Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi JRoias
Yes. That is the same Antonio de Medeiros married in 1737 I didnt bother with Nordestinho cause they were having children already in 1698. While marriages in Nordestinho only start in 1700.Since Maria de Medeiros was born in Faial da Terra, that would be my first bet for where they married, but marriages only start in 1696. Since they were having children in 1698 maybe they could have married where the records are lost (bef. 1696) or as you mention in the time period that Nordeste records seem to be missing. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em sex, 9/11/12, JR jro...@rogers.com escreveu: De: JR jro...@rogers.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Novembro de 2012, 0:52 You say that Antonio is the son of Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros? Would this be Antonio de Medeiros and Ana de Pimentel, married Nov 21-1737? It seems the marriage of Manuel Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros is not in my database. Did you try Nordestinho? I found it quite difficult in the early part and tried slogging through the baptisms. There is no question some marriages are missing in Nordeste in the 1646-1650 era and later in early 1700's, such as the period of 1698-1710. The records there are quite difficult, even in the baptisms. On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:11:39 AM UTC-5, Mara wrote:Marcio and Judi, I'm also a direct descendent of this couple through their son Antonio. Margaret On 11/8/12, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I found a few more records on your Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros. Their first child was a Manuel, b. Sep. 7 1698.He also went by Manuel da Costa Pedres, as is shows in the birth of his child Antonio, Sep. 15 1704. The godmother of this Antonio was Isabel da Costa, daughter of Manuel da Costa Pedres, deceased. I think Isabel da Costa and your Manuel da Costa Ponte AKA Pedres were siblings. Both children of a Manuel da Costa Pedres. I never heard of the surname Pedres or even as a nick name, which it seems in this case to me. Maybe someone on the list could have something on this surname/nickname Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com --- Em qua, 7/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Quarta-feira, 7 de Novembro de 2012, 13:19 Marcio,This Manoel da Costa Ponte married Maria de Medeiros is the grandfather of Josepha Medeiros Pacheco in my chart. That is all I have on him.I also have a Manoel da Costa Ponte son of Jose da Costa And BeatrIz Goncalves, born 23 Apr 1645 in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Catarina da Costa 1690 in Santo Antonio alem Capelas, died in Capelas 29 Jan 1741. He is in my paternal line.I can get you more on him if needed.Judi Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I see in your tree that you have a Costa Ponte line. Were you able to find more on them? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com --- Em ter, 6/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Emanuel Resendes Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012, 20:33 It helps if I send the attachment. Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:37:02 -0800 From: ema...@resendes.ws To: azo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Judi, I also descend from Pedro Vaz Marinheiro (15th Gen Ancestor). Do you have the tree from him to Josepha Medeiros Pacheco? On Friday, November 2, 2012 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote: Isabel da Costa was born 02 Jul 1679, married Manoel Rodrigues Afonso on 19 Nov 1711 in Martiz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He was born in Sao Pedro, Vila Franca and died before 1741. Daughter Maria Franco born abt 1720 in Matriz Sao Jorge, died before 1792. She married Felipe Araujo son of Manoel Aguiar Jr and Maria de Araujo on 15 July 1741, he died 23 May 1774. Francisco Franco son of Felipe Araujo and Maria Franco was born 14 Nov 1744 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste and died before 02 Mar 1783 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He married Josepha Medeiros Pacheco daughter of Francisco Pacheco and Isabel de Medeiros on 23 May 1774. Josepha was born 19 Mar 1748 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. Manoel Franco Pacheco was born 24 Feb 1775 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 01 Sep 1842 in Matriz Sao Jorge. He married first time to Maria Francesca Pimental daughter of Francisco Furtado and Maria Pimental 06 Mar1795 in Matriz Sao Jorge. She died 22 Feb 1810. Manoel Franco
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi JRoias
I recall retrieving some baptisms pre-1700 from Nordestinho. I just looked it up, and it starts circa 1687. JR On Thursday, November 8, 2012 7:27:54 PM UTC-5, Azoreanno wrote: Yes. That is the same Antonio de Medeiros married in 1737 I didnt bother with Nordestinho cause they were having children already in 1698. While marriages in Nordestinho only start in 1700. Since Maria de Medeiros was born in Faial da Terra, that would be my first bet for where they married, but marriages only start in 1696. Since they were having children in 1698 maybe they could have married where the records are lost (bef. 1696) or as you mention in the time period that Nordeste records seem to be missing. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em *sex, 9/11/12, JR jro...@rogers.com javascript:* escreveu: De: JR jro...@rogers.com javascript: Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Novembro de 2012, 0:52 You say that Antonio is the son of Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros? Would this be Antonio de Medeiros and Ana de Pimentel, married Nov 21-1737? It seems the marriage of Manuel Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros is not in my database. Did you try Nordestinho? I found it quite difficult in the early part and tried slogging through the baptisms. There is no question some marriages are missing in Nordeste in the 1646-1650 era and later in early 1700's, such as the period of 1698-1710. The records there are quite difficult, even in the baptisms. On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:11:39 AM UTC-5, Mara wrote: Marcio and Judi, I'm also a direct descendent of this couple through their son Antonio. Margaret On 11/8/12, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I found a few more records on your Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros. Their first child was a Manuel, b. Sep. 7 1698.He also went by Manuel da Costa Pedres, as is shows in the birth of his child Antonio, Sep. 15 1704. The godmother of this Antonio was Isabel da Costa, daughter of Manuel da Costa Pedres, deceased. I think Isabel da Costa and your Manuel da Costa Ponte AKA Pedres were siblings. Both children of a Manuel da Costa Pedres. I never heard of the surname Pedres or even as a nick name, which it seems in this case to me. Maybe someone on the list could have something on this surname/nickname Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. comhttp://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qua, 7/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Quarta-feira, 7 de Novembro de 2012, 13:19 Marcio,This Manoel da Costa Ponte married Maria de Medeiros is the grandfather of Josepha Medeiros Pacheco in my chart. That is all I have on him.I also have a Manoel da Costa Ponte son of Jose da Costa And BeatrIz Goncalves, born 23 Apr 1645 in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Catarina da Costa 1690 in Santo Antonio alem Capelas, died in Capelas 29 Jan 1741. He is in my paternal line.I can get you more on him if needed.Judi Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I see in your tree that you have a Costa Ponte line. Were you able to find more on them? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. comhttp://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em ter, 6/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Emanuel Resendes Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012, 20:33 It helps if I send the attachment. Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:37:02 -0800 From: ema...@resendes.ws To: azo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Judi, I also descend from Pedro Vaz Marinheiro (15th Gen Ancestor). Do you have the tree from him to Josepha Medeiros Pacheco? On Friday, November 2, 2012 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote: Isabel da Costa was born 02 Jul 1679, married Manoel Rodrigues Afonso on 19 Nov 1711 in Martiz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He was born in Sao Pedro, Vila Franca and died before 1741. Daughter Maria Franco born abt 1720 in Matriz Sao Jorge, died before 1792. She married Felipe Araujo son of Manoel Aguiar Jr and Maria de Araujo on 15 July 1741, he died 23 May 1774. Francisco Franco son of Felipe Araujo and Maria Franco was born 14 Nov 1744 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste and died before 02 Mar 1783 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He married Josepha Medeiros
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi JRoias
Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros had children in Matriz Nordeste, and most likely married in Faial bef. 1698.The Nordestinho records from 1687 and forward wouldn't add any new info, except some more children. But to find Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros parents I would still need their marriage record.At same time this family doesn't seem to have ties to Nordestinho. Manuel was born in Nordeste and Maria in Faial, as some of their children baptism records mention Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em sex, 9/11/12, JR jro...@rogers.com escreveu: De: JR jro...@rogers.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi JRoias Para: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: jro...@rogers.com Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Novembro de 2012, 1:56 I recall retrieving some baptisms pre-1700 from Nordestinho. I just looked it up, and it starts circa 1687. JR On Thursday, November 8, 2012 7:27:54 PM UTC-5, Azoreanno wrote:Yes. That is the same Antonio de Medeiros married in 1737 I didnt bother with Nordestinho cause they were having children already in 1698. While marriages in Nordestinho only start in 1700.Since Maria de Medeiros was born in Faial da Terra, that would be my first bet for where they married, but marriages only start in 1696. Since they were having children in 1698 maybe they could have married where the records are lost (bef. 1696) or as you mention in the time period that Nordeste records seem to be missing. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com --- Em sex, 9/11/12, JR jro...@rogers.com escreveu: De: JR jro...@rogers.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Novembro de 2012, 0:52 You say that Antonio is the son of Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros? Would this be Antonio de Medeiros and Ana de Pimentel, married Nov 21-1737? It seems the marriage of Manuel Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros is not in my database. Did you try Nordestinho? I found it quite difficult in the early part and tried slogging through the baptisms. There is no question some marriages are missing in Nordeste in the 1646-1650 era and later in early 1700's, such as the period of 1698-1710. The records there are quite difficult, even in the baptisms. On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:11:39 AM UTC-5, Mara wrote:Marcio and Judi, I'm also a direct descendent of this couple through their son Antonio. Margaret On 11/8/12, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I found a few more records on your Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros. Their first child was a Manuel, b. Sep. 7 1698.He also went by Manuel da Costa Pedres, as is shows in the birth of his child Antonio, Sep. 15 1704. The godmother of this Antonio was Isabel da Costa, daughter of Manuel da Costa Pedres, deceased. I think Isabel da Costa and your Manuel da Costa Ponte AKA Pedres were siblings. Both children of a Manuel da Costa Pedres. I never heard of the surname Pedres or even as a nick name, which it seems in this case to me. Maybe someone on the list could have something on this surname/nickname Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com --- Em qua, 7/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Quarta-feira, 7 de Novembro de 2012, 13:19 Marcio,This Manoel da Costa Ponte married Maria de Medeiros is the grandfather of Josepha Medeiros Pacheco in my chart. That is all I have on him.I also have a Manoel da Costa Ponte son of Jose da Costa And BeatrIz Goncalves, born 23 Apr 1645 in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Catarina da Costa 1690 in Santo Antonio alem Capelas, died in Capelas 29 Jan 1741. He is in my paternal line.I can get you more on him if needed.Judi Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I see in your tree that you have a Costa Ponte line. Were you able to find more on them? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com --- Em ter, 6/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Emanuel Resendes Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012, 20:33 It helps if I send the attachment. Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:37:02 -0800 From: ema...@resendes.ws To: azo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Judi, I also descend from Pedro Vaz Marinheiro (15th Gen Ancestor). Do you have the tree from him to Josepha Medeiros Pacheco? On Friday, November 2, 2012 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote
