Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
I think this is the same situation that has shown up in my family DNA (Family Finder). Mine and several of my first cousins have submitted our Family Finder DNA. Some shows relationships that some do not yet we all share one set of grandparents. When a child is conceived it receives half of it's DNA from each parent. However, the parent gives a random set to each child. It's like rolling the dice. You never know which sets of DNA will show up in each child. That's why all of our children look different! The best way to discover new cousins is to have as many of your cousins submit their Family Finder DNA. In a message dated 5/1/2014 12:37:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, p...@dholmes.com writes: I spoke too soon. Just saw that you answered it in the next message. Great! Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 _www.dholmes.com_ (http://www.dholmes.com/) Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list From: Fawn Silva _2silvas@gmail.com_ (mailto:2sil...@gmail.com) Date: Wed, April 30, 2014 11:59 pm To: _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) Sam, My husband is Dennis Silva on your list his maternal uncle is Buzzie Mendonca, also on your list. I have a gedcom for Dennis on the site but not for Buzzie yet. I will try to get that done in this next wk. Hope it will help! Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 2:36 AM, _pico@dholmes.com_ (mailto:p...@dholmes.com) wrote: I just noticed I am also showing a relation to Buzzie Mendonca. Anyone know his ancestry? There is no gedcom. We have 23 common matches between us. We're not showing a relation, but if Bill Antoine is related to Wally, then we should show it. But maybe too remote. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist _916-550-1618_ (tel:916-550-1618) _www.dholmes.com_ (http://www.dholmes.com/) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to _azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
Sam, My husband is Dennis Silva on your list his maternal uncle is Buzzie Mendonca, also on your list. I have a gedcom for Dennis on the site but not for Buzzie yet. I will try to get that done in this next wk. Hope it will help! Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 2:36 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: I just noticed I am also showing a relation to Buzzie Mendonca. Anyone know his ancestry? There is no gedcom. We have 23 common matches between us. We're not showing a relation, but if Bill Antoine is related to Wally, then we should show it. But maybe too remote. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message On Apr 26, 2014, at 14:02, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hello list; I just ran a comparison on FTDNA Family Finder Matrix. The 13 people below are shown as matches. I know William Coelho and Alfred Rose are 2nd cousins. The line goes from Fraga back to Silveira back to Machado on the island of Sao Jorge. My thought is, if the 13 of s compared notes and gedcoms, wouldn’t you think we could find the link? My gedcom is up on FTDNA and I know some of the others are as well. Perhaps if the rest of the 13 who do not have there gedcoms posted on FTDNA would post them, we might find the link? Does anyone else have an idea how to figure this out? Thanks, Sam (wandering around the U.S. in search of a home) William Coelho Alfred Rose William (Bill) Antoine Dennis Silva (Contact: Fawn) Manuel Soares Cunha (c/o Helen) Adeline Marie Amaral (Contact: Veronica) Shirley Adene Cooley David Maria Do Carmo Geraldine Martin Buzzie Mendonca Sharon Pereira-Driscoll Danae Andrea Sharp Emil Henry Silveira -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
I spoke too soon. Just saw that you answered it in the next message.Great!Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list From: Fawn Silva 2sil...@gmail.com Date: Wed, April 30, 2014 11:59 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Sam,My husband is Dennis Silva on your list his maternal uncle is Buzzie Mendonca, also on your list. I have a gedcom for Dennis on the site but not for Buzzie yet. I will try to get that done in this next wk. Hope it will help! Fawn SilvaSt. Louis, MOOn Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 2:36 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: I just noticed I am also showing a relation to Buzzie Mendonca. Anyone know his ancestry? There is no gedcom. We have 23 common matches between us.We're not showing a relation, but if Bill Antoine is related to Wally, then we should show it. But maybe too remote. Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
Fawn; My guess is that our connection is thru your husband’s Sao Jorge Machado line but; as yet sadly, I don’t see the connection. Sam in CA Sent from Windows Mail From: Fawn Silva Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:59 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Sam, My husband is Dennis Silva on your list his maternal uncle is Buzzie Mendonca, also on your list. I have a gedcom for Dennis on the site but not for Buzzie yet. I will try to get that done in this next wk. Hope it will help! Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
I just noticed I am also showing a relation to Buzzie Mendonca.Anyone know his ancestry? There is no gedcom. We have 23 common matches between us.We're not showing a relation, but if Bill Antoine is related to Wally, then we should show it. But maybe too remote.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message On Apr 26, 2014, at 14:02, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote:Hello list; I just ran a comparison on FTDNA Family Finder Matrix. The 13 people below are shown as matches. I know William Coelho and Alfred Rose are 2nd cousins. The line goes from Fraga back to Silveira back to Machado on the island of Sao Jorge. My thought is, if the 13 of s compared notes and gedcoms, wouldn’t you think we could find the link? My gedcom is up on FTDNA and I know some of the others are as well. Perhaps if the rest of the 13 who do not have there gedcoms posted on FTDNA would post them, we might find the link?Does anyone else have an idea how to figure this out? Thanks, Sam (wandering around the U.S. in search of a home)William Coelho Alfred Rose William (Bill) Antoine Dennis Silva (Contact: Fawn) Manuel Soares Cunha (c/o Helen) Adeline Marie Amaral (Contact: Veronica) Shirley Adene Cooley David Maria Do Carmo Geraldine Martin Buzzie Mendonca Sharon Pereira-Driscoll Danae Andrea Sharp Emil Henry Silveira -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
Sam, I read this list all the time. I've done my DNA test for the female line but not family finder yet. My mother is a Silva through her father. She is from Manteca/Escalon, Calif area. My 2nd great grandmother is Maria Inacia da Silveira born in 1853 Calheta, Sao Jorge. Her spouse was Joao Faustino de Luz. Her mother (my 3rd great grandmother) was Marianna Inacia Silveira born Aug 26 1820 Ribeira Seca. Maria's father was Joao Silveira Nunes. Mariana Inacia Silveira's parents I have listed as Isabel Silveira s. Pedro and Manuel Michado Mendonca Borba. I don't have birth dates for all the parents or grandparents yet. I'm a slow reader of the baptism, etc pages. Does any of your Silveira line have any of these Silveira names listed? I have my family on tribalpages.com. I don't know how to do Gedcom, post my DNA results, or even understand them. I saw your post that had Silveira and the correct island so I thought I would ask. Thanks for your time. Robin L On Apr 26, 2014, at 14:02, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hello list; I just ran a comparison on FTDNA Family Finder Matrix. The 13 people below are shown as matches. I know William Coelho and Alfred Rose are 2nd cousins. The line goes from Fraga back to Silveira back to Machado on the island of Sao Jorge. My thought is, if the 13 of s compared notes and gedcoms, wouldn’t you think we could find the link? My gedcom is up on FTDNA and I know some of the others are as well. Perhaps if the rest of the 13 who do not have there gedcoms posted on FTDNA would post them, we might find the link? Does anyone else have an idea how to figure this out? Thanks, Sam (wandering around the U.S. in search of a home) William Coelho Alfred Rose William (Bill) Antoine Dennis Silva (Contact: Fawn) Manuel Soares Cunha (c/o Helen) Adeline Marie Amaral (Contact: Veronica) Shirley Adene Cooley David Maria Do Carmo Geraldine Martin Buzzie Mendonca Sharon Pereira-Driscoll Danae Andrea Sharp Emil Henry Silveira Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
Hi Robin; Given the Silveira name and that your ancestors are from the same island and village, it would seem we must be related to some degree, however; I have none of your ancestors in my tree, as yet…. I tried looking at your tree on tribal pages but; could not find a Robin Lebo tree. I tried looking under Silveira but; was unable to open any of those listed. Do you have to be a member to see the trees? As for creating a gedcom, depends on which program you use, I’d guess. Which do you use? If you have done a family finder test and if we have a match, it would be automatically posted as long as you have checked that you want it to be posted. You can talk to Cheri about that. If you have done the Family Finder test what name did you do it under? Look forward to hearing from you, Sam in CA (for now) Sent from Windows Mail From: Robin Lebo Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 9:36 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Sam, I read this list all the time. I've done my DNA test for the female line but not family finder yet. My mother is a Silva p://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
I'm going to a class at the end of May on these DNA tools. I've looked at the Matrix, but I haven't had the time to figure it out yet. Cheri On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 5:09 PM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Me too! -- From: azores@googlegroups.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 00:03:57 + I think we found the line we “surmised” to be our connection but; I don’t think we found anything concrete and no, I’m not sure now who it was. I’ll go back and try again… Sent from Windows Mail *From:* nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com *Sent:* Saturday, April 26, 2014 5:01 PM *To:* azores group azores@googlegroups.com Ok Sam...I'll take a look! However, I'm not sure I'll understand any better than you do! Did you and I find our connection on paper before all this DNA? I thought we did but without going back through all of our back and forth emails I'm not sure..you may not remember any more than I do! That was quite a while ago! Nancy Jean -- From: azores@googlegroups.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 23:49:08 + Nancy Jean; You are right, you should be added to the list to make 14 of us that seem to share the same dna. Now, if I’m reading the Matriz correctly and there is a good chance I’m not!, we all share dna with a William “Bill” Antoine; however, not all of us share the same dna. Don’t know if I’ve expressed that correctly. If you want to understand what I’m trying to say, go to ftdna ff and then down to Matrix. Put all 13 names in the grid, you’ll only be able to do 10 at a time. See if you come to the same conclusion as I or am I just not understanding what it is telling me? Hope you can understand this better than I, Sam Sent from Windows Mail *From:* nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com *Sent:* Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:25 PM *To:* azores group azores@googlegroups.com Hi Sam, Interesting that neither Uncle John or I show up as a match to you.I thought we actually determined a common ancestor a good while agoor I am I mistaken? Nancy Jean -- Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 14:10:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list From: bellema...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sam, I cannot find your email addy. Can you send it to my email addy? The Sharp name intrigued me and I think I have some info on this person and her Portuguese maiden name. She married a Sharp. No relation. E On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:02 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hello list; I just ran a comparison on FTDNA Family Finder Matrix. The 13 people below are shown as matches. I know William Coelho and Alfred Rose are 2nd cousins. The line goes from Fraga back to Silveira back to Machado on the island of Sao Jorge. My thought is, if the 13 of s compared notes and gedcoms, wouldn’t you think we could find the link? My gedcom is up on FTDNA and I know some of the others are as well. Perhaps if the rest of the 13 who do not have there gedcoms posted on FTDNA would post them, we might find the link? Does anyone else have an idea how to figure this out? Thanks, Sam (wandering around the U.S. in search of a home) William Coelho Alfred Rose William (Bill) Antoine Dennis Silva (Contact: Fawn) Manuel Soares Cunha (c/o Helen) Adeline Marie Amaral (Contact: Veronica) Shirley Adene Cooley David Maria Do Carmo Geraldine Martin Buzzie Mendonca Sharon Pereira-Driscoll Danae Andrea Sharp Emil Henry Silveira Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
Cheri, That will be great.all very complex..I think I've just found a good way to separate my numerous cousin matches into clusters using the in common with and I'm going to make some lists that might help figure more out. Nancy Jean From: gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 10:49:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list To: azores@googlegroups.com I'm going to a class at the end of May on these DNA tools. I've looked at the Matrix, but I haven't had the time to figure it out yet. Cheri On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 5:09 PM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Me too! From: azores@googlegroups.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 00:03:57 + I think we found the line we surmised to be our connection but; I don't think we found anything concrete and no, I'm not sure now who it was. I'll go back and try again... Sent from Windows Mail From: nancy jean baptiste Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 5:01 PM To: azores group Ok Sam...I'll take a look! However, I'm not sure I'll understand any better than you do! Did you and I find our connection on paper before all this DNA? I thought we did but without going back through all of our back and forth emails I'm not sure..you may not remember any more than I do! That was quite a while ago! Nancy Jean From: azores@googlegroups.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 23:49:08 + Nancy Jean; You are right, you should be added to the list to make 14 of us that seem to share the same dna. Now, if I'm reading the Matriz correctly and there is a good chance I'm not!, we all share dna with a William Bill Antoine; however, not all of us share the same dna. Don't know if I've expressed that correctly. If you want to understand what I'm trying to say, go to ftdna ff and then down to Matrix. Put all 13 names in the grid, you'll only be able to do 10 at a time. See if you come to the same conclusion as I or am I just not understanding what it is telling me? Hope you can understand this better than I, Sam Sent from Windows Mail From: nancy jean baptiste Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:25 PM To: azores group Hi Sam, Interesting that neither Uncle John or I show up as a match to you.I thought we actually determined a common ancestor a good while agoor I am I mistaken? Nancy Jean Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 14:10:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list From: bellema...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sam, I cannot find your email addy. Can you send it to my email addy? The Sharp name intrigued me and I think I have some info on this person and her Portuguese maiden name. She married a Sharp. No relation. E On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:02 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hello list; I just ran a comparison on FTDNA Family Finder Matrix. The 13 people below are shown as matches. I know William Coelho and Alfred Rose are 2nd cousins. The line goes from Fraga back to Silveira back to Machado on the island of Sao Jorge. My thought is, if the 13 of s compared notes and gedcoms, wouldn't you think we could find the link? My gedcom is up on FTDNA and I know some of the others are as well. Perhaps if the rest of the 13 who do not have there gedcoms posted on FTDNA would post them, we might find the link? Does anyone else have an idea how to figure this out? Thanks, Sam (wandering around the U.S. in search of a home) William Coelho Alfred Rose William (Bill) Antoine Dennis Silva (Contact: Fawn) Manuel Soares Cunha (c/o Helen) Adeline Marie Amaral (Contact: Veronica) Shirley Adene Cooley David Maria Do Carmo Geraldine Martin Buzzie Mendonca Sharon Pereira-Driscoll Danae Andrea Sharp Emil Henry Silveira Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You
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Cheri; That’s great! I will look forward to you passing on the information you learn. Thanks, Sam Sent from Windows Mail From: Cheri Mello Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 10:49 AM To: Azores Genealogy I'm going to a class at the end of May on these DNA tools. I've looked at the Matrix, but I haven't had the time to figure it out yet. Cheri http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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Sam, I cannot find your email addy. Can you send it to my email addy? The Sharp name intrigued me and I think I have some info on this person and her Portuguese maiden name. She married a Sharp. No relation. E On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:02 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hello list; I just ran a comparison on FTDNA Family Finder Matrix. The 13 people below are shown as matches. I know William Coelho and Alfred Rose are 2nd cousins. The line goes from Fraga back to Silveira back to Machado on the island of Sao Jorge. My thought is, if the 13 of s compared notes and gedcoms, wouldn’t you think we could find the link? My gedcom is up on FTDNA and I know some of the others are as well. Perhaps if the rest of the 13 who do not have there gedcoms posted on FTDNA would post them, we might find the link? Does anyone else have an idea how to figure this out? Thanks, Sam (wandering around the U.S. in search of a home) William Coelho Alfred Rose William (Bill) Antoine Dennis Silva (Contact: Fawn) Manuel Soares Cunha (c/o Helen) Adeline Marie Amaral (Contact: Veronica) Shirley Adene Cooley David Maria Do Carmo Geraldine Martin Buzzie Mendonca Sharon Pereira-Driscoll Danae Andrea Sharp Emil Henry Silveira Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
Hi Sam, Interesting that neither Uncle John or I show up as a match to you.I thought we actually determined a common ancestor a good while agoor I am I mistaken? Nancy Jean Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 14:10:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list From: bellema...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sam, I cannot find your email addy. Can you send it to my email addy? The Sharp name intrigued me and I think I have some info on this person and her Portuguese maiden name. She married a Sharp. No relation. E On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:02 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hello list; I just ran a comparison on FTDNA Family Finder Matrix. The 13 people below are shown as matches. I know William Coelho and Alfred Rose are 2nd cousins. The line goes from Fraga back to Silveira back to Machado on the island of Sao Jorge. My thought is, if the 13 of s compared notes and gedcoms, wouldn't you think we could find the link? My gedcom is up on FTDNA and I know some of the others are as well. Perhaps if the rest of the 13 who do not have there gedcoms posted on FTDNA would post them, we might find the link? Does anyone else have an idea how to figure this out? Thanks, Sam (wandering around the U.S. in search of a home) William Coelho Alfred Rose William (Bill) Antoine Dennis Silva (Contact: Fawn) Manuel Soares Cunha (c/o Helen) Adeline Marie Amaral (Contact: Veronica) Shirley Adene Cooley David Maria Do Carmo Geraldine Martin Buzzie Mendonca Sharon Pereira-Driscoll Danae Andrea Sharp Emil Henry Silveira Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
Elaine; I have tried responding to you at both the Hotmail and the gmail addy but; both bounced back. My email is: aportu...@yahoo.com Looking forward to hearing from you, Sam Sent from Windows Mail From: E Sharp Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:10 PM To: azores Sam, I cannot find your email addy. Can you send it to my email addy? The Sharp name intrigued me and I think I have some info on this person and her Portuguese maiden name. She married a Sharp. No relation. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
Nancy Jean; You are right, you should be added to the list to make 14 of us that seem to share the same dna. Now, if I’m reading the Matriz correctly and there is a good chance I’m not!, we all share dna with a William “Bill” Antoine; however, not all of us share the same dna. Don’t know if I’ve expressed that correctly. If you want to understand what I’m trying to say, go to ftdna ff and then down to Matrix. Put all 13 names in the grid, you’ll only be able to do 10 at a time. See if you come to the same conclusion as I or am I just not understanding what it is telling me? Hope you can understand this better than I, Sam Sent from Windows Mail From: nancy jean baptiste Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:25 PM To: azores group Hi Sam, Interesting that neither Uncle John or I show up as a match to you.I thought we actually determined a common ancestor a good while agoor I am I mistaken? Nancy Jean Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 14:10:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list From: bellema...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sam, I cannot find your email addy. Can you send it to my email addy? The Sharp name intrigued me and I think I have some info on this person and her Portuguese maiden name. She married a Sharp. No relation. E On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:02 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hello list; I just ran a comparison on FTDNA Family Finder Matrix. The 13 people below are shown as matches. I know William Coelho and Alfred Rose are 2nd cousins. The line goes from Fraga back to Silveira back to Machado on the island of Sao Jorge. My thought is, if the 13 of s compared notes and gedcoms, wouldn’t you think we could find the link? My gedcom is up on FTDNA and I know some of the others are as well. Perhaps if the rest of the 13 who do not have there gedcoms posted on FTDNA would post them, we might find the link? Does anyone else have an idea how to figure this out? Thanks, Sam (wandering around the U.S. in search of a home) William Coelho Alfred Rose William (Bill) Antoine Dennis Silva (Contact: Fawn) Manuel Soares Cunha (c/o Helen) Adeline Marie Amaral (Contact: Veronica) Shirley Adene Cooley David Maria Do Carmo Geraldine Martin Buzzie Mendonca Sharon Pereira-Driscoll Danae Andrea Sharp Emil Henry Silveira Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
Ok Sam...I'll take a look! However, I'm not sure I'll understand any better than you do! Did you and I find our connection on paper before all this DNA? I thought we did but without going back through all of our back and forth emails I'm not sure..you may not remember any more than I do! That was quite a while ago! Nancy Jean From: azores@googlegroups.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 23:49:08 + Nancy Jean; You are right, you should be added to the list to make 14 of us that seem to share the same dna. Now, if I'm reading the Matriz correctly and there is a good chance I'm not!, we all share dna with a William Bill Antoine; however, not all of us share the same dna. Don't know if I've expressed that correctly. If you want to understand what I'm trying to say, go to ftdna ff and then down to Matrix. Put all 13 names in the grid, you'll only be able to do 10 at a time. See if you come to the same conclusion as I or am I just not understanding what it is telling me? Hope you can understand this better than I, Sam Sent from Windows Mail From: nancy jean baptiste Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:25 PM To: azores group Hi Sam, Interesting that neither Uncle John or I show up as a match to you.I thought we actually determined a common ancestor a good while agoor I am I mistaken? Nancy Jean Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 14:10:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list From: bellema...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sam, I cannot find your email addy. Can you send it to my email addy? The Sharp name intrigued me and I think I have some info on this person and her Portuguese maiden name. She married a Sharp. No relation. E On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:02 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hello list; I just ran a comparison on FTDNA Family Finder Matrix. The 13 people below are shown as matches. I know William Coelho and Alfred Rose are 2nd cousins. The line goes from Fraga back to Silveira back to Machado on the island of Sao Jorge. My thought is, if the 13 of s compared notes and gedcoms, wouldn't you think we could find the link? My gedcom is up on FTDNA and I know some of the others are as well. Perhaps if the rest of the 13 who do not have there gedcoms posted on FTDNA would post them, we might find the link? Does anyone else have an idea how to figure this out? Thanks, Sam (wandering around the U.S. in search of a home) William Coelho Alfred Rose William (Bill) Antoine Dennis Silva (Contact: Fawn) Manuel Soares Cunha (c/o Helen) Adeline Marie Amaral (Contact: Veronica) Shirley Adene Cooley David Maria Do Carmo Geraldine Martin Buzzie Mendonca Sharon Pereira-Driscoll Danae Andrea Sharp Emil Henry Silveira Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
I think we found the line we “surmised” to be our connection but; I don’t think we found anything concrete and no, I’m not sure now who it was. I’ll go back and try again… Sent from Windows Mail From: nancy jean baptiste Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 5:01 PM To: azores group Ok Sam...I'll take a look! However, I'm not sure I'll understand any better than you do! Did you and I find our connection on paper before all this DNA? I thought we did but without going back through all of our back and forth emails I'm not sure..you may not remember any more than I do! That was quite a while ago! Nancy Jean From: azores@googlegroups.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 23:49:08 + Nancy Jean; You are right, you should be added to the list to make 14 of us that seem to share the same dna. Now, if I’m reading the Matriz correctly and there is a good chance I’m not!, we all share dna with a William “Bill” Antoine; however, not all of us share the same dna. Don’t know if I’ve expressed that correctly. If you want to understand what I’m trying to say, go to ftdna ff and then down to Matrix. Put all 13 names in the grid, you’ll only be able to do 10 at a time. See if you come to the same conclusion as I or am I just not understanding what it is telling me? Hope you can understand this better than I, Sam Sent from Windows Mail From: nancy jean baptiste Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:25 PM To: azores group Hi Sam, Interesting that neither Uncle John or I show up as a match to you.I thought we actually determined a common ancestor a good while agoor I am I mistaken? Nancy Jean Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 14:10:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list From: bellema...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sam, I cannot find your email addy. Can you send it to my email addy? The Sharp name intrigued me and I think I have some info on this person and her Portuguese maiden name. She married a Sharp. No relation. E On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:02 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hello list; I just ran a comparison on FTDNA Family Finder Matrix. The 13 people below are shown as matches. I know William Coelho and Alfred Rose are 2nd cousins. The line goes from Fraga back to Silveira back to Machado on the island of Sao Jorge. My thought is, if the 13 of s compared notes and gedcoms, wouldn’t you think we could find the link? My gedcom is up on FTDNA and I know some of the others are as well. Perhaps if the rest of the 13 who do not have there gedcoms posted on FTDNA would post them, we might find the link? Does anyone else have an idea how to figure this out? Thanks, Sam (wandering around the U.S. in search of a home) William Coelho Alfred Rose William (Bill) Antoine Dennis Silva (Contact: Fawn) Manuel Soares Cunha (c/o Helen) Adeline Marie Amaral (Contact: Veronica) Shirley Adene Cooley David Maria Do Carmo Geraldine Martin Buzzie Mendonca Sharon Pereira-Driscoll Danae Andrea Sharp Emil Henry Silveira Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list
Me too! From: azores@googlegroups.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 00:03:57 + I think we found the line we surmised to be our connection but; I don't think we found anything concrete and no, I'm not sure now who it was. I'll go back and try again... Sent from Windows Mail From: nancy jean baptiste Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 5:01 PM To: azores group Ok Sam...I'll take a look! However, I'm not sure I'll understand any better than you do! Did you and I find our connection on paper before all this DNA? I thought we did but without going back through all of our back and forth emails I'm not sure..you may not remember any more than I do! That was quite a while ago! Nancy Jean From: azores@googlegroups.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 23:49:08 + Nancy Jean; You are right, you should be added to the list to make 14 of us that seem to share the same dna. Now, if I'm reading the Matriz correctly and there is a good chance I'm not!, we all share dna with a William Bill Antoine; however, not all of us share the same dna. Don't know if I've expressed that correctly. If you want to understand what I'm trying to say, go to ftdna ff and then down to Matrix. Put all 13 names in the grid, you'll only be able to do 10 at a time. See if you come to the same conclusion as I or am I just not understanding what it is telling me? Hope you can understand this better than I, Sam Sent from Windows Mail From: nancy jean baptiste Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 2:25 PM To: azores group Hi Sam, Interesting that neither Uncle John or I show up as a match to you.I thought we actually determined a common ancestor a good while agoor I am I mistaken? Nancy Jean Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 14:10:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Relationship of 13 people on list From: bellema...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sam, I cannot find your email addy. Can you send it to my email addy? The Sharp name intrigued me and I think I have some info on this person and her Portuguese maiden name. She married a Sharp. No relation. E On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:02 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Hello list; I just ran a comparison on FTDNA Family Finder Matrix. The 13 people below are shown as matches. I know William Coelho and Alfred Rose are 2nd cousins. The line goes from Fraga back to Silveira back to Machado on the island of Sao Jorge. My thought is, if the 13 of s compared notes and gedcoms, wouldn't you think we could find the link? My gedcom is up on FTDNA and I know some of the others are as well. Perhaps if the rest of the 13 who do not have there gedcoms posted on FTDNA would post them, we might find the link? Does anyone else have an idea how to figure this out? Thanks, Sam (wandering around the U.S. in search of a home) William Coelho Alfred Rose William (Bill) Antoine Dennis Silva (Contact: Fawn) Manuel Soares Cunha (c/o Helen) Adeline Marie Amaral (Contact: Veronica) Shirley Adene Cooley David Maria Do Carmo Geraldine Martin Buzzie Mendonca Sharon Pereira-Driscoll Danae Andrea Sharp Emil Henry Silveira Sent from Windows Mail -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google