RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Fascinating, Susan.I bet it came as a real surprise.And here I thought I was special with my 2.97% Native American. :-)My father got 6.84% Native American (Central American) from the Pima tribe. The map shows that is Mexico.But my map shows Mexico, along with all of the other Central American countries, plus Columbia and Bolivia in South America. The tribes are Maya, Pima, Surui, Columbian.Just why my results are more specific than my father's and get closer to my known origins in Chile, makes me wonder.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results From: Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com Date: Tue, November 05, 2013 10:33 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Azores@googlegroups.com I thought I would "join the cocktail party" because I tested both my brother and myself on Family Finder and we are of 100% Azorean ancestry.My brother came back 85.8% Western European….(French and Spanish) and 14.2 % North African (Mozabite)I came back as 97.58% Western European (Spanish) and 2.4%Cambodian, Han, Japanese, Lahu, Malay, MongolianAs has been said…Amuzing and confusing:)Susan Vargas Murphy -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Susan, It is interesting because I have matched your brother, but not you on Family Finder. I also came back Western European and North Africian. Diane On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:09 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Fascinating, Susan. I bet it came as a real surprise. And here I thought I was special with my 2.97% Native American. :-) My father got 6.84% Native American (Central American) from the Pima tribe. The map shows that is Mexico. But my map shows Mexico, along with all of the other Central American countries, plus Columbia and Bolivia in South America. The tribes are Maya, Pima, Surui, Columbian. Just why my results are more specific than my father's and get closer to my known origins in Chile, makes me wonder. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results From: Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com Date: Tue, November 05, 2013 10:33 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Azores@googlegroups.com I thought I would join the cocktail party because I tested both my brother and myself on Family Finder and we are of 100% Azorean ancestry. My brother came back 85.8% Western European….(French and Spanish) and 14.2 % North African (Mozabite) I came back as 97.58% Western European (Spanish) and 2.4% Cambodian, Han, Japanese, Lahu, Malay, Mongolian As has been said…Amuzing and confusing:) Susan Vargas Murphy -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Diane C, You will find that you will match one sibling (such as Susan's brother) but not the other (such as Susan) beginning around the 4th cousin and beyond level. The probability is in your Family Finder section, Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs), # 26. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Sorry Shirley I guess I did not answer this email. Her name is Agnes Cabral and I don't think so. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Diane C, You will find that you will match one sibling (such as Susan's brother) but not the other (such as Susan) beginning around the 4th cousin and beyond level. The probability is in your Family Finder section, Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs), # 26. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Thank you! I just found the Middle Eastern reference. I thought it might be in my non-Azorean ancestry, but having it in Susan's brother's may narrow it down. Diane On Wed Nov 06 14:28:33 CST 2013, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Diane C, You will find that you will match one sibling (such as Susan's brother) but not the other (such as Susan) beginning around the 4th cousin and beyond level. The probability is in your Family Finder section, Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs), # 26. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Diane, I also match Susan’s brother but not Susan. We have known (paper trail) for years that we are direct 6th cousins yet her brother caries more DNA of the line that Susan does. Cheri looked into our CM’s and I DO match Susan but FamilyTreeDNA doesn’t show it because it is smaller than Susan’s brother! Rosemarie From: Diane Cox Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 12:03 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results Susan, It is interesting because I have matched your brother, but not you on Family Finder. I also came back Western European and North Africian. Diane On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:09 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Fascinating, Susan. I bet it came as a real surprise. And here I thought I was special with my 2.97% Native American. :-) My father got 6.84% Native American (Central American) from the Pima tribe. The map shows that is Mexico. But my map shows Mexico, along with all of the other Central American countries, plus Columbia and Bolivia in South America. The tribes are Maya, Pima, Surui, Columbian. Just why my results are more specific than my father's and get closer to my known origins in Chile, makes me wonder. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results From: Susan Vargas Murphy uberlin...@aol.com Date: Tue, November 05, 2013 10:33 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Azores@googlegroups.com I thought I would join the cocktail party because I tested both my brother and myself on Family Finder and we are of 100% Azorean ancestry. My brother came back 85.8% Western European….(French and Spanish) and 14.2 % North African (Mozabite) I came back as 97.58% Western European (Spanish) and 2.4% Cambodian, Han, Japanese, Lahu, Malay, Mongolian As has been said…Amuzing and confusing:) Susan Vargas Murphy -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
I thought I would join the cocktail party because I tested both my brother and myself on Family Finder and we are of 100% Azorean ancestry. My brother came back 85.8% Western European….(French and Spanish) and 14.2 % North African (Mozabite) I came back as 97.58% Western European (Spanish) and 2.4% Cambodian, Han, Japanese, Lahu, Malay, Mongolian As has been said…Amuzing and confusing:) Susan Vargas Murphy On Sunday, November 3, 2013 5:09:52 PM UTC-8, his...@aol.com wrote: Cheri, Amusing and confusing! When I talked to you on the phone, I asked if it would be useless to test my brother with family finder, because I assumed we would be identical, and you said it might be different. You were right. I have 97.59% Western European and 2.41% Africa. My brother has 86.76.% Western Europe and 13.24% Middle Eastern (Northern Africa) On the map, my Africa is in the French West Africa including Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast Ghana and Nigeria. and the southern part including South Africa, Mozambique and Kenya. It even list the African tribes (if that's what their called?). Bantu Kenya, Bantu So. Africa, Biaka Pygmy and Mandenka. My brother doesn't list any of these, and I don't have any Middle Eastern. As far as I know all my grandparents were Portuguese, except I don't know about my grandfathers parents. I'm assuming his mother was Portuguese, but his father could have been some seaman on a ship that docked in Angra. My grandfather had blue eyes. I don,t think I'll every understand this DNA stuff. All I wanted was to find my grandfathers incognito's Helen Salvador Fremont, CA -Original Message- From: Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com javascript: To: azores azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:39 am Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results Pat N, The 4 reference populations used are: French, Basque, Spanish, and Orkney Islands (off of Scotland). There is NO Portuguese in the reference population. I think Portuguese Azoreans get put wherever. Until they roll out the new Population Finder with more reference populations, there not much to say about the Population Finder, except that it is amusing. Cheri On Nov 3, 2013 10:34 AM, Chuck Nostrome cns...@aol.com javascript: wrote: Doug, I keep trying to figure it out too. I came out 99.23% French. My fathers parents were from the Azores. His mother's side had some Flemish names. My mothers parents were Irish and English. I guessed maybe the Irish were from France. I heard a story that our Anselmo Vieiras had Basque or Spanish Jew in there from a distant cousin. Along that line the Basque provinces are in France and Spain. I now have kinder thoughts about the French. Genealogy is humbling. I guess it goes to what part of the DNA we inherited. Pat Nostrome Irvine, California -Original Message- From: pico pi...@dholmes.com javascript: To: azores azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2013 1:43 pm Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results My father's came up as 93% Spanish. Mine is 97% French. Since my mother is 50% German, about 25% Hungarian and 25% Slovak, I suppose when mixed with my father's Spanish, that equals French. Interesting math: Spanish + German/Hungarian/Slovak = French. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
this is basic science. Your DNA is only 50% from one parent, and that goes back forever. So the mixes keep happening. Just like one brother can have blue eyes and blonde hair and the other one green eyes and brown hair, none of us (except identical twins) have the same DNA. However, if the preponderence is of one and that is true of someone else, you are probably related through one parent (sometimes in Portuguese and other European lineages, through both because second and third cousins often married) which is not illegal (even in the US) and rarely leads to birth defects or genetic disease like cystic fibrosis (which comes from DNA that is too much alike and may carry recessive genes that when combined are no longer recessive but become dominant) Perhaps someone can clarify for me how the DNA genealogy test works since it would appear the only way to get much of a clear lineage is if there is a preponderence of similar genes. Fred On Nov 3, 2013, at 8:09 PM, his...@aol.com wrote: Cheri, Amusing and confusing! When I talked to you on the phone, I asked if it would be useless to test my brother with family finder, because I assumed we would be identical, and you said it might be different. You were right. I have 97.59% Western European and 2.41% Africa. My brother has 86.76.% Western Europe and 13.24% Middle Eastern (Northern Africa) On the map, my Africa is in the French West Africa including Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast Ghana and Nigeria. and the southern part including South Africa, Mozambique and Kenya. It even list the African tribes (if that's what their called?). Bantu Kenya, Bantu So. Africa, Biaka Pygmy and Mandenka. My brother doesn't list any of these, and I don't have any Middle Eastern. As far as I know all my grandparents were Portuguese, except I don't know about my grandfathers parents. I'm assuming his mother was Portuguese, but his father could have been some seaman on a ship that docked in Angra. My grandfather had blue eyes. I don,t think I'll every understand this DNA stuff. All I wanted was to find my grandfathers incognito's Helen Salvador Fremont, CA -Original Message- From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:39 am Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results Pat N, The 4 reference populations used are: French, Basque, Spanish, and Orkney Islands (off of Scotland). There is NO Portuguese in the reference population. I think Portuguese Azoreans get put wherever. Until they roll out the new Population Finder with more reference populations, there not much to say about the Population Finder, except that it is amusing. Cheri On Nov 3, 2013 10:34 AM, Chuck Nostrome cnsp...@aol.com wrote: Doug, I keep trying to figure it out too. I came out 99.23% French. My fathers parents were from the Azores. His mother's side had some Flemish names. My mothers parents were Irish and English. I guessed maybe the Irish were from France. I heard a story that our Anselmo Vieiras had Basque or Spanish Jew in there from a distant cousin. Along that line the Basque provinces are in France and Spain. I now have kinder thoughts about the French. Genealogy is humbling. I guess it goes to what part of the DNA we inherited. Pat Nostrome Irvine, California -Original Message- From: pico p...@dholmes.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2013 1:43 pm Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results My father's came up as 93% Spanish. Mine is 97% French. Since my mother is 50% German, about 25% Hungarian and 25% Slovak, I suppose when mixed with my father's Spanish, that equals French. Interesting math: Spanish + German/Hungarian/Slovak = French. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Fred all others reading his post, Basically what you have written is true. However, as a registered nurse who cares for neonates in the ICU, I have to clarify what you said about cousins marrying rarely leading to birth defects or genetic diseases. While there may be many times that such problems do not occur, at some point the intermarrying does lead to birth defects or genetic diseases often in the form of inborn errors of metabolism or other obscure defects that are not obviously apparent to the casual observer. Sometimes these defects do not declare themselves for a couple of generations. Lisa In a message dated 11/4/2013 7:21:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, fsouz...@comcast.net writes: this is basic science. Your DNA is only 50% from one parent, and that goes back forever. So the mixes keep happening. Just like one brother can have blue eyes and blonde hair and the other one green eyes and brown hair, none of us (except identical twins) have the same DNA. However, if the preponderence is of one and that is true of someone else, you are probably related through one parent (sometimes in Portuguese and other European lineages, through both because second and third cousins often married) which is not illegal (even in the US) and rarely leads to birth defects or genetic disease like cystic fibrosis (which comes from DNA that is too much alike and may carry recessive genes that when combined are no longer recessive but become dominant) Perhaps someone can clarify for me how the DNA genealogy test works since it would appear the only way to get much of a clear lineage is if there is a preponderence of similar genes. Fred On Nov 3, 2013, at 8:09 PM, _hisalv@aol.com_ (mailto:his...@aol.com) wrote: Cheri, Amusing and confusing! When I talked to you on the phone, I asked if it would be useless to test my brother with family finder, because I assumed we would be identical, and you said it might be different. You were right. I have 97.59% Western European and 2.41% Africa. My brother has 86.76.% Western Europe and 13.24% Middle Eastern (Northern Africa) On the map, my Africa is in the French West Africa including Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast Ghana and Nigeria. and the southern part including South Africa, Mozambique and Kenya. It even list the African tribes (if that's what their called?). Bantu Kenya, Bantu So. Africa, Biaka Pygmy and Mandenka. My brother doesn't list any of these, and I don't have any Middle Eastern. As far as I know all my grandparents were Portuguese, except I don't know about my grandfathers parents. I'm assuming his mother was Portuguese, but his father could have been some seaman on a ship that docked in Angra. My grandfather had blue eyes. I don,t think I'll every understand this DNA stuff. All I wanted was to find my grandfathers incognito's Helen Salvador Fremont, CA -Original Message- From: Cheri Mello _gfscherim@gmail.com_ (mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com) To: azores _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:39 am Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results Pat N, The 4 reference populations used are: French, Basque, Spanish, and Orkney Islands (off of Scotland). There is NO Portuguese in the reference population. I think Portuguese Azoreans get put wherever. Until they roll out the new Population Finder with more reference populations, there not much to say about the Population Finder, except that it is amusing. Cheri On Nov 3, 2013 10:34 AM, Chuck Nostrome _cnsport@aol.com_ (mailto:cnsp...@aol.com) wrote: Doug, I keep trying to figure it out too. I came out 99.23% French. My fathers parents were from the Azores. His mother's side had some Flemish names. My mothers parents were Irish and English. I guessed maybe the Irish were from France. I heard a story that our Anselmo Vieiras had Basque or Spanish Jew in there from a distant cousin. Along that line the Basque provinces are in France and Spain. I now have kinder thoughts about the French. Genealogy is humbling. I guess it goes to what part of the DNA we inherited. Pat Nostrome Irvine, California -Original Message- From: pico _pico@dholmes.com_ (mailto:p...@dholmes.com) To: azores _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2013 1:43 pm Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results My father's came up as 93% Spanish. Mine is 97% French. Since my mother is 50% German, about 25% Hungarian and 25% Slovak, I suppose when mixed with my father's Spanish, that equals French. Interesting math: Spanish + German/Hungarian/Slovak = French. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Doug, I keep trying to figure it out too. I came out 99.23% French. My fathers parents were from the Azores. His mother's side had some Flemish names. My mothers parents were Irish and English. I guessed maybe the Irish were from France. I heard a story that our Anselmo Vieiras had Basque or Spanish Jew in there from a distant cousin. Along that line the Basque provinces are in France and Spain. I now have kinder thoughts about the French. Genealogy is humbling. I guess it goes to what part of the DNA we inherited. Pat Nostrome Irvine, California -Original Message- From: pico p...@dholmes.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2013 1:43 pm Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results My father's came up as 93% Spanish. Mine is 97% French. Since my mother is 50% German, about 25% Hungarian and 25% Slovak, I suppose when mixed with my father's Spanish, that equals French. Interesting math: Spanish + German/Hungarian/Slovak = French. What it might be saying is that the Germans are lumped in with French. And I suppose an English or Irish person would also be listed as Orkney. Anyone know? It would also seem that my Population Finder percentages should be more like 40% Spanish, 25% French (if the Germans are lumped with French), and maybe 23% Orkney (if Slovaks and Hungarians are lumped with Orkney), to equal my 97% Western European. And that designation alone is also in question, now that my wife's test is back - Slovakia and Hungary are not in Western Europe. They are in central. If someone from Moscow tested, would they be Eastern European? I don't believe they have Central European so they are lumped with western. But maybe should be lumped with eastern, since we're talking about Slavs. I'll have to look for a waiter to get another drink at this cocktail party. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results From: p...@dholmes.com Date: Sat, November 02, 2013 12:57 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com My wife's Population Finder results with her 100% Slovak ancestry came up as 90% Orkney. Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Sat, November 02, 2013 12:17 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com The 4 Western European populations in the database are Basque, French, Spanish, and Orkney Islands. So Portuguese are fit into one of those 4. Until they get a wider population sample, you can kind of think of it as a cocktail party conversation piece. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Pat N, The 4 reference populations used are: French, Basque, Spanish, and
Orkney Islands (off of Scotland). There is NO Portuguese in the reference
population. I think Portuguese Azoreans get put wherever. Until they roll
out the new Population Finder with more reference populations, there not
much to say about the Population Finder, except that it is amusing. Cheri
On Nov 3, 2013 10:34 AM, Chuck Nostrome cnsp...@aol.com wrote:
Doug,
I keep trying to figure it out too. I came out 99.23% French.
My fathers parents were from the Azores. His mother's side had some
Flemish names.
My mothers parents were Irish and English.
I guessed maybe the Irish were from France.
I heard a story that our Anselmo Vieiras had Basque or Spanish Jew in
there from a distant cousin. Along that line the Basque provinces are in
France and Spain.
I now have kinder thoughts about the French. Genealogy is humbling. I
guess it goes to what part of the DNA we inherited.
Pat Nostrome
Irvine, California
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Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
My father's came up as 93% Spanish.
Mine is 97% French.
Since my mother is 50% German, about 25% Hungarian and 25% Slovak, I
suppose when mixed with my father's Spanish, that equals French.
Interesting math: Spanish + German/Hungarian/Slovak = French.
What it might be saying is that the Germans are lumped in with French.
And I suppose an English or Irish person would also be listed as Orkney.
Anyone know?
It would also seem that my Population Finder percentages should be more
like 40% Spanish, 25% French (if the Germans are lumped with French), and
maybe 23% Orkney (if Slovaks and Hungarians are lumped with Orkney), to
equal my 97% Western European. And that designation alone is also in
question, now that my wife's test is back - Slovakia and Hungary are not in
Western Europe. They are in central. If someone from Moscow tested, would
they be Eastern European? I don't believe they have Central European so
they are lumped with western. But maybe should be lumped with eastern,
since we're talking about Slavs.
I'll have to look for a waiter to get another drink at this cocktail
party.
Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618
www.dholmes.com
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Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
From: p...@dholmes.com
Date: Sat, November 02, 2013 12:57 pm
To: azores@googlegroups.com
My wife's Population Finder results with her 100% Slovak ancestry came
up as 90% Orkney.
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From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, November 02, 2013 12:17 pm
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The 4 Western European populations in the database are Basque, French,
Spanish, and Orkney Islands. So Portuguese are fit into one of those 4.
Until they get a wider population sample, you can kind of think of it as a
cocktail party conversation piece. Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Cheri, Amusing and confusing! When I talked to you on the phone, I asked if it would be useless to test my brother with family finder, because I assumed we would be identical, and you said it might be different. You were right. I have 97.59% Western European and 2.41% Africa. My brother has 86.76.% Western Europe and 13.24% Middle Eastern (Northern Africa) On the map, my Africa is in the French West Africa including Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast Ghana and Nigeria. and the southern part including South Africa, Mozambique and Kenya. It even list the African tribes (if that's what their called?). Bantu Kenya, Bantu So. Africa, Biaka Pygmy and Mandenka. My brother doesn't list any of these, and I don't have any Middle Eastern. I don,t think I'll every understand this DNA stuff. All I wanted was to find my grandfathers incognito's Helen Salvador Fremont, CA -Original Message- From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:39 am Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results Pat N, The 4 reference populations used are: French, Basque, Spanish, and Orkney Islands (off of Scotland). There is NO Portuguese in the reference population. I think Portuguese Azoreans get put wherever. Until they roll out the new Population Finder with more reference populations, there not much to say about the Population Finder, except that it is amusing. Cheri On Nov 3, 2013 10:34 AM, Chuck Nostrome cnsp...@aol.com wrote: Doug, I keep trying to figure it out too. I came out 99.23% French. My fathers parents were from the Azores. His mother's side had some Flemish names. My mothers parents were Irish and English. I guessed maybe the Irish were from France. I heard a story that our Anselmo Vieiras had Basque or Spanish Jew in there from a distant cousin. Along that line the Basque provinces are in France and Spain. I now have kinder thoughts about the French. Genealogy is humbling. I guess it goes to what part of the DNA we inherited. Pat Nostrome Irvine, California -Original Message- From: pico p...@dholmes.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2013 1:43 pm Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results My father's came up as 93% Spanish. Mine is 97% French. Since my mother is 50% German, about 25% Hungarian and 25% Slovak, I suppose when mixed with my father's Spanish, that equals French. Interesting math: Spanish + German/Hungarian/Slovak = French. What it might be saying is that the Germans are lumped in with French. And I suppose an English or Irish person would also be listed as Orkney. Anyone know? It would also seem that my Population Finder percentages should be more like 40% Spanish, 25% French (if the Germans are lumped with French), and maybe 23% Orkney (if Slovaks and Hungarians are lumped with Orkney), to equal my 97% Western European. And that designation alone is also in question, now that my wife's test is back - Slovakia and Hungary are not in Western Europe. They are in central. If someone from Moscow tested, would they be Eastern European? I don't believe they have Central European so they are lumped with western. But maybe should be lumped with eastern, since we're talking about Slavs. I'll have to look for a waiter to get another drink at this cocktail party. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results From: p...@dholmes.com Date: Sat, November 02, 2013 12:57 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com My wife's Population Finder results with her 100% Slovak ancestry came up as 90% Orkney. Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Sat, November 02, 2013 12:17 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com The 4 Western European populations in the database are Basque, French, Spanish, and Orkney Islands. So Portuguese are fit into one of those 4. Until they get a wider population sample, you can kind of think of it as a cocktail party conversation piece. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
I have completed four family finders with Family Tree DNA on myself, my sister, my late Father, and his 1st Cousin. The known ethinecty on each are: My Father: 100% Acorean Portuguese My Sister: 50% Acorean Portuguese 50% French Canadian Me : 50% Acorean Portuguese 50% French Canadian My Fathers 1st Counsn: 50% Acorean Portuguese 50% French Canadian The Population Finder shows: My Father: 98.9% Spanish My Sister: 99.44% French Me: 92.54% French and 7.46% Iranian, Jewish, Mozabite, Palestinian, Bedouin, Bedouin South, Druze My father's 1st Cousin: 92.02% French, Spanish and 7.98% Adygei, Bedouin, Druze, Iranian, Jewish, Mozabite, Palestinian One thing I do know as well My Dads MtDNA is haplogroup L2 which is African in origin and not Common in the Azores. My Dad 1st Cousin's mother was French Canadian and as such is not in that group. What you see above you would think that my sister and I would be the same and My dad and his 1st Cousin would be somewhat close. May be over time we will understand all of this. PS. My sister and I got a brother/sister match J and all four of us showed the correct relationship range in the matches. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of his...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2013 3:57 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results Cheri, Amusing and confusing! When I talked to you on the phone, I asked if it would be useless to test my brother with family finder, because I assumed we would be identical, and you said it might be different. You were right. I have 97.59% Western European and 2.41% Africa. My brother has 86.76.% Western Europe and 13.24% Middle Eastern (Northern Africa) On the map, my Africa is in the French West Africa including Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast Ghana and Nigeria. and the southern part including South Africa, Mozambique and Kenya. It even list the African tribes (if that's what their called?). Bantu Kenya, Bantu So. Africa, Biaka Pygmy and Mandenka. My brother doesn't list any of these, and I don't have any Middle Eastern. I don,t think I'll every understand this DNA stuff. All I wanted was to find my grandfathers incognito's Helen Salvador Fremont, CA -Original Message- From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:39 am Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results Pat N, The 4 reference populations used are: French, Basque, Spanish, and Orkney Islands (off of Scotland). There is NO Portuguese in the reference population. I think Portuguese Azoreans get put wherever. Until they roll out the new Population Finder with more reference populations, there not much to say about the Population Finder, except that it is amusing. Cheri On Nov 3, 2013 10:34 AM, Chuck Nostrome cnsp...@aol.com wrote: Doug, I keep trying to figure it out too. I came out 99.23% French. My fathers parents were from the Azores. His mother's side had some Flemish names. My mothers parents were Irish and English. I guessed maybe the Irish were from France. I heard a story that our Anselmo Vieiras had Basque or Spanish Jew in there from a distant cousin. Along that line the Basque provinces are in France and Spain. I now have kinder thoughts about the French. Genealogy is humbling. I guess it goes to what part of the DNA we inherited. Pat Nostrome Irvine, California -Original Message- From: pico p...@dholmes.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2013 1:43 pm Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results My father's came up as 93% Spanish. Mine is 97% French. Since my mother is 50% German, about 25% Hungarian and 25% Slovak, I suppose when mixed with my father's Spanish, that equals French. Interesting math: Spanish + German/Hungarian/Slovak = French. What it might be saying is that the Germans are lumped in with French. And I suppose an English or Irish person would also be listed as Orkney. Anyone know? It would also seem that my Population Finder percentages should be more like 40% Spanish, 25% French (if the Germans are lumped with French), and maybe 23% Orkney (if Slovaks and Hungarians are lumped with Orkney), to equal my 97% Western European
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Cheri, Amusing and confusing! When I talked to you on the phone, I asked if it would be useless to test my brother with family finder, because I assumed we would be identical, and you said it might be different. You were right. I have 97.59% Western European and 2.41% Africa. My brother has 86.76.% Western Europe and 13.24% Middle Eastern (Northern Africa) On the map, my Africa is in the French West Africa including Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast Ghana and Nigeria. and the southern part including South Africa, Mozambique and Kenya. It even list the African tribes (if that's what their called?). Bantu Kenya, Bantu So. Africa, Biaka Pygmy and Mandenka. My brother doesn't list any of these, and I don't have any Middle Eastern. As far as I know all my grandparents were Portuguese, except I don't know about my grandfathers parents. I'm assuming his mother was Portuguese, but his father could have been some seaman on a ship that docked in Angra. My grandfather had blue eyes. I don,t think I'll every understand this DNA stuff. All I wanted was to find my grandfathers incognito's Helen Salvador Fremont, CA -Original Message- From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:39 am Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results Pat N, The 4 reference populations used are: French, Basque, Spanish, and Orkney Islands (off of Scotland). There is NO Portuguese in the reference population. I think Portuguese Azoreans get put wherever. Until they roll out the new Population Finder with more reference populations, there not much to say about the Population Finder, except that it is amusing. Cheri On Nov 3, 2013 10:34 AM, Chuck Nostrome cnsp...@aol.com wrote: Doug, I keep trying to figure it out too. I came out 99.23% French. My fathers parents were from the Azores. His mother's side had some Flemish names. My mothers parents were Irish and English. I guessed maybe the Irish were from France. I heard a story that our Anselmo Vieiras had Basque or Spanish Jew in there from a distant cousin. Along that line the Basque provinces are in France and Spain. I now have kinder thoughts about the French. Genealogy is humbling. I guess it goes to what part of the DNA we inherited. Pat Nostrome Irvine, California -Original Message- From: pico p...@dholmes.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2013 1:43 pm Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results My father's came up as 93% Spanish. Mine is 97% French. Since my mother is 50% German, about 25% Hungarian and 25% Slovak, I suppose when mixed with my father's Spanish, that equals French. Interesting math: Spanish + German/Hungarian/Slovak = French. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
The 4 Western European populations in the database are Basque, French, Spanish, and Orkney Islands. So Portuguese are fit into one of those 4. Until they get a wider population sample, you can kind of think of it as a cocktail party conversation piece. Cheri On Nov 2, 2013 11:01 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: So finally the results came in for ex husbands grandmother. She is showing 85.84% Basque, Spanish. Is that the norm for people from Azores? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Yea, that's a little strange. Why isn't German there? Why not Slav? I think they lump them in with Orkney and maybe because of the high concentration of Viking blood in the DNA of the Orkney population.I think it will be refined eventually.My wife's Population Finder results with her 100% Slovak ancestry came up as 90% Orkney.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Sat, November 02, 2013 12:17 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com The 4 Western European populations in the database are Basque, French, Spanish, and Orkney Islands. So Portuguese are "fit" into one of those 4. Until they get a wider population sample, you can kind of think of it as a cocktail party conversation piece. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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Those were the samples that were in population sample at the time they started running the ethnicities. And that was 3 or more years ago. A lot has changed since then. Ancestry DNA and 23 and Me have both just recently rolled out new ethnicities, so I suspect FTDNA will have an announcement about their new rollout next weekend at their DNA conference. Cheri On Nov 2, 2013 12:57 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Yea, that's a little strange. Why isn't German there? Why not Slav? I think they lump them in with Orkney and maybe because of the high concentration of Viking blood in the DNA of the Orkney population. I think it will be refined eventually. My wife's Population Finder results with her 100% Slovak ancestry came up as 90% Orkney. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Sat, November 02, 2013 12:17 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com The 4 Western European populations in the database are Basque, French, Spanish, and Orkney Islands. So Portuguese are fit into one of those 4. Until they get a wider population sample, you can kind of think of it as a cocktail party conversation piece. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
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My father's came up as 93% Spanish.Mine is 97% French.Since my mother is 50% German, about 25% Hungarian and 25% Slovak, I suppose when mixed with my father's Spanish, that equals French. Interesting math: Spanish + German/Hungarian/Slovak = French.What it might be saying is that the Germans are lumped in with French.And I suppose an English or Irish person would also be listed as Orkney. Anyone know?It would also seem that my Population Finder percentages should be more like 40% Spanish, 25% French (if the Germans are lumped with French), and maybe 23% Orkney (if Slovaks and Hungarians are lumped with Orkney), to equal my 97% Western European. And that designation alone is also in question, now that my wife's test is back - Slovakia and Hungary are not in Western Europe. They are in central. If someone from Moscow tested, would they be Eastern European? I don't believe they have Central European so they are lumped with western. But maybe should be lumped with eastern, since we're talking about Slavs.I'll have to look for a waiter to get another drink at this cocktail party.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results From: p...@dholmes.com Date: Sat, November 02, 2013 12:57 pm To: azores@googlegroups.comMy wife's Population Finder results with her 100% Slovak ancestry came up as 90% Orkney. Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Sat, November 02, 2013 12:17 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com The 4 Western European populations in the database are Basque, French, Spanish, and Orkney Islands. So Portuguese are "fit" into one of those 4. Until they get a wider population sample, you can kind of think of it as a cocktail party conversation piece. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Yes on my Dad's irish side a relative tested 100% Orkny, His national Geographcis did too, he said something like only 1% of population is what he has (not sure if that pertains to the Orkney or not) On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 1:42 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: My father's came up as 93% Spanish. Mine is 97% French. Since my mother is 50% German, about 25% Hungarian and 25% Slovak, I suppose when mixed with my father's Spanish, that equals French. Interesting math: Spanish + German/Hungarian/Slovak = French. What it might be saying is that the Germans are lumped in with French. And I suppose an English or Irish person would also be listed as Orkney. Anyone know? It would also seem that my Population Finder percentages should be more like 40% Spanish, 25% French (if the Germans are lumped with French), and maybe 23% Orkney (if Slovaks and Hungarians are lumped with Orkney), to equal my 97% Western European. And that designation alone is also in question, now that my wife's test is back - Slovakia and Hungary are not in Western Europe. They are in central. If someone from Moscow tested, would they be Eastern European? I don't believe they have Central European so they are lumped with western. But maybe should be lumped with eastern, since we're talking about Slavs. I'll have to look for a waiter to get another drink at this cocktail party. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results From: p...@dholmes.com Date: Sat, November 02, 2013 12:57 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com My wife's Population Finder results with her 100% Slovak ancestry came up as 90% Orkney. Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Sat, November 02, 2013 12:17 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com The 4 Western European populations in the database are Basque, French, Spanish, and Orkney Islands. So Portuguese are fit into one of those 4. Until they get a wider population sample, you can kind of think of it as a cocktail party conversation piece. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
Doug, I'm unable to have access to my admin page. But if you log in and go to Family Finder and look for the FAQs, you will see What reference populations are used? It's about question 3 or 4. Cheri On Nov 2, 2013 1:43 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: My father's came up as 93% Spanish. Mine is 97% French. Since my mother is 50% German, about 25% Hungarian and 25% Slovak, I suppose when mixed with my father's Spanish, that equals French. Interesting math: Spanish + German/Hungarian/Slovak = French. What it might be saying is that the Germans are lumped in with French. And I suppose an English or Irish person would also be listed as Orkney. Anyone know? It would also seem that my Population Finder percentages should be more like 40% Spanish, 25% French (if the Germans are lumped with French), and maybe 23% Orkney (if Slovaks and Hungarians are lumped with Orkney), to equal my 97% Western European. And that designation alone is also in question, now that my wife's test is back - Slovakia and Hungary are not in Western Europe. They are in central. If someone from Moscow tested, would they be Eastern European? I don't believe they have Central European so they are lumped with western. But maybe should be lumped with eastern, since we're talking about Slavs. I'll have to look for a waiter to get another drink at this cocktail party. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results From: p...@dholmes.com Date: Sat, November 02, 2013 12:57 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com My wife's Population Finder results with her 100% Slovak ancestry came up as 90% Orkney. Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Sat, November 02, 2013 12:17 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com The 4 Western European populations in the database are Basque, French, Spanish, and Orkney Islands. So Portuguese are fit into one of those 4. Until they get a wider population sample, you can kind of think of it as a cocktail party conversation piece. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA results that came in on Thursday
FTDNA matches for Family Finder are now working. Guess they got it fixed this a.m. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA results that came in on Thursday
Is anyone else having problems signing in? I haven't been able to see my results because it won't take my password nor the one they sent me when I said I forgot my password. JoElayne Ferre' Johnson From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:59 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA results that came in on Thursday The Family Finder results that came in on Thursdaysomething is a little bit off. I don't think that the last batch of results is talking to the ENTIRE database. And so many people have few or no matches at all! Or portions are missing (someone with a lot of Jewish had her mom's come in with the last batch and her mom has no Jewish and that's where the Jewish line is!) I'll report this to FTDNA Friday morning. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA results that came in on Thursday
JoElayne, I signed in as an admin and then as my dad. It worked both times. I checked to see if your or Frank's name was on the Kit Authorization list and it's not. The only thing I can tell you is to call FTDNA at 713-868-1438 and tell them you can't sign in. Make sure you aren't flipping a couple of digits around in the kit number though. Like 2365 is 2635 or something. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA results that came in on Thursday
I just got off the phone with FTDNA. There is glitch in their system with the batch that came in last night. It's not talking to the entire database. Information Technology (IT) is working on it right now, but FTDNA could not say when the problem would be resolved. I'll check back later today and let everyone know when it is fixed. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree DNA results that came in on Thursday
I checked at lunch time (in California) and things were not right with the FTDNA site. It's almost 6pm PDT and things still are not right. I'll post when their web site is functioning properly. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
