Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Confirm my Pedro Rabello's birth.
Manoel, I descend from their son Pedro Rabello--10th g-grandfather. I have: Gaspar b.Feb 1563 p.3 ?? Gaspar Rabello maried Ma Rois fa Miguel Rois (deceased) e ? Ges. 21 Oct 1592 p.28 Cna b.Dec 1565 p.28 ?? Domingos b.5 Oct 1567 p.59 Guimar b.31 Oct 1571 p.130 Baltazar b.25 Aug 1579 Padrinhos--Baltazar Rois fo Pedro Amador Rois & Margarida de Sousa mulher de Fernao Pinho p. 266nto b.19 Mar 1573 p.150 Maria b.26 Feb 1576 Padrinhos--Bras Martins e Isabel de Matos? p. 211 Pedro b.25 Mar 1585 p.20 Looking for more info on Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 5:11 PM, mances wrote: > Sandra, > > Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias are my ancestors too. I descend from their > son Baltazar Rebelo. > > Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande: > . Guiomar, b. 31.10.1571 - CCA #130. Pd: Nicolau Gonçalves e Helena Manuel. > . Maria, b. 28.2.1576 - CCA #211. Filha de Francisco Afonso, da > Ribeirinha, e de Maria Dias. Pd: Braz Martins e Isabel de Matos. > . Pedro, b. 25.3.1585 - CCA #20. Pd: Francisco Pires Paiva e a parteira > Catarina Gonçalves. > > Manoel Cesar Furtado > > Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 19:55:49 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: >> >> Is this my Pedro? It is the only one that comes close. Pedro Rabello fo >> Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias married Luisa Correia fa Antonio Jorge and >> Maria Mel. >> >> Birth 25 Mar 1585--top right. >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590_item1/P20.html >> >> Marriage 6 Dec 1610--3rd on left. >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625_item1/P90.html >> >> >> >> -- >> Sandra Perez >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Sandra Perez -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Confirm my Pedro Rabello's birth.
Sandra, Francisco Afonso is in RR's book: CAPÍTULO 225.º DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE FRANCISCO AFONSO § Único 1 - Francisco Afonso, já falecido em 1602. Casou na Matriz da Ribeira Grande em Novembro de 1560 (folhas 20 do Livro 1.º) com Maria Dias, ou Rodrigues, já falecida em 1602. O termo não diz os nomes dos pais dos nubentes. Manoel Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 22:46:17 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: > > Manoel, I descend from their son Pedro Rabello--10th g-grandfather. > > I have: Gaspar b.Feb 1563 p.3 ?? Gaspar Rabello maried Ma Rois fa Miguel > Rois (deceased) e ? Ges. 21 Oct 1592 p.28 > Cna b.Dec 1565 p.28 ?? > Domingos b.5 Oct 1567 p.59 > Guimar b.31 Oct 1571 p.130 > Baltazar b.25 Aug 1579 Padrinhos--Baltazar Rois fo Pedro Amador Rois & > Margarida de Sousa mulher de Fernao Pinho p. 266nto b.19 Mar 1573 p.150 > Maria b.26 Feb 1576 Padrinhos--Bras Martins e Isabel de Matos? p. 211 > Pedro b.25 Mar 1585 p.20 > > Looking for more info on Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias > > On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 5:11 PM, mances > > wrote: > >> Sandra, >> >> Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias are my ancestors too. I descend from >> their son Baltazar Rebelo. >> >> Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande: >> . Guiomar, b. 31.10.1571 - CCA #130. Pd: Nicolau Gonçalves e Helena >> Manuel. >> . Maria, b. 28.2.1576 - CCA #211. Filha de Francisco Afonso, da >> Ribeirinha, e de Maria Dias. Pd: Braz Martins e Isabel de Matos. >> . Pedro, b. 25.3.1585 - CCA #20. Pd: Francisco Pires Paiva e a parteira >> Catarina Gonçalves. >> >> Manoel Cesar Furtado >> >> Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 19:55:49 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: >>> >>> Is this my Pedro? It is the only one that comes close. Pedro Rabello fo >>> Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias married Luisa Correia fa Antonio Jorge and >>> Maria Mel. >>> >>> Birth 25 Mar 1585--top right. >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590_item1/P20.html >>> >>> Marriage 6 Dec 1610--3rd on left. >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625_item1/P90.html >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sandra Perez >>> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > Sandra Perez > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Confirm my Pedro Rabello's birth.
Manoel, does it who their parents were? If they married in 1560 there should be other children. On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 6:27 PM, mances wrote: > Sandra, > > Francisco Afonso is in RR's book: > > CAPÍTULO 225.º > DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE FRANCISCO AFONSO > § Único > 1 - Francisco Afonso, já falecido em 1602. Casou na Matriz da Ribeira > Grande em Novembro de 1560 (folhas 20 do Livro 1.º) com Maria Dias, ou > Rodrigues, já falecida em 1602. O termo não diz os nomes dos pais dos > nubentes. > > Manoel > > > Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 22:46:17 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: >> >> Manoel, I descend from their son Pedro Rabello--10th g-grandfather. >> >> I have: Gaspar b.Feb 1563 p.3 ?? Gaspar Rabello maried Ma Rois fa Miguel >> Rois (deceased) e ? Ges. 21 Oct 1592 p.28 >> Cna b.Dec 1565 p.28 ?? >> Domingos b.5 Oct 1567 p.59 >> Guimar b.31 Oct 1571 p.130 >> Baltazar b.25 Aug 1579 Padrinhos--Baltazar Rois fo Pedro Amador Rois & >> Margarida de Sousa mulher de Fernao Pinho p. 266nto b.19 Mar 1573 p.150 >> Maria b.26 Feb 1576 Padrinhos--Bras Martins e Isabel de Matos? p. 211 >> Pedro b.25 Mar 1585 p.20 >> >> Looking for more info on Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias >> >> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 5:11 PM, mances wrote: >> >>> Sandra, >>> >>> Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias are my ancestors too. I descend from >>> their son Baltazar Rebelo. >>> >>> Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande: >>> . Guiomar, b. 31.10.1571 - CCA #130. Pd: Nicolau Gonçalves e Helena >>> Manuel. >>> . Maria, b. 28.2.1576 - CCA #211. Filha de Francisco Afonso, da >>> Ribeirinha, e de Maria Dias. Pd: Braz Martins e Isabel de Matos. >>> . Pedro, b. 25.3.1585 - CCA #20. Pd: Francisco Pires Paiva e a parteira >>> Catarina Gonçalves. >>> >>> Manoel Cesar Furtado >>> >>> Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 19:55:49 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: Is this my Pedro? It is the only one that comes close. Pedro Rabello fo Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias married Luisa Correia fa Antonio Jorge and Maria Mel. Birth 25 Mar 1585--top right. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590_item1/P20.html Marriage 6 Dec 1610--3rd on left. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625_item1/P90.html -- Sandra Perez >>> -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>> membership." >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sandra Perez >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Sandra Perez -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Confirm my Pedro Rabello's birth.
Sandra, According to RR the record doesn´t list the parents. Francisco Afonso x Maria Rodrigues (sic) - bottom, left page: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1542-1582/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1542-1582_item1/P24.html Manoel Em segunda-feira, 7 de março de 2016 11:52:22 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: > > Manoel, does it who their parents were? If they married in 1560 there > should be other children. > > On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 6:27 PM, mances > > wrote: > >> Sandra, >> >> Francisco Afonso is in RR's book: >> >> CAPÍTULO 225.º >> DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE FRANCISCO AFONSO >> § Único >> 1 - Francisco Afonso, já falecido em 1602. Casou na Matriz da Ribeira >> Grande em Novembro de 1560 (folhas 20 do Livro 1.º) com Maria Dias, ou >> Rodrigues, já falecida em 1602. O termo não diz os nomes dos pais dos >> nubentes. >> >> Manoel >> >> >> Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 22:46:17 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: >>> >>> Manoel, I descend from their son Pedro Rabello--10th g-grandfather. >>> >>> I have: Gaspar b.Feb 1563 p.3 ?? Gaspar Rabello maried Ma Rois fa >>> Miguel Rois (deceased) e ? Ges. 21 Oct 1592 p.28 >>> Cna b.Dec 1565 p.28 ?? >>> Domingos b.5 Oct 1567 p.59 >>> Guimar b.31 Oct 1571 p.130 >>> Baltazar b.25 Aug 1579 Padrinhos--Baltazar Rois fo Pedro Amador Rois & >>> Margarida de Sousa mulher de Fernao Pinho p. 266nto b.19 Mar 1573 p.150 >>> Maria b.26 Feb 1576 Padrinhos--Bras Martins e Isabel de Matos? p. 211 >>> Pedro b.25 Mar 1585 p.20 >>> >>> Looking for more info on Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 5:11 PM, mances wrote: >>> Sandra, Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias are my ancestors too. I descend from their son Baltazar Rebelo. Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande: . Guiomar, b. 31.10.1571 - CCA #130. Pd: Nicolau Gonçalves e Helena Manuel. . Maria, b. 28.2.1576 - CCA #211. Filha de Francisco Afonso, da Ribeirinha, e de Maria Dias. Pd: Braz Martins e Isabel de Matos. . Pedro, b. 25.3.1585 - CCA #20. Pd: Francisco Pires Paiva e a parteira Catarina Gonçalves. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 19:55:49 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: > > Is this my Pedro? It is the only one that comes close. Pedro Rabello > fo Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias married Luisa Correia fa Antonio Jorge > and Maria Mel. > > Birth 25 Mar 1585--top right. > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590_item1/P20.html > > Marriage 6 Dec 1610--3rd on left. > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625_item1/P90.html > > > > -- > Sandra Perez > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sandra Perez >>> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > Sandra Perez > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Confirm my Pedro Rabello's birth.
Manoel, was her name Maria Dias Rodrigues? On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 8:09 AM, mances wrote: > Sandra, > > According to RR the record doesn´t list the parents. > > Francisco Afonso x Maria Rodrigues (sic) - bottom, left page: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1542-1582/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1542-1582_item1/P24.html > > Manoel > > > > Em segunda-feira, 7 de março de 2016 11:52:22 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: >> >> Manoel, does it who their parents were? If they married in 1560 there >> should be other children. >> >> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 6:27 PM, mances wrote: >> >>> Sandra, >>> >>> Francisco Afonso is in RR's book: >>> >>> CAPÍTULO 225.º >>> DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE FRANCISCO AFONSO >>> § Único >>> 1 - Francisco Afonso, já falecido em 1602. Casou na Matriz da Ribeira >>> Grande em Novembro de 1560 (folhas 20 do Livro 1.º) com Maria Dias, ou >>> Rodrigues, já falecida em 1602. O termo não diz os nomes dos pais dos >>> nubentes. >>> >>> Manoel >>> >>> >>> Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 22:46:17 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: Manoel, I descend from their son Pedro Rabello--10th g-grandfather. I have: Gaspar b.Feb 1563 p.3 ?? Gaspar Rabello maried Ma Rois fa Miguel Rois (deceased) e ? Ges. 21 Oct 1592 p.28 Cna b.Dec 1565 p.28 ?? Domingos b.5 Oct 1567 p.59 Guimar b.31 Oct 1571 p.130 Baltazar b.25 Aug 1579 Padrinhos--Baltazar Rois fo Pedro Amador Rois & Margarida de Sousa mulher de Fernao Pinho p. 266nto b.19 Mar 1573 p.150 Maria b.26 Feb 1576 Padrinhos--Bras Martins e Isabel de Matos? p. 211 Pedro b.25 Mar 1585 p.20 Looking for more info on Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 5:11 PM, mances wrote: > Sandra, > > Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias are my ancestors too. I descend from > their son Baltazar Rebelo. > > Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande: > . Guiomar, b. 31.10.1571 - CCA #130. Pd: Nicolau Gonçalves e Helena > Manuel. > . Maria, b. 28.2.1576 - CCA #211. Filha de Francisco Afonso, da > Ribeirinha, e de Maria Dias. Pd: Braz Martins e Isabel de Matos. > . Pedro, b. 25.3.1585 - CCA #20. Pd: Francisco Pires Paiva e a > parteira Catarina Gonçalves. > > Manoel Cesar Furtado > > Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 19:55:49 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: >> >> Is this my Pedro? It is the only one that comes close. Pedro Rabello >> fo Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias married Luisa Correia fa Antonio Jorge >> and Maria Mel. >> >> Birth 25 Mar 1585--top right. >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590_item1/P20.html >> >> Marriage 6 Dec 1610--3rd on left. >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625_item1/P90.html >> >> >> >> -- >> Sandra Perez >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Sandra Perez >>> -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>> membership." >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sandra Perez >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Sandra Perez -- For options, such as changing to
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Confirm my Pedro Rabello's birth.
Sandra, I think that her name is Maria Dias. I believe that the Rodrigues surname is a mistake made by the person who wrote the names of the spouses above the record and was not able to read correctly the abbreviation of her surname. I have already seen this kind of mistake on the old marriage records for Ribeira Grande. The most common is the abbreviation Gls (Gonçalves) wrongly listed as Gomes. Manoel Em segunda-feira, 7 de março de 2016 15:01:01 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: > > Manoel, was her name Maria Dias Rodrigues? > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 8:09 AM, mances > > wrote: > >> Sandra, >> >> According to RR the record doesn´t list the parents. >> >> Francisco Afonso x Maria Rodrigues (sic) - bottom, left page: >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1542-1582/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1542-1582_item1/P24.html >> >> Manoel >> >> >> >> Em segunda-feira, 7 de março de 2016 11:52:22 UTC-3, Sandra Perez >> escreveu: >>> >>> Manoel, does it who their parents were? If they married in 1560 there >>> should be other children. >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 6:27 PM, mances wrote: >>> Sandra, Francisco Afonso is in RR's book: CAPÍTULO 225.º DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE FRANCISCO AFONSO § Único 1 - Francisco Afonso, já falecido em 1602. Casou na Matriz da Ribeira Grande em Novembro de 1560 (folhas 20 do Livro 1.º) com Maria Dias, ou Rodrigues, já falecida em 1602. O termo não diz os nomes dos pais dos nubentes. Manoel Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 22:46:17 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: > > Manoel, I descend from their son Pedro Rabello--10th g-grandfather. > > I have: Gaspar b.Feb 1563 p.3 ?? Gaspar Rabello maried Ma Rois fa > Miguel Rois (deceased) e ? Ges. 21 Oct 1592 p.28 > Cna b.Dec 1565 p.28 ?? > Domingos b.5 Oct 1567 p.59 > Guimar b.31 Oct 1571 p.130 > Baltazar b.25 Aug 1579 Padrinhos--Baltazar Rois fo Pedro Amador Rois & > Margarida de Sousa mulher de Fernao Pinho p. 266nto b.19 Mar 1573 p.150 > Maria b.26 Feb 1576 Padrinhos--Bras Martins e Isabel de Matos? p. 211 > Pedro b.25 Mar 1585 p.20 > > Looking for more info on Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias > > On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 5:11 PM, mances wrote: > >> Sandra, >> >> Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias are my ancestors too. I descend from >> their son Baltazar Rebelo. >> >> Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande: >> . Guiomar, b. 31.10.1571 - CCA #130. Pd: Nicolau Gonçalves e Helena >> Manuel. >> . Maria, b. 28.2.1576 - CCA #211. Filha de Francisco Afonso, da >> Ribeirinha, e de Maria Dias. Pd: Braz Martins e Isabel de Matos. >> . Pedro, b. 25.3.1585 - CCA #20. Pd: Francisco Pires Paiva e a >> parteira Catarina Gonçalves. >> >> Manoel Cesar Furtado >> >> Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 19:55:49 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: >>> >>> Is this my Pedro? It is the only one that comes close. Pedro Rabello >>> fo Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias married Luisa Correia fa Antonio >>> Jorge >>> and Maria Mel. >>> >>> Birth 25 Mar 1585--top right. >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590_item1/P20.html >>> >>> Marriage 6 Dec 1610--3rd on left. >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625_item1/P90.html >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sandra Perez >>> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > Sandra Perez > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>>
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Confirm my Pedro Rabello's birth.
Cheri, I think this is an example of what think you are talking about. I have been told that Gomes is never abbreviated. I am still having trouble with it. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625_item1/P37.html On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:38 PM, mances wrote: > Sandra, > > I think that her name is Maria Dias. I believe that the Rodrigues surname > is a mistake made by the person who wrote the names of the spouses above > the record and was not able to read correctly the abbreviation of her > surname. > I have already seen this kind of mistake on the old marriage records for > Ribeira Grande. The most common is the abbreviation Gls (Gonçalves) wrongly > listed as Gomes. > > Manoel > > Em segunda-feira, 7 de março de 2016 15:01:01 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: >> >> Manoel, was her name Maria Dias Rodrigues? >> >> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 8:09 AM, mances wrote: >> >>> Sandra, >>> >>> According to RR the record doesn´t list the parents. >>> >>> Francisco Afonso x Maria Rodrigues (sic) - bottom, left page: >>> >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1542-1582/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1542-1582_item1/P24.html >>> >>> Manoel >>> >>> >>> >>> Em segunda-feira, 7 de março de 2016 11:52:22 UTC-3, Sandra Perez >>> escreveu: Manoel, does it who their parents were? If they married in 1560 there should be other children. On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 6:27 PM, mances wrote: > Sandra, > > Francisco Afonso is in RR's book: > > CAPÍTULO 225.º > DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE FRANCISCO AFONSO > § Único > 1 - Francisco Afonso, já falecido em 1602. Casou na Matriz da Ribeira > Grande em Novembro de 1560 (folhas 20 do Livro 1.º) com Maria Dias, ou > Rodrigues, já falecida em 1602. O termo não diz os nomes dos pais dos > nubentes. > > Manoel > > > Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 22:46:17 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: >> >> Manoel, I descend from their son Pedro Rabello--10th g-grandfather. >> >> I have: Gaspar b.Feb 1563 p.3 ?? Gaspar Rabello maried Ma Rois fa >> Miguel Rois (deceased) e ? Ges. 21 Oct 1592 p.28 >> Cna b.Dec 1565 p.28 ?? >> Domingos b.5 Oct 1567 p.59 >> Guimar b.31 Oct 1571 p.130 >> Baltazar b.25 Aug 1579 Padrinhos--Baltazar Rois fo Pedro Amador Rois >> & Margarida de Sousa mulher de Fernao Pinho p. 266nto b.19 Mar 1573 p.150 >> Maria b.26 Feb 1576 Padrinhos--Bras Martins e Isabel de Matos? p. 211 >> Pedro b.25 Mar 1585 p.20 >> >> Looking for more info on Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias >> >> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 5:11 PM, mances wrote: >> >>> Sandra, >>> >>> Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias are my ancestors too. I descend from >>> their son Baltazar Rebelo. >>> >>> Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande: >>> . Guiomar, b. 31.10.1571 - CCA #130. Pd: Nicolau Gonçalves e Helena >>> Manuel. >>> . Maria, b. 28.2.1576 - CCA #211. Filha de Francisco Afonso, da >>> Ribeirinha, e de Maria Dias. Pd: Braz Martins e Isabel de Matos. >>> . Pedro, b. 25.3.1585 - CCA #20. Pd: Francisco Pires Paiva e a >>> parteira Catarina Gonçalves. >>> >>> Manoel Cesar Furtado >>> >>> Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 19:55:49 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: Is this my Pedro? It is the only one that comes close. Pedro Rabello fo Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias married Luisa Correia fa Antonio Jorge and Maria Mel. Birth 25 Mar 1585--top right. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590_item1/P20.html Marriage 6 Dec 1610--3rd on left. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625_item1/P90.html -- Sandra Perez >>> -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on >>> the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>> membership." >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>> send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sandra Perez >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Confirm my Pedro Rabello's birth.
Cheri, forgot birth record. Marriage Baltazar Gomes Gtz--top left. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625_item1/P37.html Birth Margarida fa Baltazar Gtz and Cna Lopes--3rd from top on left. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1590-1603/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1590-1603_item1/P103.html On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Sandra Perez wrote: > Cheri, I think this is an example of what think you are talking about. I > have been told that Gomes is never abbreviated. I am still having trouble > with it. > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625_item1/P37.html > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:38 PM, mances wrote: > >> Sandra, >> >> I think that her name is Maria Dias. I believe that the Rodrigues surname >> is a mistake made by the person who wrote the names of the spouses above >> the record and was not able to read correctly the abbreviation of her >> surname. >> I have already seen this kind of mistake on the old marriage records for >> Ribeira Grande. The most common is the abbreviation Gls (Gonçalves) wrongly >> listed as Gomes. >> >> Manoel >> >> Em segunda-feira, 7 de março de 2016 15:01:01 UTC-3, Sandra Perez >> escreveu: >>> >>> Manoel, was her name Maria Dias Rodrigues? >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 8:09 AM, mances wrote: >>> Sandra, According to RR the record doesn´t list the parents. Francisco Afonso x Maria Rodrigues (sic) - bottom, left page: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1542-1582/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1542-1582_item1/P24.html Manoel Em segunda-feira, 7 de março de 2016 11:52:22 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: > > Manoel, does it who their parents were? If they married in 1560 there > should be other children. > > On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 6:27 PM, mances wrote: > >> Sandra, >> >> Francisco Afonso is in RR's book: >> >> CAPÍTULO 225.º >> DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE FRANCISCO AFONSO >> § Único >> 1 - Francisco Afonso, já falecido em 1602. Casou na Matriz da Ribeira >> Grande em Novembro de 1560 (folhas 20 do Livro 1.º) com Maria Dias, ou >> Rodrigues, já falecida em 1602. O termo não diz os nomes dos pais dos >> nubentes. >> >> Manoel >> >> >> Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 22:46:17 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: >>> >>> Manoel, I descend from their son Pedro Rabello--10th g-grandfather. >>> >>> I have: Gaspar b.Feb 1563 p.3 ?? Gaspar Rabello maried Ma Rois fa >>> Miguel Rois (deceased) e ? Ges. 21 Oct 1592 p.28 >>> Cna b.Dec 1565 p.28 ?? >>> Domingos b.5 Oct 1567 p.59 >>> Guimar b.31 Oct 1571 p.130 >>> Baltazar b.25 Aug 1579 Padrinhos--Baltazar Rois fo Pedro Amador Rois >>> & Margarida de Sousa mulher de Fernao Pinho p. 266nto b.19 Mar 1573 >>> p.150 >>> Maria b.26 Feb 1576 Padrinhos--Bras Martins e Isabel de Matos? p. 211 >>> Pedro b.25 Mar 1585 p.20 >>> >>> Looking for more info on Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 5:11 PM, mances wrote: >>> Sandra, Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias are my ancestors too. I descend from their son Baltazar Rebelo. Filhos batizados na Matriz da Ribeira Grande: . Guiomar, b. 31.10.1571 - CCA #130. Pd: Nicolau Gonçalves e Helena Manuel. . Maria, b. 28.2.1576 - CCA #211. Filha de Francisco Afonso, da Ribeirinha, e de Maria Dias. Pd: Braz Martins e Isabel de Matos. . Pedro, b. 25.3.1585 - CCA #20. Pd: Francisco Pires Paiva e a parteira Catarina Gonçalves. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em domingo, 6 de março de 2016 19:55:49 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu: > > Is this my Pedro? It is the only one that comes close. Pedro > Rabello fo Francisco Afonso and Maria Dias married Luisa Correia fa > Antonio > Jorge and Maria Mel. > > Birth 25 Mar 1585--top right. > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-B-1584-1590_item1/P20.html > > Marriage 6 Dec 1610--3rd on left. > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625/SMG-RG-ESTRELA-C-1585-1625_item1/P90.html > > > > -- > Sandra Perez > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received thi
