Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record for Barbara (top left)
How do you do that Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Eric Souzawrote: > > Darkened in Photoshop ... hope this helps ... > >> On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 12:34:45 PM UTC-7, cathybourgeois1218 >> wrote: >> I’m looking for Barbara who has parents Joao Rodrigues (Rois) and Maria >> Gouvea. I can see the father but is the mother Maria Gouvea, please? Can’t >> make out the words. >> >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1664-1705/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1664-1705_item1/P280.html >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Cathy Bourgeois >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record for Barbara (top left)
Thank you, Eric. It does show that it’s Azevedo not Gouvea. Back to the drawing board. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Eric Souza Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2017 6:54 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record for Barbara (top left) Darkened in Photoshop ... hope this helps ... On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 12:34:45 PM UTC-7, cathybourgeois1218 wrote: I’m looking for Barbara who has parents Joao Rodrigues (Rois) and Maria Gouvea. I can see the father but is the mother Maria Gouvea, please? Can’t make out the words. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1664-1705/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1664-1705_item1/P280.html Thanks in advance, Cathy Bourgeois Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Need help reading record.
Edna, It's caught in the binding of the book, so I can't be sure. Casou com Angelica Francisca da Silveira, em 4? May 1914. Could be 14 or 24, so go with your records. I think the rest says to find the marriage, go to marriage record 41 of 1914. The blue note (2) says the marriage was dissolved by the death of his wife, Angelica Francisca da Silveira on desaseis (16) January 1963. So Angelica died 16 Jan 1963. Death book of 1963, record 14. Then it says 24 Sept 1971. Maybe that's when they wrote the blue note? 3) Died in this freguesia, of Praia do Norte on the 12. Record 109 of today. 20 April 1976 So I'd guess he died 12 April 1976. You're doing great with these records! Cheri On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Edna Epps dave-e...@comcast.net wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1871-1892/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1871-1892_item1/P151.html* Record is for Sergio on bottom right of this page and continues on top left of next page. I need help reading the 3 notes in the left margin. The one in red on first page I can’t read much of at all. Sergio married Angelica Filomena Francisca de Silveira on 5-14-1914 per my records. This note looks like it says something about May 1940? So “maybe” I have year wrong for his marriage..he would have been young in 1914. I will check that. Note #2 I think is obit information on his wife maybe buried 1-16-1963 and died 1-14-1963..but what is the 24th of September 1971? * *Note #3 I think is Sergio’s date of death. Does it say he died at Praia do Norte on the 12th and it was record No 109 today on 2oth April 1976? Thanks in advance for any help* *Edna Lemos Epps* *ednadave-e...@comcast.net dave-e...@comcast.netIsaiah 30:18 Yet the Lord longs to be gracious to you; He rises to show you compassion. For the Lord is a Godof justice, Blessed are all who wait for Him* -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record
Yhis is what I can make of it On the 30th day of the month of January, of 1690 Pedro Ferreira son of Antonio Ferreira and of Margarida Rodrigues deceased with Apolonia de Medeiros Pimentel daughter of Gaspar Fernandes or Frias) and of Isabel de Medeiros, On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone and yes its on CCA site but I don't have the link. On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.comwrote: Oops, I was looking at the wrong line (since you didn't specify which line you were looking at, and that Margarida's name was abbreviated). You're referring to the 3rd line, right? Her surname is either, as others have posited, Rois' or possibly Reis (although the latter theory doesn't explain the apostrophe). Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- www.georgepacheco.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Thanks On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 6:24 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.comwrote: Yhis is what I can make of it On the 30th day of the month of January, of 1690 Pedro Ferreira son of Antonio Ferreira and of Margarida Rodrigues deceased with Apolonia de Medeiros Pimentel daughter of Gaspar Fernandes or Frias) and of Isabel de Medeiros, On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone and yes its on CCA site but I don't have the link. On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.comwrote: Oops, I was looking at the wrong line (since you didn't specify which line you were looking at, and that Margarida's name was abbreviated). You're referring to the 3rd line, right? Her surname is either, as others have posited, Rois' or possibly Reis (although the latter theory doesn't explain the apostrophe). Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- www.georgepacheco.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record
Thanks everyone and yes its on CCA site but I don't have the link. On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.comwrote: Oops, I was looking at the wrong line (since you didn't specify which line you were looking at, and that Margarida's name was abbreviated). You're referring to the 3rd line, right? Her surname is either, as others have posited, Rois' or possibly Reis (although the latter theory doesn't explain the apostrophe). Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record
Hello Pam.I agrre with JR that the name is most likely Rodrigues (Rois'). It also says that his father is a stone mason (pedreiro) and that the his parents had passed away at that date (at lesta his mother was).Hope that helps.Hermanol Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 12:57:58 -0700 From: jro...@rogers.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record I think it is Margda Roiz'. When that mark, which look like a large apostrophe, appears after Roiz, it usually means that the name is abbreviated from Rodrigues. On Saturday, June 9, 2012 4:39:39 AM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote: I just need help with Pedro Ferreira's mother's last name I know her first name is Margarida but can't make out her last name. Thanks -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Thanks!! On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:38 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote: It says: On May 22, 1675, married Manuel Brandao in text with (Vieyra in margin), son of Francisco Vieira and his spouse Monica Brandao, deceased, to Ana da Costa Pimentel, daughter of Pedro da Salgueiro and his spouse Briolanja Manuel deceased. JR May 9, 10:52 pm, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Need help with brides parents names. I see Pedro but thats all I can read Manuel Brandoa Vieira and Ana Da costa Pimentel marriage.JPG 129KViewDownload -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: need help with record
These people that you mention are in my database. I am related to them. Please contact me privately atshir...@digitalpath.net Thanks Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: JR jro...@rogers.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 6:38 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: need help with record It says: On May 22, 1675, married Manuel Brandao in text with (Vieyra in margin), son of Francisco Vieira and his spouse Monica Brandao, deceased, to Ana da Costa Pimentel, daughter of Pedro da Salgueiro and his spouse Briolanja Manuel deceased. JR May 9, 10:52 pm, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Need help with brides parents names. I see Pedro but thats all I can read Manuel Brandoa Vieira and Ana Da costa Pimentel marriage.JPG 129KViewDownload -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record (hard to read)
Hello E.C. Resendes Here you will find the full translaton of your Francisco Resendes and Rosa de Medeiros marriage On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:43 AM, EResendes eman...@resendes.ws wrote: Thanks for your help. On Mar 28, 1:23 am, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote: This is a standard narrative for a marriage - the postscript at the bottom merely certifies that the grooms name is in fact Francisco Fernandes (w/o Eutoria) [Transcription] Emos vinte seis dias do mez de Abril de mil outo sentos e quarenta depois de feitas as tres canonicas denunciacaos tanto nesta Igreja Parochial de Nossa Senhora da Graca lugar de Faial postemente ao Priorado de Arcanjo Sam Miguel de Vila Franca do Campo como na Ermida de Nossa Senhora da Penha da Franca lugar de Agua Retorta pertinente a mesma Priorado no presenca de mim Jose Duarte de Torres Cura nesta mesma Igreja e dos testemunhas Manoel Francisco Resende e Francisco Jose de Resende e Paiva ambos casados, naturais, e moredores neste mesmo lugar; e de outros pessoas de mim bem conhecidos de que dou fe sem se descobrir impedimente algum de que me constar d' hum Mandado do M*to* Reverendo Sr. Ouvidor do Distrito Jose Tavares de Med*eiros* se cazaram solemnemente et in facia *[Eutoria]* Francisco Fernandes filho legitimo de Joam Fernandes e sua mulher Anna Pereira e Roza De Medeiros filha legitima de Jose de Medeiros e sua mulher Angelica de Medeiros naturais e moradores todos neste lugar; receberao os bencoes. Para constar fiz este termo dia mez e era ut supra. [o Cura Jose Duarte de Torres; Manoel Francisco de Resende; Francisco Jose Resende e Paiva]. *Declaro que o nubento se chama Francisco Fernandes por engano que houve nottam dado do Muito Reverendo Sr. Ouvidor do Distrito. [Torres] ~~~ ~ On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:37:59 PM UTC-4, EResendes wrote: I found a record with my ggf(5th gen) marriage record. I can't make out all the detail can anyone help transcribe it? It is the marriage record for Francisco Feranndes and Rosa de Medeiros. Thanks, E. C. Resendes -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. fernandes and Medeiros.docx Description: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record
oops I mean it is a different Fragoso line. not the same one. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: No that was Tavares line. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:40 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote: Can I assume this Fragosa line is the same one that earlier was supposed to be from Terceira or another island? On Mar 26, 8:58 pm, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: That is so cool Thanks and thanks for letting me know you don't see if it stated where they were from. Manuel I will email you what I have if that is ok. On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't see anything to indicate where the parents were from, but, early records left out a lot of things we take for granted. What would be the main concern for the church would be whether the parties to the event were Catholic, had received the sacraments, and, in the case of marriages, that they were not currently married to another person. If birthplaces aren't mentioned it is because, in all probability, all participants were known to be members of the parish where the event was being celebrated. ~~~~~~ On Monday, March 26, 2012 4:36:51 AM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote: I need help with deciphering this record, I am wondering if it states where their parents are from? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record
That is so cool Thanks and thanks for letting me know you don't see if it stated where they were from. Manuel I will email you what I have if that is ok. On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't see anything to indicate where the parents were from, but, early records left out a lot of things we take for granted. What would be the main concern for the church would be whether the parties to the event were Catholic, had received the sacraments, and, in the case of marriages, that they were not currently married to another person. If birthplaces aren't mentioned it is because, in all probability, all participants were known to be members of the parish where the event was being celebrated. ~~ On Monday, March 26, 2012 4:36:51 AM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote: I need help with deciphering this record, I am wondering if it states where their parents are from? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record
Thanks Jr, will check the area and surrounding churches before Teceira On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Well just what I have posted Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. Baptism for three of his children says he is from Matriz, Villa C. I am looking for the marriage now, I found three children Joseph born 03 May 1713, Antonia born 13 Jun 1716, and Manuel 10 Apr 1719. I am in the year 1709 and nothing so far, so they may not have married in Rosario, Lagoa On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:48 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote: The record No- 0214 reads as follows: Francisco Tavares son of Manuel Fragoso and Barbara de Sam (Sao) Andre. He was baptised in (N. he left out the N) Senhora da Conceycao (Conceicao) cidade de Angra, Ilha de Terceira married on Oct 3, 1733, to Maria de Pimentel filha de Joseph Correa, defunto, (deceased) and Theresa de Frias baptised in NS do Rosario. Fragoso is a common name in Sao Miguel, in Lagoa and other places, so look there before you look in Angra, Terceira, for Francisco's parents. It could simply be that he was only baptised in Terceira and not necessarily from that island. JR On Mar 5, 10:51 am, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pam, I sent you an email regarding a da Ponte I just discovered in Velas, he was from Agua de Pau and married my gr grandfather's niece. here is the info. I thought I should post directly to the list as well in case anyone else is searching this thread. here is the basic translation I can send the record. 1880 marriage: Joze da Ponte Guedella 29 years and Jannaria Emila de Ponte. son of Francisco da Ponte Guedella and Maria ?coraceau de Jesus, freguesia angra de pau and she 19 years, single of Velas daughter of Joze Pedro da Silveira and Anna Emilia Furtado of Velas. I wanted to attach the record but other than emailing it to the list I don't know if there is a way to attach it to a reply like this. Anyone know if that can be done? Suzanne da Rosa On Mar 5, 8:20 am, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Pam, I have a few in my line from Agua de Pau; do you have the particulars on your da Ponte? Margaret Vicente On 3/4/12, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: No I do not have any Ponte's Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sdarosa Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:52 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line? I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is from Velas, married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao Miguel. They were both living in Velas. This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the Island of Velas. On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Pam, This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria de Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir. I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before. Francisco parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the baptisms of his children. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam Santos Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia Gouveia, the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De Ponte. Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and Maria De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia De Pimentel parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of their children's marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the same three children with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How do you know for sure its them? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation Azores+directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode
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Thanks so much!!! Really appreciate it On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:23 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote: A few corrections, Pedro da Ponte marriage, all were residents of Rosario Lagoa In Jose Correa Marriage (0065), All are natives and residents of Rosario and Mathias de Oliveira was deceased. On Mar 6, 5:58 pm, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote: The record- 0092- I found says: NS do Rosario- June 8- 1701 Pedro da Ponte, filho de Goncalo Travassos e Clara da Ponte residents of Santa Cruz Lagoa and where he was baptised. married to Thereza Govea de Azevedo, filha de Manuel Govea e Maria Rebella residenta of Santa Cruz, Lagoa where she was baptised. all nats of Rosario, Lagoa. Feb 4- 1699 Rosario Jose Correa, filho de Antonio Correa and Maria de Pimentel married to Theresa de Frias, filha de Mathias de Oliveira and Barbara Teixeira JR On Mar 6, 1:34 am, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Well just what I have posted Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. Baptism for three of his children says he is from Matriz, Villa C. I am looking for the marriage now, I found three children Joseph born 03 May 1713, Antonia born 13 Jun 1716, and Manuel 10 Apr 1719. I am in the year 1709 and nothing so far, so they may not have married in Rosario, Lagoa On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:48 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote: The record No- 0214 reads as follows: Francisco Tavares son of Manuel Fragoso and Barbara de Sam (Sao) Andre. He was baptised in (N. he left out the N) Senhora da Conceycao (Conceicao) cidade de Angra, Ilha de Terceira married on Oct 3, 1733, to Maria de Pimentel filha de Joseph Correa, defunto, (deceased) and Theresa de Frias baptised in NS do Rosario. Fragoso is a common name in Sao Miguel, in Lagoa and other places, so look there before you look in Angra, Terceira, for Francisco's parents. It could simply be that he was only baptised in Terceira and not necessarily from that island. JR On Mar 5, 10:51 am, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pam, I sent you an email regarding a da Ponte I just discovered in Velas, he was from Agua de Pau and married my gr grandfather's niece. here is the info. I thought I should post directly to the list as well in case anyone else is searching this thread. here is the basic translation I can send the record. 1880 marriage: Joze da Ponte Guedella 29 years and Jannaria Emila de Ponte. son of Francisco da Ponte Guedella and Maria ?coraceau de Jesus, freguesia angra de pau and she 19 years, single of Velas daughter of Joze Pedro da Silveira and Anna Emilia Furtado of Velas. I wanted to attach the record but other than emailing it to the list I don't know if there is a way to attach it to a reply like this. Anyone know if that can be done? Suzanne da Rosa On Mar 5, 8:20 am, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Pam, I have a few in my line from Agua de Pau; do you have the particulars on your da Ponte? Margaret Vicente On 3/4/12, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: No I do not have any Ponte's Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sdarosa Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:52 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line? I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is from Velas, married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao Miguel. They were both living in Velas. This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the Island of Velas. On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Pam, This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria de Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir. I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before. Francisco parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the baptisms of his children. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores
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Pam, I have a few in my line from Agua de Pau; do you have the particulars on your da Ponte? Margaret Vicente On 3/4/12, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: No I do not have any Ponte's Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sdarosa Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:52 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line? I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is from Velas, married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao Miguel. They were both living in Velas. This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the Island of Velas. On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Pam, This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria de Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir. I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before. Francisco parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the baptisms of his children. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam Santos Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia Gouveia, the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De Ponte. Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and Maria De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia De Pimentel parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of their children's marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the same three children with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How do you know for sure its them? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation Azores+directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- Margaret M Vicente -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Well just what I have posted Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. Baptism for three of his children says he is from Matriz, Villa C. I am looking for the marriage now, I found three children Joseph born 03 May 1713, Antonia born 13 Jun 1716, and Manuel 10 Apr 1719. I am in the year 1709 and nothing so far, so they may not have married in Rosario, Lagoa On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:48 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote: The record No- 0214 reads as follows: Francisco Tavares son of Manuel Fragoso and Barbara de Sam (Sao) Andre. He was baptised in (N. he left out the N) Senhora da Conceycao (Conceicao) cidade de Angra, Ilha de Terceira married on Oct 3, 1733, to Maria de Pimentel filha de Joseph Correa, defunto, (deceased) and Theresa de Frias baptised in NS do Rosario. Fragoso is a common name in Sao Miguel, in Lagoa and other places, so look there before you look in Angra, Terceira, for Francisco's parents. It could simply be that he was only baptised in Terceira and not necessarily from that island. JR On Mar 5, 10:51 am, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pam, I sent you an email regarding a da Ponte I just discovered in Velas, he was from Agua de Pau and married my gr grandfather's niece. here is the info. I thought I should post directly to the list as well in case anyone else is searching this thread. here is the basic translation I can send the record. 1880 marriage: Joze da Ponte Guedella 29 years and Jannaria Emila de Ponte. son of Francisco da Ponte Guedella and Maria ?coraceau de Jesus, freguesia angra de pau and she 19 years, single of Velas daughter of Joze Pedro da Silveira and Anna Emilia Furtado of Velas. I wanted to attach the record but other than emailing it to the list I don't know if there is a way to attach it to a reply like this. Anyone know if that can be done? Suzanne da Rosa On Mar 5, 8:20 am, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Pam, I have a few in my line from Agua de Pau; do you have the particulars on your da Ponte? Margaret Vicente On 3/4/12, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: No I do not have any Ponte's Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sdarosa Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:52 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line? I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is from Velas, married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao Miguel. They were both living in Velas. This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the Island of Velas. On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Pam, This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria de Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir. I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before. Francisco parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the baptisms of his children. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam Santos Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia Gouveia, the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De Ponte. Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and Maria De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia De Pimentel parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of their children's marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the same three children with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How do you know for sure its them? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation Azores+directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join
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thanks I really missed that one On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:51 AM, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.com wrote: Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line? I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is from Velas, married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao Miguel. They were both living in Velas. This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the Island of Velas. On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Pam, This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria de Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir. I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before. Francisco parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the baptisms of his children. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam Santos Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia Gouveia, the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De Ponte. Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and Maria De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia De Pimentel parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of their children's marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the same three children with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How do you know for sure its them? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Does it say they are both from Rosario, Lagoa? On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: thanks I really missed that one On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:51 AM, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.com wrote: Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line? I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is from Velas, married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao Miguel. They were both living in Velas. This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the Island of Velas. On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Pam, This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria de Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir. I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before. Francisco parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the baptisms of his children. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam Santos Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia Gouveia, the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De Ponte. Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and Maria De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia De Pimentel parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of their children's marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the same three children with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How do you know for sure its them? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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Actually October? On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Ok found his first but I can decipher the date I know its Dec maybe the 6th not sure year. and his father mansel (Manuel) Fragoso and barbara something. Hers Joseph ? and ? Perreira. On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Does it say they are both from Rosario, Lagoa? On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: thanks I really missed that one On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:51 AM, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.comwrote: Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line? I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is from Velas, married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao Miguel. They were both living in Velas. This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the Island of Velas. On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Pam, This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria de Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir. I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before. Francisco parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the baptisms of his children. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam Santos Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia Gouveia, the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De Ponte. Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and Maria De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia De Pimentel parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of their children's marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the same three children with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How do you know for sure its them? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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thanks neither can I, I can't read this priest handwriting, most others I can but his drives me crazy lol On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *This is what I have so far.* * * *The date is 6 Dec 1736 (hint: look at the preceding page and the following page)* * * *Francisco Tavares son of Manuel Fragoso and Barbara (?) he was baptized in (it looks like) Santa Lucia Angra do Heroismo, Terceira* *Maria de Pimentel daughter of Jose Gouvier (deceased) Teresa de (?) she was baptized in NS Rosario, Lagoa* * * * I cannot make out the second names on the two mothers.* * * *Rick* * * *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire * * * *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores* * * *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pam Santos *Sent:* Sunday, March 04, 2012 11:26 AM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record ** ** Actually October? On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:* *** Ok found his first but I can decipher the date I know its Dec maybe the 6th not sure year. and his father mansel (Manuel) Fragoso and barbara something. Hers Joseph ? and ? Perreira. ** ** On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:* *** Does it say they are both from Rosario, Lagoa? ** ** On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:* *** thanks I really missed that one On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Pam, This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria de Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir. I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before. Francisco parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the baptisms of his children. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam Santos Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia Gouveia, the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De Ponte. Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and Maria De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia De Pimentel parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of their children's marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the same three children with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How do you know for sure its them? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership
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Something else I thought of is that his first and second wives were related possibly half-sisters and Teresa Gouveir (married to Pedro de Ponte) and this Teresa (?) married to Jose Gouveir are the same person. Just speculation on my part. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam Santos Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:41 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record thanks neither can I, I can't read this priest handwriting, most others I can but his drives me crazy lol On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: This is what I have so far. The date is 6 Dec 1736 (hint: look at the preceding page and the following page) Francisco Tavares son of Manuel Fragoso and Barbara (?) he was baptized in (it looks like) Santa Lucia Angra do Heroismo, Terceira Maria de Pimentel daughter of Jose Gouvier (deceased) Teresa de (?) she was baptized in NS Rosario, Lagoa I cannot make out the second names on the two mothers. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam Santos Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 11:26 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record Actually October? On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Ok found his first but I can decipher the date I know its Dec maybe the 6th not sure year. and his father mansel (Manuel) Fragoso and barbara something. Hers Joseph ? and ? Perreira. On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Does it say they are both from Rosario, Lagoa? On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: thanks I really missed that one On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Pam, This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria de Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir. I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before. Francisco parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the baptisms of his children. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam Santos Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia Gouveia, the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De Ponte. Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and Maria De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia De Pimentel parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of their children's marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the same three children with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How do you know for sure its them? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group
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It only says she is from Lagoa. Because he is named a widower it does not say on him. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam Santos Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 10:56 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record Does it say they are both from Rosario, Lagoa? On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: thanks I really missed that one On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:51 AM, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.com wrote: Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line? I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is from Velas, married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao Miguel. They were both living in Velas. This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the Island of Velas. On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Pam, This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria de Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir. I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before. Francisco parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the baptisms of his children. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam Santos Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia Gouveia, the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De Ponte. Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and Maria De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia De Pimentel parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of their children's marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the same three children with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How do you know for sure its them? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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thanks again for your help, really appreciate it. On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *It only says she is from Lagoa. Because he is named a widower it does not say on him.* * * *Rick* * * *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire * * * *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores* * * *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pam Santos *Sent:* Sunday, March 04, 2012 10:56 AM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record ** ** Does it say they are both from Rosario, Lagoa? On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:* *** thanks I really missed that one ** ** On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:51 AM, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.com wrote:* *** Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line? I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is from Velas, married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao Miguel. They were both living in Velas. This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the Island of Velas. On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Pam, This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria de Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir. I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before. Francisco parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the baptisms of his children. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pam Santos Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia Gouveia, the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De Ponte. Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and Maria De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia De Pimentel parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of their children's marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the same three children with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How do you know for sure its them? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. ** ** ** ** -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take