Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record for Barbara (top left)

2017-09-02 Thread Liz Migliori
How do you do that

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> On Sep 2, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Eric Souza  wrote:
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> Darkened in Photoshop ... hope this helps ...
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>> On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 12:34:45 PM UTC-7, cathybourgeois1218 
>> wrote:
>> I’m looking for Barbara who has parents Joao Rodrigues (Rois) and Maria 
>> Gouvea.  I can see the father but is the mother Maria Gouvea, please?  Can’t 
>> make out the words.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1664-1705/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1664-1705_item1/P280.html
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Cathy Bourgeois
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record for Barbara (top left)

2017-09-02 Thread Cathy Bourgeois
Thank you, Eric.  It does show that it’s Azevedo not Gouvea.  Back to the 
drawing board.

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record for Barbara (top left)

Darkened in Photoshop ... hope this helps ...

On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 12:34:45 PM UTC-7, cathybourgeois1218 wrote:
I’m looking for Barbara who has parents Joao Rodrigues (Rois) and Maria Gouvea. 
 I can see the father but is the mother Maria Gouvea, please?  Can’t make out 
the words.
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1664-1705/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1664-1705_item1/P280.html
Thanks in advance,
Cathy Bourgeois
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Need help reading record.

2014-06-03 Thread Cheri Mello
Edna,

It's caught in the binding of the book, so I can't be sure.

Casou com Angelica Francisca da Silveira, em 4? May 1914.  Could be 14 or
24, so go with your records.  I think the rest says to find the marriage,
go to marriage record 41 of 1914.

The blue note (2) says the marriage was dissolved by the death of his wife,
Angelica Francisca da Silveira on desaseis (16) January 1963.  So Angelica
died 16 Jan 1963.  Death book of 1963, record 14.  Then it says 24 Sept
1971.  Maybe that's when they wrote the blue note?

3) Died in this freguesia, of Praia do Norte on the 12.  Record 109 of
today.  20 April 1976  So I'd guess he died 12 April 1976.

You're doing great with these records!
Cheri


On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Edna Epps dave-e...@comcast.net wrote:


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1871-1892/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1871-1892_item1/P151.html*
 Record is for Sergio on bottom right of this page and continues on top left
 of next page.  I need help reading the 3 notes in the left margin.  The one
 in red on first page I can’t read much of at all.  Sergio married Angelica
 Filomena Francisca de Silveira on 5-14-1914 per my records.  This note
 looks like it says something about May 1940? So “maybe” I have year wrong
 for his marriage..he would have been young in 1914. I will check that.
 Note #2 I think is obit information on his wife maybe buried 1-16-1963 and
 died 1-14-1963..but what is the 24th of September 1971? *
 *Note #3 I think is Sergio’s date of death. Does it say he died at Praia
 do Norte on the 12th and it was record No 109 today on 2oth April 1976?
 Thanks in advance for any help*

 *Edna Lemos Epps*






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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

2012-06-17 Thread George Pacheco
Yhis is what I can make of it

On the 30th day of the month of January, of 1690
Pedro Ferreira son of Antonio Ferreira and of Margarida Rodrigues deceased
with Apolonia de Medeiros Pimentel daughter of Gaspar Fernandes or Frias)
and of Isabel de Medeiros,

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks everyone and yes its on CCA site but I don't have the link.


 On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oops, I was looking at the wrong line (since you didn't specify which
 line you were looking at, and that Margarida's name was abbreviated).
 You're referring to the 3rd line, right?  Her surname is either, as
 others have posited, Rois' or possibly Reis (although the latter
 theory doesn't explain the apostrophe).  Katharine.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

2012-06-17 Thread Pam Santos
Thanks

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 6:24 PM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yhis is what I can make of it

 On the 30th day of the month of January, of 1690
 Pedro Ferreira son of Antonio Ferreira and of Margarida Rodrigues deceased
 with Apolonia de Medeiros Pimentel daughter of Gaspar Fernandes or Frias)
 and of Isabel de Medeiros,

 On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 2:02 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks everyone and yes its on CCA site but I don't have the link.


 On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oops, I was looking at the wrong line (since you didn't specify which
 line you were looking at, and that Margarida's name was abbreviated).
 You're referring to the 3rd line, right?  Her surname is either, as
 others have posited, Rois' or possibly Reis (although the latter
 theory doesn't explain the apostrophe).  Katharine.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

2012-06-10 Thread Pam Santos
Thanks everyone and yes its on CCA site but I don't have the link.

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oops, I was looking at the wrong line (since you didn't specify which
 line you were looking at, and that Margarida's name was abbreviated).
 You're referring to the 3rd line, right?  Her surname is either, as
 others have posited, Rois' or possibly Reis (although the latter
 theory doesn't explain the apostrophe).  Katharine.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

2012-06-09 Thread Hermano C. Pires

Hello Pam.I agrre with JR that the name is most likely Rodrigues (Rois'). It 
also says that his father is a stone mason (pedreiro) and that the his parents 
had passed away at that date (at lesta his mother was).Hope that helps.Hermanol
 Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 12:57:58 -0700
From: jro...@rogers.com
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

I think it is Margda Roiz'. When that mark, which look like a large apostrophe, 
appears after Roiz, it usually means that the name is abbreviated from 
Rodrigues.
 

On Saturday, June 9, 2012 4:39:39 AM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:
I just need help with Pedro Ferreira's mother's last name I know her first name 
is Margarida but can't make out her last name. 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: need help with record

2012-05-11 Thread Pam Santos
Thanks!!

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:38 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote:

 It says:

 On May 22, 1675, married Manuel Brandao in text with (Vieyra in
 margin), son of Francisco Vieira and his spouse Monica Brandao,
 deceased, to Ana da Costa Pimentel, daughter of Pedro da Salgueiro and
 his spouse Briolanja Manuel deceased.

 JR

  May 9, 10:52 pm, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:
  Need help with brides parents names. I see Pedro but thats all I can read
 
   Manuel Brandoa Vieira and Ana Da costa Pimentel marriage.JPG
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: need help with record

2012-05-11 Thread Shirley Allegre

These people that you mention are in my database.  I am related to them.
Please contact me privately atshir...@digitalpath.net
Thanks   Shirley in CA
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It says:

On May 22, 1675, married Manuel Brandao in text with (Vieyra in
margin), son of Francisco Vieira and his spouse Monica Brandao,
deceased, to Ana da Costa Pimentel, daughter of Pedro da Salgueiro and
his spouse Briolanja Manuel deceased.

JR

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Need help with brides parents names. I see Pedro but thats all I can read

Manuel Brandoa Vieira and Ana Da costa Pimentel marriage.JPG
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record (hard to read)

2012-03-31 Thread George Pacheco
Hello E.C. Resendes

Here you will find the full translaton of your Francisco Resendes and
Rosa de Medeiros marriage

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:43 AM, EResendes eman...@resendes.ws wrote:
 Thanks for your help.

 On Mar 28, 1:23 am, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is a standard narrative for a marriage - the postscript at the bottom
 merely certifies that the grooms name is in fact Francisco Fernandes (w/o
 Eutoria)
 [Transcription] Emos vinte seis dias do mez de Abril de mil outo sentos e
 quarenta depois de feitas as tres canonicas denunciacaos tanto nesta Igreja
 Parochial de Nossa Senhora da Graca lugar de Faial postemente ao Priorado
 de Arcanjo Sam Miguel de Vila Franca do Campo como na Ermida de Nossa
 Senhora da Penha da Franca lugar de Agua Retorta pertinente a mesma
 Priorado no presenca de mim Jose Duarte de Torres Cura nesta mesma Igreja e
 dos testemunhas Manoel Francisco Resende e Francisco Jose de Resende e
 Paiva ambos casados, naturais, e moredores neste mesmo lugar; e de outros
 pessoas de mim bem conhecidos de que dou fe sem se descobrir impedimente
 algum de que me constar d' hum Mandado do M*to* Reverendo Sr. Ouvidor do
 Distrito Jose Tavares de Med*eiros*  se cazaram solemnemente et in facia
 *[Eutoria]* Francisco Fernandes filho legitimo de Joam Fernandes e sua
 mulher Anna Pereira e Roza De Medeiros filha legitima de Jose de Medeiros
 e sua mulher Angelica de Medeiros naturais e moradores todos neste lugar;
 receberao os bencoes. Para constar fiz este termo dia mez e era ut supra.
 [o Cura Jose Duarte de Torres; Manoel Francisco de Resende; Francisco Jose
 Resende e Paiva].

 *Declaro que o nubento se chama Francisco Fernandes por engano que houve
 nottam dado do Muito Reverendo Sr. Ouvidor do Distrito.
 [Torres]
 ~~~ 
 ~







 On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:37:59 PM UTC-4, EResendes wrote:
  I found a record with my ggf(5th gen) marriage record.  I can't make out
  all the detail can anyone help transcribe it?  It is the marriage record
  for Francisco Feranndes and Rosa de Medeiros.

  Thanks,

  E. C. Resendes

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

2012-03-28 Thread Pam Santos
oops I mean it is a different Fragoso line. not the same one.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

 No that was Tavares line.


 On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:40 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote:

 Can I assume this Fragosa line is the same one that earlier was
 supposed to be from Terceira or another island?

 On Mar 26, 8:58 pm, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:
  That is so cool Thanks and thanks for letting me know you don't see if
 it
  stated where they were from. Manuel I will email you what I have if
 that is
  ok.
 
 
 
  On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote:
   I didn't see anything to indicate where the parents were from, but,
 early
   records left out a lot of things we take for granted. What would be
 the
   main concern for the church would be whether the parties to the event
 were
   Catholic, had received the sacraments, and, in the case of marriages,
 that
   they were not currently married to another person. If birthplaces
 aren't
   mentioned it is because, in all probability, all participants were
 known to
   be members of the parish where the event was being celebrated.
 
  
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   On Monday, March 26, 2012 4:36:51 AM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:
 
   I need help with deciphering this record, I am wondering if it states
   where their parents are from?
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

2012-03-26 Thread Pam Santos
That is so cool Thanks and thanks for letting me know you don't see if it
stated where they were from. Manuel I will email you what I have if that is
ok.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote:

 I didn't see anything to indicate where the parents were from, but, early
 records left out a lot of things we take for granted. What would be the
 main concern for the church would be whether the parties to the event were
 Catholic, had received the sacraments, and, in the case of marriages, that
 they were not currently married to another person. If birthplaces aren't
 mentioned it is because, in all probability, all participants were known to
 be members of the parish where the event was being celebrated.

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 On Monday, March 26, 2012 4:36:51 AM UTC-4, Pam Santos wrote:

 I need help with deciphering this record, I am wondering if it states
 where their parents are from?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

2012-03-06 Thread Pam Santos
Thanks Jr, will check the area and surrounding churches before Teceira

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well just what I have posted Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. Baptism
 for three of his children says he is from Matriz, Villa C. I am looking for
 the marriage now, I found three children Joseph born 03 May 1713, Antonia
 born 13 Jun 1716, and Manuel 10 Apr 1719. I am in the year 1709 and nothing
 so far, so they may not have married in Rosario, Lagoa


 On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:48 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote:

 The record No- 0214 reads as follows:

 Francisco Tavares son of Manuel Fragoso and Barbara de Sam (Sao)
 Andre. He was baptised in (N. he left out the N) Senhora da Conceycao
 (Conceicao) cidade de Angra, Ilha de Terceira married on Oct 3, 1733,
 to Maria de Pimentel filha de Joseph Correa, defunto, (deceased) and
 Theresa de Frias baptised in NS do Rosario. Fragoso is a common name
 in Sao Miguel, in Lagoa and other places, so look there before you
 look in Angra, Terceira, for Francisco's parents. It could simply be
 that he was only baptised in Terceira and not necessarily from that
 island.

 JR

 On Mar 5, 10:51 am, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Pam, I sent you an email regarding a da Ponte I just discovered in
  Velas, he was from Agua de Pau and married my gr grandfather's niece.
  here is the info.  I thought I should post directly to the list as
  well in case anyone else is searching this thread.  here is the basic
  translation  I can send the record.
  1880 marriage: Joze da Ponte Guedella 29 years and Jannaria Emila de
  Ponte.  son of Francisco da Ponte Guedella and Maria ?coraceau de
  Jesus, freguesia angra de pau and she 19 years, single of Velas
  daughter of Joze Pedro da Silveira and Anna Emilia Furtado of Velas.
 
  I wanted to attach the record but other than emailing it to the list I
  don't know if there is a way to attach it to a reply like this.
  Anyone know if that can be done?
 
  Suzanne da Rosa
 
  On Mar 5, 8:20 am, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
   Pam,
 
   I have a few in my line from Agua de Pau; do you have the particulars
   on your da Ponte?
 
   Margaret Vicente
 
   On 3/4/12, Richard  Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
No I do not have any Ponte's
 
Rick
 
Richard Francis Pimentel
Spring, TX
Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire
 
Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada
 Grande,
Sao Miguel, Acores
-Original Message-
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of
sdarosa
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:52 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record
 
Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line?
I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is from
 Velas,
married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao Miguel.
  They were
both living in Velas.
 
This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the
 Island of
Velas.
 
On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard  Francis Pimentel
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Pam,
 
This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of
 Maria
de Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de
Pimentel daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa
 Gouveir.
 
I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have
 been
confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before.
Francisco parents would be on the record of his first marriage or
perhaps on the baptisms of his children.
 
Rick
 
Richard Francis Pimentel
 
Spring, TX
 
Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire
 
Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada
Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores
 
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Pam Santos
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record
 
Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia
Gouveia, the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and
 Antonia De
Ponte.
Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares
 and
Maria De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as
 Antonia
De Pimentel parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had
 three of
their children's marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found
 the
same three children with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel.
 How
do you know for sure its them?
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

2012-03-06 Thread Pam Santos
Thanks so much!!! Really appreciate it

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 3:23 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote:

 A few corrections, Pedro da Ponte marriage, all were residents of
 Rosario Lagoa

 In Jose Correa Marriage (0065), All are natives and residents of
 Rosario and Mathias de Oliveira was deceased.

 On Mar 6, 5:58 pm, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote:
  The record- 0092- I found says:
 
  NS do Rosario- June 8- 1701
  Pedro da Ponte, filho de Goncalo Travassos e Clara da Ponte residents
  of Santa Cruz Lagoa and where he was baptised.
  married to
  Thereza Govea de Azevedo, filha de Manuel Govea e Maria Rebella
  residenta of Santa Cruz, Lagoa where she was baptised.
  all nats of Rosario, Lagoa.
 
  Feb 4- 1699 Rosario
  Jose Correa, filho de Antonio Correa and Maria de Pimentel
  married to
  Theresa de Frias, filha de Mathias de Oliveira and Barbara Teixeira
 
  JR
 
  On Mar 6, 1:34 am, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
   Well just what I have posted Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia.
 Baptism
   for three of his children says he is from Matriz, Villa C. I am
 looking for
   the marriage now, I found three children Joseph born 03 May 1713,
 Antonia
   born 13 Jun 1716, and Manuel 10 Apr 1719. I am in the year 1709 and
 nothing
   so far, so they may not have married in Rosario, Lagoa
 
   On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:48 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote:
The record No- 0214 reads as follows:
 
Francisco Tavares son of Manuel Fragoso and Barbara de Sam (Sao)
Andre. He was baptised in (N. he left out the N) Senhora da Conceycao
(Conceicao) cidade de Angra, Ilha de Terceira married on Oct 3, 1733,
to Maria de Pimentel filha de Joseph Correa, defunto, (deceased) and
Theresa de Frias baptised in NS do Rosario. Fragoso is a common name
in Sao Miguel, in Lagoa and other places, so look there before you
look in Angra, Terceira, for Francisco's parents. It could simply be
that he was only baptised in Terceira and not necessarily from that
island.
 
JR
 
On Mar 5, 10:51 am, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Pam, I sent you an email regarding a da Ponte I just discovered
 in
 Velas, he was from Agua de Pau and married my gr grandfather's
 niece.
 here is the info.  I thought I should post directly to the list as
 well in case anyone else is searching this thread.  here is the
 basic
 translation  I can send the record.
 1880 marriage: Joze da Ponte Guedella 29 years and Jannaria Emila
 de
 Ponte.  son of Francisco da Ponte Guedella and Maria ?coraceau de
 Jesus, freguesia angra de pau and she 19 years, single of Velas
 daughter of Joze Pedro da Silveira and Anna Emilia Furtado of
 Velas.
 
 I wanted to attach the record but other than emailing it to the
 list I
 don't know if there is a way to attach it to a reply like this.
 Anyone know if that can be done?
 
 Suzanne da Rosa
 
 On Mar 5, 8:20 am, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Pam,
 
  I have a few in my line from Agua de Pau; do you have the
 particulars
  on your da Ponte?
 
  Margaret Vicente
 
  On 3/4/12, Richard  Francis Pimentel 
 rfrancispimen...@comcast.net
wrote:
 
   No I do not have any Ponte's
 
   Rick
 
   Richard Francis Pimentel
   Spring, TX
   Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire
 
   Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and
 Achada
Grande,
   Sao Miguel, Acores
   -Original Message-
   From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com]
 On
Behalf Of
   sdarosa
   Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:52 AM
   To: Azores Genealogy
   Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record
 
   Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line?
   I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is
 from
Velas,
   married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao
 Miguel.
 They were
   both living in Velas.
 
   This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the
Island of
   Velas.
 
   On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard  Francis Pimentel
   rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:
   Hi Pam,
 
   This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower
 of Maria
   de Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia
 de
   Pimentel daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa
Gouveir.
 
   I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may
 have been
   confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it
 before.
   Francisco parents would be on the record of his first
 marriage or
   perhaps on the baptisms of his children.
 
   Rick
 
   Richard Francis Pimentel
 
   Spring, TX
 
   Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire
 
   Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and
 Achada
   Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores
 
   From: azores

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

2012-03-05 Thread Margaret Vicente
Pam,

I have a few in my line from Agua de Pau; do you have the particulars
on your da Ponte?

Margaret Vicente

On 3/4/12, Richard  Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:
 No I do not have any Ponte's

 Rick

 Richard Francis Pimentel
 Spring, TX
 Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire

 Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,
 Sao Miguel, Acores
 -Original Message-
 From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
 sdarosa
 Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:52 AM
 To: Azores Genealogy
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

 Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line?
 I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is from Velas,
 married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao Miguel.  They were
 both living in Velas.

 This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the Island of
 Velas.


 On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard  Francis Pimentel
 rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:
 Hi Pam,

 This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria
 de Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de
 Pimentel daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir.

 I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been
 confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before.
 Francisco parents would be on the record of his first marriage or
 perhaps on the baptisms of his children.

 Rick

 Richard Francis Pimentel

 Spring, TX

 Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire

 Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada
 Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores

 From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Pam Santos
 Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record

 Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia
 Gouveia, the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De
 Ponte.
 Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and
 Maria De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia
 De Pimentel parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of
 their children's marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the
 same three children with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How
 do you know for sure its them?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

2012-03-05 Thread Pam Santos
Well just what I have posted Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. Baptism
for three of his children says he is from Matriz, Villa C. I am looking for
the marriage now, I found three children Joseph born 03 May 1713, Antonia
born 13 Jun 1716, and Manuel 10 Apr 1719. I am in the year 1709 and nothing
so far, so they may not have married in Rosario, Lagoa

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:48 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote:

 The record No- 0214 reads as follows:

 Francisco Tavares son of Manuel Fragoso and Barbara de Sam (Sao)
 Andre. He was baptised in (N. he left out the N) Senhora da Conceycao
 (Conceicao) cidade de Angra, Ilha de Terceira married on Oct 3, 1733,
 to Maria de Pimentel filha de Joseph Correa, defunto, (deceased) and
 Theresa de Frias baptised in NS do Rosario. Fragoso is a common name
 in Sao Miguel, in Lagoa and other places, so look there before you
 look in Angra, Terceira, for Francisco's parents. It could simply be
 that he was only baptised in Terceira and not necessarily from that
 island.

 JR

 On Mar 5, 10:51 am, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Pam, I sent you an email regarding a da Ponte I just discovered in
  Velas, he was from Agua de Pau and married my gr grandfather's niece.
  here is the info.  I thought I should post directly to the list as
  well in case anyone else is searching this thread.  here is the basic
  translation  I can send the record.
  1880 marriage: Joze da Ponte Guedella 29 years and Jannaria Emila de
  Ponte.  son of Francisco da Ponte Guedella and Maria ?coraceau de
  Jesus, freguesia angra de pau and she 19 years, single of Velas
  daughter of Joze Pedro da Silveira and Anna Emilia Furtado of Velas.
 
  I wanted to attach the record but other than emailing it to the list I
  don't know if there is a way to attach it to a reply like this.
  Anyone know if that can be done?
 
  Suzanne da Rosa
 
  On Mar 5, 8:20 am, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
   Pam,
 
   I have a few in my line from Agua de Pau; do you have the particulars
   on your da Ponte?
 
   Margaret Vicente
 
   On 3/4/12, Richard  Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
No I do not have any Ponte's
 
Rick
 
Richard Francis Pimentel
Spring, TX
Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire
 
Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada
 Grande,
Sao Miguel, Acores
-Original Message-
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of
sdarosa
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:52 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record
 
Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line?
I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is from
 Velas,
married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao Miguel.
  They were
both living in Velas.
 
This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the
 Island of
Velas.
 
On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard  Francis Pimentel
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Pam,
 
This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria
de Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de
Pimentel daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa
 Gouveir.
 
I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been
confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before.
Francisco parents would be on the record of his first marriage or
perhaps on the baptisms of his children.
 
Rick
 
Richard Francis Pimentel
 
Spring, TX
 
Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire
 
Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada
Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores
 
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Pam Santos
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record
 
Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia
Gouveia, the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and
 Antonia De
Ponte.
Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares
 and
Maria De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia
De Pimentel parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three
 of
their children's marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found
 the
same three children with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How
do you know for sure its them?
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

2012-03-04 Thread Pam Santos
thanks I really missed that one

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:51 AM, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line?
 I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is from
 Velas, married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao
 Miguel.  They were both living in Velas.

 This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the Island
 of Velas.


 On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard  Francis Pimentel
 rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:
  Hi Pam,
 
  This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria de
  Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel
  daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir.
 
  I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been
  confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before.
  Francisco
  parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the
  baptisms of his children.
 
  Rick
 
  Richard Francis Pimentel
 
  Spring, TX
 
  Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire
 
  Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,
  Sao Miguel, Acores
 
  From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of
  Pam Santos
  Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record
 
  Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia
 Gouveia,
  the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De Ponte.
  Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and
 Maria
  De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia De
 Pimentel
  parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of their
 children's
  marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the same three children
  with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How do you know for sure its
  them?
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

2012-03-04 Thread Pam Santos
Does it say they are both from Rosario, Lagoa?

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

 thanks I really missed that one


 On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:51 AM, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line?
 I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is from
 Velas, married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao
 Miguel.  They were both living in Velas.

 This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the Island
 of Velas.


 On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard  Francis Pimentel
 rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:
  Hi Pam,
 
  This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria de
  Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel
  daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir.
 
  I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been
  confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before.
  Francisco
  parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the
  baptisms of his children.
 
  Rick
 
  Richard Francis Pimentel
 
  Spring, TX
 
  Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire
 
  Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,
  Sao Miguel, Acores
 
  From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of
  Pam Santos
  Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record
 
  Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia
 Gouveia,
  the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De Ponte.
  Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and
 Maria
  De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia De
 Pimentel
  parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of their
 children's
  marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the same three
 children
  with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How do you know for sure
 its
  them?
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

2012-03-04 Thread Pam Santos
Actually October?

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok found his first but I can decipher the date I know its Dec maybe the
 6th not sure year. and his father mansel (Manuel) Fragoso and barbara
 something. Hers Joseph ?  and ? Perreira.


 On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does it say they are both from Rosario, Lagoa?


 On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

 thanks I really missed that one


 On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:51 AM, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.comwrote:

 Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line?
 I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is from
 Velas, married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao
 Miguel.  They were both living in Velas.

 This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the Island
 of Velas.


 On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard  Francis Pimentel
 rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:
  Hi Pam,
 
  This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria
 de
  Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel
  daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir.
 
  I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been
  confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before.
  Francisco
  parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the
  baptisms of his children.
 
  Rick
 
  Richard Francis Pimentel
 
  Spring, TX
 
  Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire
 
  Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada
 Grande,
  Sao Miguel, Acores
 
  From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of
  Pam Santos
  Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record
 
  Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia
 Gouveia,
  the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De
 Ponte.
  Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and
 Maria
  De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia De
 Pimentel
  parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of their
 children's
  marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the same three
 children
  with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How do you know for sure
 its
  them?
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

2012-03-04 Thread Pam Santos
thanks neither can I, I can't read this priest handwriting, most others I
can but his drives me crazy lol

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:

 *This is what I have so far.*

 * *

 *The date is 6 Dec 1736 (hint: look at the preceding page and the
 following page)*

 * *

 *Francisco Tavares son of Manuel Fragoso and Barbara (?) he was baptized
 in (it looks like) Santa Lucia Angra do Heroismo, Terceira*

 *Maria de Pimentel daughter of Jose Gouvier (deceased)  Teresa de (?)
 she was baptized in NS Rosario, Lagoa*

 * *

 * I cannot make out the second names on the two mothers.*

 * *

 *Rick*

 * *

 *Richard Francis Pimentel*

 *Spring, TX*

 *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire *

 * *

 *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada
 Grande,  Sao Miguel, Acores*

 * *

 *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Pam Santos
 *Sent:* Sunday, March 04, 2012 11:26 AM
 *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

 ** **

 Actually October?

 On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:*
 ***

 Ok found his first but I can decipher the date I know its Dec maybe the
 6th not sure year. and his father mansel (Manuel) Fragoso and barbara
 something. Hers Joseph ?  and ? Perreira.

 ** **

 On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:*
 ***

 Does it say they are both from Rosario, Lagoa?

 ** **

 On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:*
 ***

 thanks I really missed that one


 On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard  Francis Pimentel

 rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:
  Hi Pam,
 
  This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria de
  Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel
  daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir.
 
  I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been
  confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before.
  Francisco
  parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the
  baptisms of his children.
 
  Rick
 
  Richard Francis Pimentel
 
  Spring, TX
 
  Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire
 
  Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,
  Sao Miguel, Acores
 
  From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of
  Pam Santos
  Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record
 
  Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia
 Gouveia,
  the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De Ponte.
  Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and
 Maria
  De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia De
 Pimentel
  parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of their
 children's
  marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the same three children
  with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How do you know for sure its
  them?
 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

2012-03-04 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Something else I thought of is that his first and second wives were related
possibly half-sisters and Teresa Gouveir (married to Pedro de Ponte) and
this Teresa (?) married to Jose Gouveir are the same person. Just
speculation on my part.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Spring, TX

Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,
Sao Miguel, Acores

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Pam Santos
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:41 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

 

thanks neither can I, I can't read this priest handwriting, most others I
can but his drives me crazy lol

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:

This is what I have so far.

 

The date is 6 Dec 1736 (hint: look at the preceding page and the following
page)

 

Francisco Tavares son of Manuel Fragoso and Barbara (?) he was baptized in
(it looks like) Santa Lucia Angra do Heroismo, Terceira

Maria de Pimentel daughter of Jose Gouvier (deceased)  Teresa de (?) she
was baptized in NS Rosario, Lagoa

 

I cannot make out the second names on the two mothers.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Spring, TX

Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,
Sao Miguel, Acores

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Pam Santos
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 11:26 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

 

Actually October?

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

Ok found his first but I can decipher the date I know its Dec maybe the 6th
not sure year. and his father mansel (Manuel) Fragoso and barbara something.
Hers Joseph ?  and ? Perreira.

 

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

Does it say they are both from Rosario, Lagoa?

 

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

thanks I really missed that one

 

On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard  Francis Pimentel

rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:
 Hi Pam,

 This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria de
 Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel
 daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir.

 I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been
 confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before.
Francisco
 parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the
 baptisms of his children.

 Rick

 Richard Francis Pimentel

 Spring, TX

 Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire

 Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,
 Sao Miguel, Acores

 From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of
 Pam Santos
 Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record

 Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia
Gouveia,
 the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De Ponte.
 Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and
Maria
 De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia De Pimentel
 parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of their
children's
 marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the same three children
 with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How do you know for sure its
 them?

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

2012-03-04 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
It only says she is from Lagoa. Because he is named a widower it does not
say on him.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Spring, TX

Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire 

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,
Sao Miguel, Acores

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Pam Santos
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2012 10:56 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

 

Does it say they are both from Rosario, Lagoa?

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

thanks I really missed that one

 

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:51 AM, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.com wrote:

Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line?
I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is from
Velas, married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao
Miguel.  They were both living in Velas.

This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the Island
of Velas.


On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard  Francis Pimentel

rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:
 Hi Pam,

 This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria de
 Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel
 daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir.

 I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been
 confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before.
Francisco
 parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the
 baptisms of his children.

 Rick

 Richard Francis Pimentel

 Spring, TX

 Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire

 Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,
 Sao Miguel, Acores

 From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of
 Pam Santos
 Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record

 Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia
Gouveia,
 the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De Ponte.
 Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and
Maria
 De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia De Pimentel
 parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of their
children's
 marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the same three children
 with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How do you know for sure its
 them?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

2012-03-04 Thread Pam Santos
thanks again for your help, really appreciate it.

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:

 *It only says she is from Lagoa. Because he is named a widower it does
 not say on him.*

 * *

 *Rick*

 * *

 *Richard Francis Pimentel*

 *Spring, TX*

 *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire *

 * *

 *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada
 Grande,  Sao Miguel, Acores*

 * *

 *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Pam Santos
 *Sent:* Sunday, March 04, 2012 10:56 AM

 *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with record

 ** **

 Does it say they are both from Rosario, Lagoa?

 On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:*
 ***

 thanks I really missed that one

 ** **

 On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:51 AM, sdarosa suzanne.dar...@gmail.com wrote:*
 ***

 Richard, do you have da Pontes in your sao Miguel line?
 I just found a marriage of my gr grandfather's niece, who is from
 Velas, married a da Ponte in 1888 who was from Agua da Pace, Sao
 Miguel.  They were both living in Velas.

 This is my first record of anyone marrying someone from off the Island
 of Velas.


 On Mar 3, 10:25 pm, Richard  Francis Pimentel

 rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:
  Hi Pam,
 
  This is what I read on 2 Jan 1744 Francisco Tavares widower of Maria de
  Pimentel buried in this parish and church married Antonia de Pimentel
  daughter of Pedro de Ponte being deceased and Teresa Gouveir.
 
  I would say that this is them I would guess the scribe may have been
  confused and may have got the names wrong. I have seen it before.
  Francisco
  parents would be on the record of his first marriage or perhaps on the
  baptisms of his children.
 
  Rick
 
  Richard Francis Pimentel
 
  Spring, TX
 
  Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire
 
  Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha Ponta Delgada, and Achada Grande,
  Sao Miguel, Acores
 
  From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of
  Pam Santos
  Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:32 PM
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record
 
  Ok so I think I found the marriage of Francisco Tavares and Antonia
 Gouveia,
  the problem is the margain shows Francisco Tavares and Antonia De Ponte.
  Need verification that is says his parents were Francisco Tavares and
 Maria
  De Pimentel and in the body it shows Antonia's name as Antonia De
 Pimentel
  parents Pedro De Ponte and Theresa Gouveia. I had three of their
 children's
  marriages and it shows her using Gouveia. I found the same three children
  with her using Gouveia, Ponte, and Pimentel. How do you know for sure its
  them?
 
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