 2012 3:49 pm Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] would they? I have Cheri's info on how to read the records on the CCA site, I've just always been better with numbers than I am with words whether in another language or english. My question was would they have left Pico to come to the USA together? How likely is it that she would have come here by herself as a single woman even though she was 8 years older than her brother and he cam here married, Her name was Maria Leal dad Rosa b1868 d1932 my info has her arriving in Fairhaven, Mass. in 1893. His name was Antonio Leal Rosa b1875 d?, he married Maria Paulina b1879 d? all were from Piedade, Lajes do Pico, Pico. Did I read somewhere correctly that they would have needed passports to leave the Azores for the USA? what info do I need and is it the CCA site I will have to look? Mike On Sunday, August 26, 2012 2:44:17 PM UTC-4, PearlCat 500 wrote: Michael, I have a similar situation with my great grandfather. He came here supposedly in 1898. The only vessel for that year is a schooner from his island Sao Jorge to Provincetown, Ma. There are names that look like his brothers, but he is now where on the list. They are all probably related somehow since it is a small island. The lady in New Bedford, Ma helping me said that not all ships manifests have been done. We could not find info on the schooner so seeing if he was crew has not been found either. We checked other records that say he came here in 1898 but they do not record the actual date or how. We checked the whale men out of New Bedford he is not there so he did not work in that field. The search continues. He is found in 1906 when he brought his new bride here. They went to New Bedford. Trying to find out how long they stayed in New Bedford and with whom and how they got to California. He has a common name as well Jorge Faustino da Silva, 1880-1950 son of Joao Faustino da Luz. Keep searching it will be found. Robin L On Aug 26, 2012, at 11:43, Michael Gilfilian wrote: Well I've searched thru Prolly between 3000-3500 name variations on ancestry, family search, and others, my next place will be on the cca site but I still can't make out to much on that website On Aug 25, 2012 9:41 PM, "Frank or JoElayne Johnson" wrote: Where are you looking? JoElayne Ferre' Johnson From: Mike To: azo...@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] would they? according to the 1920 census my great great grandma immigrated in 1893 and the 1930 census says it was 1895. She would have been 25 or 27 upon arrival, in her obituary she left a brother who was in California. My question is then, would they have traveled here together? no matter how much I look I just can't find her, or him for that matter with anything definitive. Mike -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they
Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] would they?
Mike, Could this be her? Came earlier than 1893-95. You could match her on CCA site and see if parents are the same. Ships Captain is Antonio F. Rosa Name: Maria Rosa Arrival Date: 26 Nov 1889 Birth Year: abt 1867 Age: 22 Gender: Female Place of Origin: Pico Port of Departure: Azores Islands, Autonomous Regions of Portugal Destination: Boston, Massachusetts Port of Arrival: New York Port Arrival State: New York Port Arrival Country: United States Ship Name: Benquella "E" -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] would they?
I have Cheri's info on how to read the records on the CCA site, I've just always been better with numbers than I am with words whether in another language or english. My question was would they have left Pico to come to the USA together? How likely is it that she would have come here by herself as a single woman even though she was 8 years older than her brother and he cam here married, Her name was Maria Leal dad Rosa b1868 d1932 my info has her arriving in Fairhaven, Mass. in 1893. His name was Antonio Leal Rosa b1875 d?, he married Maria Paulina b1879 d? all were from Piedade, Lajes do Pico, Pico. Did I read somewhere correctly that they would have needed passports to leave the Azores for the USA? what info do I need and is it the CCA site I will have to look? Mike On Sunday, August 26, 2012 2:44:17 PM UTC-4, PearlCat 500 wrote: > > Michael, > > I have a similar situation with my great grandfather. He came here > supposedly in 1898. The only vessel for that year is a schooner from his > island Sao Jorge to Provincetown, Ma. There are names that look like his > brothers, but he is now where on the list. They are all probably related > somehow since it is a small island. The lady in New Bedford, Ma helping me > said that not all ships manifests have been done. We could not find info on > the schooner so seeing if he was crew has not been found either. We checked > other records that say he came here in 1898 but they do not record the > actual date or how. We checked the whale men out of New Bedford he is not > there so he did not work in that field. The search continues. He is found > in 1906 when he brought his new bride here. They went to New Bedford. > Trying to find out how long they stayed in New Bedford and with whom and > how they got to California. > He has a common name as well Jorge Faustino da Silva, 1880-1950 son of > Joao Faustino da Luz. > Keep searching it will be found. > Robin L > > On Aug 26, 2012, at 11:43, Michael Gilfilian > > > wrote: > > Well I've searched thru Prolly between 3000-3500 name variations on > ancestry, family search, and others, my next place will be on the cca site > but I still can't make out to much on that website > On Aug 25, 2012 9:41 PM, "Frank or JoElayne Johnson" > > > wrote: > >> Where are you looking? >> >> >> JoElayne Ferre' Johnson >> >> >> -- >> *From:* Mike > >> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 25, 2012 5:38 PM >> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] would they? >> >> according to the 1920 census my great great grandma immigrated in 1893 >> and the 1930 census says it was 1895. She would have been 25 or 27 upon >> arrival, in her obituary she left a brother who was in California. My >> question is then, would they have traveled here together? no matter how >> much I look I just can't find her, or him for that matter with anything >> definitive. >> >> Mike >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> azores+un...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation >> directions when they arrive. >> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> azores+un...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation >> directions when they arrive. >> For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+un...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation > directions when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > > -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] would they?
Michael, I have a similar situation with my great grandfather. He came here supposedly in 1898. The only vessel for that year is a schooner from his island Sao Jorge to Provincetown, Ma. There are names that look like his brothers, but he is now where on the list. They are all probably related somehow since it is a small island. The lady in New Bedford, Ma helping me said that not all ships manifests have been done. We could not find info on the schooner so seeing if he was crew has not been found either. We checked other records that say he came here in 1898 but they do not record the actual date or how. We checked the whale men out of New Bedford he is not there so he did not work in that field. The search continues. He is found in 1906 when he brought his new bride here. They went to New Bedford. Trying to find out how long they stayed in New Bedford and with whom and how they got to California. He has a common name as well Jorge Faustino da Silva, 1880-1950 son of Joao Faustino da Luz. Keep searching it will be found. Robin L On Aug 26, 2012, at 11:43, Michael Gilfilian wrote: > Well I've searched thru Prolly between 3000-3500 name variations on ancestry, > family search, and others, my next place will be on the cca site but I still > can't make out to much on that website > > On Aug 25, 2012 9:41 PM, "Frank or JoElayne Johnson" > wrote: > Where are you looking? > > > JoElayne Ferre' Johnson > > > From: Mike > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 5:38 PM > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] would they? > > according to the 1920 census my great great grandma immigrated in 1893 and > the 1930 census says it was 1895. She would have been 25 or 27 upon arrival, > in her obituary she left a brother who was in California. My question is > then, would they have traveled here together? no matter how much I look I > just can't find her, or him for that matter with anything definitive. > > Mike > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when > they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when > they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when > they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] would they?
I was born, raised, and live in California. If you would give some names, I might be able to help. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Mike To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] would they? according to the 1920 census my great great grandma immigrated in 1893 and the 1930 census says it was 1895. She would have been 25 or 27 upon arrival, in her obituary she left a brother who was in California. My question is then, would they have traveled here together? no matter how much I look I just can't find her, or him for that matter with anything definitive. Mike -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] would they?
Mike, Cheri has a page with tons of help with reading the cca site. I cannot find the URL but someone on the list will give it to us. She did a series of lessons for us that made a huge difference in my ability to read the pages. I still need help but this list is very generous in lending a hand when you need it. JoElayne Ferre' Johnson From: Michael Gilfilian To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] would they? Well I've searched thru Prolly between 3000-3500 name variations on ancestry, family search, and others, my next place will be on the cca site but I still can't make out to much on that website On Aug 25, 2012 9:41 PM, "Frank or JoElayne Johnson" wrote: Where are you looking? > > > JoElayne Ferre' Johnson > > > > > > From: Mike >To: azores@googlegroups.com >Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 5:38 PM >Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] would they? > > >according to the 1920 census my great great grandma immigrated in 1893 and the >1930 census says it was 1895. She would have been 25 or 27 upon arrival, in >her obituary she left a brother who was in California. My question is then, >would they have traveled here together? no matter how much I look I just can't >find her, or him for that matter with anything definitive. > >Mike > -- >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when >they arrive. >For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >(vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right >that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > > -- >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when >they arrive. >For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >(vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right >that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] would they?
Well I've searched thru Prolly between 3000-3500 name variations on ancestry, family search, and others, my next place will be on the cca site but I still can't make out to much on that website On Aug 25, 2012 9:41 PM, "Frank or JoElayne Johnson" wrote: > Where are you looking? > > > JoElayne Ferre' Johnson > > > -- > *From:* Mike > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Saturday, August 25, 2012 5:38 PM > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] would they? > > according to the 1920 census my great great grandma immigrated in 1893 and > the 1930 census says it was 1895. She would have been 25 or 27 upon > arrival, in her obituary she left a brother who was in California. My > question is then, would they have traveled here together? no matter how > much I look I just can't find her, or him for that matter with anything > definitive. > > Mike > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] would they?
The census have been known to make mistakes. They have wrong information on my grandmother. --- On Sat, 8/25/12, Mike wrote: From: Mike Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] would they? To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, August 25, 2012, 5:38 PM according to the 1920 census my great great grandma immigrated in 1893 and the 1930 census says it was 1895. She would have been 25 or 27 upon arrival, in her obituary she left a brother who was in California. My question is then, would they have traveled here together? no matter how much I look I just can't find her, or him for that matter with anything definitive. Mike -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] would they?
Where are you looking? JoElayne Ferre' Johnson From: Mike To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] would they? according to the 1920 census my great great grandma immigrated in 1893 and the 1930 census says it was 1895. She would have been 25 or 27 upon arrival, in her obituary she left a brother who was in California. My question is then, would they have traveled here together? no matter how much I look I just can't find her, or him for that matter with anything definitive. Mike -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] would they?
according to the 1920 census my great great grandma immigrated in 1893 and the 1930 census says it was 1895. She would have been 25 or 27 upon arrival, in her obituary she left a brother who was in California. My question is then, would they have traveled here together? no matter how much I look I just can't find her, or him for that matter with anything definitive. Mike -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Would they add to their records
Mike, that is highly unlikely. It may have been published in one of the various US portuguese newspapers as some of those publications had small articles about people from the various towns who would be travelling to the azores. I think that may be more help to you. The newspaper archive is online and searchable: https://news.arcasearch.com/usmaums/ Click on the photo of the newspaper and it will give you a new window where you can type in names and search according to one particular publication or all available newspapers. You can also search by date. From: Mike To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 6:39:49 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Would they add to their records If some of our ancestors met their spouse over here in the USA, like mt gr8t gr8t grandparents did, and then they took a trip home to introduce their new husband or wife to their family would that get recorded somewhere in their Parrish's records. Mike -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Would they add to their records
If some of our ancestors met their spouse over here in the USA, like mt gr8t gr8t grandparents did, and then they took a trip home to introduce their new husband or wife to their family would that get recorded somewhere in their Parrish's records. Mike -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
