Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name--Marriage, Relva, 1774

2016-06-23 Thread Nancy Couto 
Yes, I can see it now. The marriage record also shows an exaggerated "R" in
the word "Relva" four lines up from the bottom. Obviously this part of my
family tree is still a work in progress, but now I have something to look
for.

Thanks.
Nancy


On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote:

> *Looking at the names on the baptism of Anna the writer in transitioning
> from the capitol “A” to the small “r” made the “r” more elaborate than
> normal. In both cases the name on this record is “Aruda” in todays spelling
> Arruda.  Going back to the marriage record it now looks that the writer
> wrote in the same way Aru – da. The Aru is squeezed together making it hard
> to read.*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Nancy Couto
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:44 PM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name--Marriage, Relva, 1774
>
>
>
> Thanks, Rosemarie, Rick, and Manoel. I have the baptisms of four of their
> children, and Antonia's surname is given as "dos Santos" on all but one of
> them. I was thinking of it as her religious name, but it could be a surname.
>
>
>
> I like the suggestion of "de Ruda" however, because two of the children
> had, as godparents, children of Joana Tavares, widow of Joam de Arruda.
> (Actually, it looks more like "Aluda," and I was wondering whether Joana's
> late husband might have been a relative and whether Antonia's surname could
> have been either Arruda or Almeida.
>
>
>
> Here is the link to one of the baptisms (Anna, right page, top):
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1743-1760/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1743-1760_item1/P89.html
>
>
>
> Thanks again for the input.
>
>
>
> Nancy
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 8:03 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nancy,
>
>
>
> I have seen "de Arruda" written as "da Ruda". Not sure but maybe is "de
> Ruda" (de Arruda).
>
> You have to look for the children born to this couple or all the marriages
> of their children to figure it out..
>
>
>
> Manoel
>
> Em quarta-feira, 22 de junho de 2016 20:41:31 UTC-3, Richard Francis
> Pimentel escreveu:
>
> *I don’t think it is Machada. The first letter is definitely not an “M”
> and the writer spelled all the other names out fully so an abbreviation
> there makes no sense.  I am not sure but the name is not common.*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com
> <azo...@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Rosemarie Capodicci
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2016 1:03 PM
> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name--Marriage, Relva, 1774
>
>
>
> Possibly Machada?? You will have to try and find that couple having
> children to verify, Nancy!!
>
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
> rcap...@gmail.com
>
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 9:55 AM, NancyC <nvcou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Can anyone help me decipher the second name (surname or religious name) of
> the groom's mother? (Right page, lines 19-20.) I've been staring at it for
> two days and am totally baffled. Here's what I have:
>
>
>
> Francisco de Couto, filho de Antonio do Couto, e de Antonia de __?
> What looks like a three-letter word or abbreviation ends the line, and the
> next line starts with "da." In context the word "da" does not make sense,
> so I believe it is a continuation of the three-letters on the previous
> line. I've checked the Family Search guides to Portuguese paleography and
> can't find anything that matches.
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780_item1/P94.html
>
>
>
> I will appreciate any insights or advice you can offer.
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Nancy
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail
> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at
> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the
> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name--Marriage, Relva, 1774

2016-06-22 Thread Nancy Couto 
Thanks, Rosemarie, Rick, and Manoel. I have the baptisms of four of their
children, and Antonia's surname is given as "dos Santos" on all but one of
them. I was thinking of it as her religious name, but it could be a surname.

I like the suggestion of "de Ruda" however, because two of the children
had, as godparents, children of Joana Tavares, widow of Joam de Arruda.
(Actually, it looks more like "Aluda," and I was wondering whether Joana's
late husband might have been a relative and whether Antonia's surname could
have been either Arruda or Almeida.

Here is the link to one of the baptisms (Anna, right page, top):

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1743-1760/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1743-1760_item1/P89.html

Thanks again for the input.

Nancy


On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 8:03 PM, mances <man...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nancy,
>
> I have seen "de Arruda" written as "da Ruda". Not sure but maybe is "de
> Ruda" (de Arruda).
> You have to look for the children born to this couple or all the marriages
> of their children to figure it out..
>
> Manoel
>
> Em quarta-feira, 22 de junho de 2016 20:41:31 UTC-3, Richard Francis
> Pimentel escreveu:
>>
>> *I don’t think it is Machada. The first letter is definitely not an “M”
>> and the writer spelled all the other names out fully so an abbreviation
>> there makes no sense.  I am not sure but the name is not common.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rick*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>
>> *Epping, NH*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Rosemarie Capodicci
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2016 1:03 PM
>> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name--Marriage, Relva, 1774
>>
>>
>>
>> Possibly Machada?? You will have to try and find that couple having
>> children to verify, Nancy!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie
>>
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 9:55 AM, NancyC <nvcou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone help me decipher the second name (surname or religious name)
>> of the groom's mother? (Right page, lines 19-20.) I've been staring at it
>> for two days and am totally baffled. Here's what I have:
>>
>>
>>
>> Francisco de Couto, filho de Antonio do Couto, e de Antonia de
>> __? What looks like a three-letter word or abbreviation ends the
>> line, and the next line starts with "da." In context the word "da" does not
>> make sense, so I believe it is a continuation of the three-letters on the
>> previous line. I've checked the Family Search guides to Portuguese
>> paleography and can't find anything that matches.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780_item1/P94.html
>>
>>
>>
>> I will appreciate any insights or advice you can offer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Nancy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail
>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at
>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the
>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my
>> membership."
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "Azores Genealogy" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail
>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at
>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the
>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my
>> membership."
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "Azores Genealogy" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at htt

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name--Marriage, Relva, 1774

2016-06-22 Thread mances 
Nancy,

I have seen "de Arruda" written as "da Ruda". Not sure but maybe is "de 
Ruda" (de Arruda).
You have to look for the children born to this couple or all the marriages 
of their children to figure it out..

Manoel

Em quarta-feira, 22 de junho de 2016 20:41:31 UTC-3, Richard Francis 
Pimentel escreveu:
>
> *I don’t think it is Machada. The first letter is definitely not an “M” 
> and the writer spelled all the other names out fully so an abbreviation 
> there makes no sense.  I am not sure but the name is not common.*
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
>  
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Rosemarie Capodicci
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2016 1:03 PM
> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name--Marriage, Relva, 1774
>
>  
>
> Possibly Machada?? You will have to try and find that couple having 
> children to verify, Nancy!! 
>
>  
>
>
> Rosemarie 
>
> rcap...@gmail.com 
>
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
>  
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 9:55 AM, NancyC <nvcou...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
> Can anyone help me decipher the second name (surname or religious name) of 
> the groom's mother? (Right page, lines 19-20.) I've been staring at it for 
> two days and am totally baffled. Here's what I have:
>
>  
>
> Francisco de Couto, filho de Antonio do Couto, e de Antonia de __? 
> What looks like a three-letter word or abbreviation ends the line, and the 
> next line starts with "da." In context the word "da" does not make sense, 
> so I believe it is a continuation of the three-letters on the previous 
> line. I've checked the Family Search guides to Portuguese paleography and 
> can't find anything that matches. 
>
>  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780_item1/P94.html
>
>  
>
> I will appreciate any insights or advice you can offer.
>
>  
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Nancy
>
>  
>
>  
>
> -- 
> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail 
> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the 
> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my 
> membership."
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>
>  
>
> -- 
> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail 
> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at 
> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the 
> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my 
> membership."
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>

-- 
For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) 
mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/Azores.  Click in the blue area on the right 
that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name--Marriage, Relva, 1774

2016-06-22 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel 
I don’t think it is Machada. The first letter is definitely not an “M” and the 
writer spelled all the other names out fully so an abbreviation there makes no 
sense.  I am not sure but the name is not common.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rosemarie Capodicci
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 1:03 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name--Marriage, Relva, 1774

 

Possibly Machada?? You will have to try and find that couple having children to 
verify, Nancy!! 

 




Rosemarie 

 <mailto:rcap...@gmail.com> rcap...@gmail.com

Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 9:55 AM, NancyC <nvcouto...@gmail.com> wrote:

Can anyone help me decipher the second name (surname or religious name) of the 
groom's mother? (Right page, lines 19-20.) I've been staring at it for two days 
and am totally baffled. Here's what I have:

 

Francisco de Couto, filho de Antonio do Couto, e de Antonia de __? What 
looks like a three-letter word or abbreviation ends the line, and the next line 
starts with "da." In context the word "da" does not make sense, so I believe it 
is a continuation of the three-letters on the previous line. I've checked the 
Family Search guides to Portuguese paleography and can't find anything that 
matches. 

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780_item1/P94.html

 

I will appreciate any insights or advice you can offer.

 

Many thanks,

Nancy

 

 

-- 
For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) 
mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that 
says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

 

-- 
For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) 
mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that 
says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

-- 
For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) 
mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/Azores.  Click in the blue area on the right 
that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with name--Marriage, Relva, 1774

2016-06-22 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci 
Possibly Machada?? You will have to try and find that couple having
children to verify, Nancy!!


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 9:55 AM, NancyC  wrote:

> Can anyone help me decipher the second name (surname or religious name) of
> the groom's mother? (Right page, lines 19-20.) I've been staring at it for
> two days and am totally baffled. Here's what I have:
>
> Francisco de Couto, filho de Antonio do Couto, e de Antonia de __?
> What looks like a three-letter word or abbreviation ends the line, and the
> next line starts with "da." In context the word "da" does not make sense,
> so I believe it is a continuation of the three-letters on the previous
> line. I've checked the Family Search guides to Portuguese paleography and
> can't find anything that matches.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780_item1/P94.html
>
> I will appreciate any insights or advice you can offer.
>
> Many thanks,
> Nancy
>
>
> --
> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail
> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at
> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the
> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my
> membership."
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Azores Genealogy" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
>

-- 
For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) 
mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/Azores.  Click in the blue area on the right 
that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Azores Genealogy" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.