Re: [backstage] iPlayer usage
Good point actually Christopher - and you're not the first to suggest it. I think this list has evolved over time to be a general discussion group around vaguely technical areas at the BBC - when it was first set up it was always going to be a 'noisy' list - and we've always recommended that you deploy filters rather than stopping debate. We do not pre-moderate this list at all - and long may that stay. However, we did recognise that there was a need for a purely developer focused[1] list and that was implemented - I'm not sure we should start a new list for iPlayer discussion - I think the discussion going on here raises really important questions for the BBC and it's users, I don't want that to go away. Having said all of that we do plan to roll out new forum software in phase 2 of the new website that will allow you to still interact with the list in exactly the same way as now, but also subscribe and un-subscribe to various topics via that software - therefore allowing you to personalise the list to the areas that you are interested in. We will all of course be very sad to stop using MajorDomo. M [1] - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/10/new_backstage_d.html On 18/10/07 01:46, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I the only person who thinks that there should be backstage-iplayer? ;) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC5C3, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] iPhone SDK news
Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ -- note: requires Safari to view, or an iphone/touch obviously! S From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Deutsch Sent: 17 October 2007 17:36 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I'd say that Apple have a good track record of releasing things, generally when they say they will. The only major product I can recall not seeing the light of day was Copland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copland_%2528operating_system%2529 , over 10 years ago. - martin On 10/17/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/10/2007, Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/ Native third party applications on the iPhone (and iPod touch) will be enabled via an SDK as of February 2008. There's a name for that .. vapourware - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv http://www.ukfree.tv/
Re: [backstage] iPlayer usage
Matthew Cashmore wrote: We will all of course be very sad to stop using MajorDomo. Ha! S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPlayer usage
Adam Lindsay wrote: I went back and noticed that the original poster's question wasn't answered: are there any plans to reveal statistics on iPlayer usage? http://www.bbc.co.uk/foi/ You could always ask directly... :-) S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news
I was thinking of doing something similar for Windows Media Player.. On 18/10/2007, Simon Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ -- note: requires Safari to view, or an iphone/touch obviously! S -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Martin Deutsch *Sent:* 17 October 2007 17:36 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I'd say that Apple have a good track record of releasing things, generally when they say they will. The only major product I can recall not seeing the light of day was Coplandhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copland_%2528operating_system%2529, over 10 years ago. - martin On 10/17/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/10/2007, Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/ Native third party applications on the iPhone (and iPod touch) will be enabled via an SDK as of February 2008. There's a name for that .. vapourware - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] iPlayer usage
On 18/10/2007, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Lindsay wrote: I went back and noticed that the original poster's question wasn't answered: are there any plans to reveal statistics on iPlayer usage? http://www.bbc.co.uk/foi/ You could always ask directly... :-) You could ask ... I would be after Jana Bennet's BlackBerry records first... S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
RE: [backstage] iPhone SDK news
You should do, Windows media player can be embedded and played on Windows mobile 5 6 devices no problem. Plus you all know the streaming urls and screen sizes of most windows mobile devices. I would use it for sure. Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 18 October 2007 11:21 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I was thinking of doing something similar for Windows Media Player.. On 18/10/2007, Simon Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ -- note: requires Safari to view, or an iphone/touch obviously! S From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Martin Deutsch Sent: 17 October 2007 17:36 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I'd say that Apple have a good track record of releasing things, generally when they say they will. The only major product I can recall not seeing the light of day was Copland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copland_%2528operating_system%2529 , over 10 years ago. - martin On 10/17/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/10/2007, Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/ Native third party applications on the iPhone (and iPod touch) will be enabled via an SDK as of February 2008. There's a name for that .. vapourware - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv http://www.ukfree.tv/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
Long time coming but: Apple opens up iPhone to app developers http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/17/iphone_sdk/ The iPhone and iTouch are to get a Software Developers Kit in February next year, allowing developers to create proper native applications for the platform and allowing it to properly compete with other smart phones, Steve Jobs announced on the company's website today.(Wed)... Phil On 18 Oct 2007, at 12:41, Ian Forrester wrote: You should do, Windows media player can be embedded and played on Windows mobile 5 6 devices no problem. Plus you all know the streaming urls and screen sizes of most windows mobile devices. I would use it for sure. Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 18 October 2007 11:21 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I was thinking of doing something similar for Windows Media Player.. On 18/10/2007, Simon Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ -- note: requires Safari to view, or an iphone/touch obviously! S From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: owner- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Deutsch Sent: 17 October 2007 17:36 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I'd say that Apple have a good track record of releasing things, generally when they say they will. The only major product I can recall not seeing the light of day was Copland, over 10 years ago. - martin On 10/17/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/10/2007, Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/ Native third party applications on the iPhone (and iPod touch) will be enabled via an SDK as of February 2008. There's a name for that .. vapourware - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] iPlayer usage
hmm, IANAL but me reckons iplayer usage numbers would probably fall under that catch-all its about broadcasting and the way we do our business, innit? FOI get out clause that keeps the Balen Report out of the public eye On 18/10/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Lindsay wrote: I went back and noticed that the original poster's question wasn't answered: are there any plans to reveal statistics on iPlayer usage? http://www.bbc.co.uk/foi/ You could always ask directly... :-) You could ask ... I would be after Jana Bennet's BlackBerry records first... S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Martin Belam - http://www.currybet.net - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? It seems to me this is a way of deflecting criticism (and possibly regulation) from the device? On 18/10/2007, hayfielddigitalparish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Long time coming but: Apple opens up iPhone to app developers* http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/17/iphone_sdk/** The iPhone and iTouch are to get a Software Developers Kit in February next year, allowing developers to create proper native applications for the platform and allowing it to properly compete with other smart phones, Steve Jobs announced on the company's website today.(*Wed*)... * * Phil * * On 18 Oct 2007, at 12:41, Ian Forrester wrote: You should do, Windows media player can be embedded and played on Windows mobile 5 6 devices no problem. Plus you all know the streaming urls and screen sizes of most windows mobile devices. I would use it for sure. Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 18 October 2007 11:21 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I was thinking of doing something similar for Windows Media Player.. On 18/10/2007, Simon Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ -- note: requires Safari to view, or an iphone/touch obviously! S -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Martin Deutsch *Sent:* 17 October 2007 17:36 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I'd say that Apple have a good track record of releasing things, generally when they say they will. The only major product I can recall not seeing the light of day was Coplandhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copland_%2528operating_system%2529, over 10 years ago. - martin On 10/17/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/10/2007, Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/ Native third party applications on the iPhone (and iPod touch) will be enabled via an SDK as of February 2008. There's a name for that .. vapourware - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news
On 18/10/2007, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should do, Windows media player can be embedded and played on Windows mobile 5 6 devices no problem. Plus you all know the streaming urls and screen sizes of most windows mobile devices. I would use it for sure. Oh right. What I was thinking was that it would be very useful to be presented with all the podcasts in a latest published release, and have just a few buttons: - play now - mark to download - an I love this button, so you get to see this podcast highlighted when there is a new version available and (press again) to download automatically - an I hate this button, this would become a low priority on the first press, and become hidden eventually - an I've already heard this button The love/hate facility would simply increment/decrement an internal counter for the podcast feed. I suspect you could also have a prioritization system based upon the channel that originated the programme. Another useful facility would be to see which programmes are downloaded by each user - you could then do a people who like this also liked Is there a master index for all the BBC's podcasts? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 18 October 2007 11:21 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I was thinking of doing something similar for Windows Media Player.. On 18/10/2007, Simon Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ -- note: requires Safari to view, or an iphone/touch obviously! S -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Martin Deutsch *Sent:* 17 October 2007 17:36 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I'd say that Apple have a good track record of releasing things, generally when they say they will. The only major product I can recall not seeing the light of day was Coplandhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copland_%2528operating_system%2529, over 10 years ago. - martin On 10/17/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/10/2007, Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/ Native third party applications on the iPhone (and iPod touch) will be enabled via an SDK as of February 2008. There's a name for that .. vapourware - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news
This would be a good place to start Brian... http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/ Which is a redirect from http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/ On 18/10/07 13:30, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should do, Windows media player can be embedded and played on Windows mobile 5 6 devices no problem. Plus you all know the streaming urls and screen sizes of most windows mobile devices. I would use it for sure. Oh right. What I was thinking was that it would be very useful to be presented with all the podcasts in a latest published release, and have just a few buttons: - play now - mark to download - an I love this button, so you get to see this podcast highlighted when there is a new version available and (press again) to download automatically - an I hate this button, this would become a low priority on the first press, and become hidden eventually - an I've already heard this button The love/hate facility would simply increment/decrement an internal counter for the podcast feed. I suspect you could also have a prioritization system based upon the channel that originated the programme. Another useful facility would be to see which programmes are downloaded by each user - you could then do a people who like this also liked Is there a master index for all the BBC's podcasts? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 18 October 2007 11:21 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I was thinking of doing something similar for Windows Media Player.. On 18/10/2007, Simon Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ -- note: requires Safari to view, or an iphone/touch obviously! S From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Martin Deutsch Sent: 17 October 2007 17:36 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I'd say that Apple have a good track record of releasing things, generally when they say they will. The only major product I can recall not seeing the light of day was Copland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copland_%2528operating_system%2529 , over 10 years ago. - martin On 10/17/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/10/2007, Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/ Native third party applications on the iPhone (and iPod touch) will be enabled via an SDK as of February 2008. There's a name for that .. vapourware - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC5C3, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959)
Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news
Simon, that sounds like a terribly restricting product that uses proprietary technology and potentially distorts the market for mobile phone technology - have you cleared this with the BBC Trust? I expect there will be questions in the House and a demo outside TVC if you don't ;-) On 18/10/2007, Simon Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ -- note: requires Safari to view, or an iphone/touch obviously! S From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Deutsch Sent: 17 October 2007 17:36 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I'd say that Apple have a good track record of releasing things, generally when they say they will. The only major product I can recall not seeing the light of day was Copland, over 10 years ago. - martin On 10/17/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/10/2007, Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/ Native third party applications on the iPhone (and iPod touch) will be enabled via an SDK as of February 2008. There's a name for that .. vapourware - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Martin Belam - http://www.currybet.net - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] What is to happen to Backstage?
I was just wondering what is to happen to Backstage.bbc.co.uk as part of the Thompson plans? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7050440.stm 'Future Media Technology Online, mobile, interactive, archives 120 - 130 Redundancies '
Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news
On 18/10/2007, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would be a good place to start Brian... http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/ A 'all podcast' RSS feed would be useful... Which is a redirect from http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/ On 18/10/07 13:30, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007, *Ian Forrester* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should do, Windows media player can be embedded and played on Windows mobile 5 6 devices no problem. Plus you all know the streaming urls and screen sizes of most windows mobile devices. I would use it for sure. Oh right. What I was thinking was that it would be very useful to be presented with all the podcasts in a latest published release, and have just a few buttons: - play now - mark to download - an I love this button, so you get to see this podcast highlighted when there is a new version available and (press again) to download automatically - an I hate this button, this would become a low priority on the first press, and become hidden eventually - an I've already heard this button The love/hate facility would simply increment/decrement an internal counter for the podcast feed. I suspect you could also have a prioritization system based upon the channel that originated the programme. Another useful facility would be to see which programmes are downloaded by each user - you could then do a people who like this also liked Is there a master index for all the BBC's podcasts? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 18 October 2007 11:21 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject: *Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I was thinking of doing something similar for Windows Media Player.. On 18/10/2007, *Simon Cross* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ -- note: requires Safari to view, or an iphone/touch obviously! S -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] *On Behalf Of *Martin Deutsch *Sent:* 17 October 2007 17:36 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I'd say that Apple have a good track record of releasing things, generally when they say they will. The only major product I can recall not seeing the light of day was Copland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copland_%2528operating_system%2529http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copland_%2528operating_system%2529, over 10 years ago. - martin On 10/17/07, *Brian Butterworth* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/10/2007, *Adam Lindsay* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/ Native third party applications on the iPhone (and iPod touch) will be enabled via an SDK as of February 2008. There's a name for that .. vapourware - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.htmlhttp://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ ___ *Matthew Cashmore *Development Producer * **BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation *BC5C3, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP *T:*020 8008 3959(02 83959) *M:*07711 913241(072 83959) -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
RE: [backstage] iPhone SDK news
A 'all podcast' RSS feed would be useful... Yep there is one, but at the moment we are just finishing it off before releasing it to the whole world. Don't worry, as soon as we're happy with it then you can all play with it :) -C. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? Steve Jobs gives a reasonable explanation in his announcement - that they want to implement a robust security model for third-party apps, something they don't need for internal development. http://www.apple.com/startpage/ S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] iPhone SDK news
Which, oddly I find works better on Gran Paradiso alpha 4 than it does on Safari (both on Windows XP). The latter manages to mangle the text in the lists as soon as graphics get loaded. Nice app though, and nice use of canvas for something vaguely useful From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Cross Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:54 AM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] iPhone SDK news Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ -- note: requires Safari to view, or an iphone/touch obviously! S _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Deutsch Sent: 17 October 2007 17:36 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I'd say that Apple have a good track record of releasing things, generally when they say they will. The only major product I can recall not seeing the light of day was Copland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copland_%2528operating_system%2529 , over 10 years ago. - martin On 10/17/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/10/2007, Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/ Native third party applications on the iPhone (and iPod touch) will be enabled via an SDK as of February 2008. There's a name for that .. vapourware - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv http://www.ukfree.tv/ * To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://www.hull.ac.uk/legal/email_disclaimer.html *
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
On 18/10/2007, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? Steve Jobs gives a reasonable explanation in his announcement - that they want to implement a robust security model for third-party apps, something they don't need for internal development. Which suggests that the OS is rubbish, doesn't it? http://www.apple.com/startpage/ S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
RE: [backstage] iPhone SDK news
Theres a master podcast OPML feed on the way. we'll let you know From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 18 October 2007 14:13 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news On 18/10/2007, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would be a good place to start Brian... http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/ A 'all podcast' RSS feed would be useful... Which is a redirect from http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/ On 18/10/07 13:30, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should do, Windows media player can be embedded and played on Windows mobile 5 6 devices no problem. Plus you all know the streaming urls and screen sizes of most windows mobile devices. I would use it for sure. Oh right. What I was thinking was that it would be very useful to be presented with all the podcasts in a latest published release, and have just a few buttons: - play now - mark to download - an I love this button, so you get to see this podcast highlighted when there is a new version available and (press again) to download automatically - an I hate this button, this would become a low priority on the first press, and become hidden eventually - an I've already heard this button The love/hate facility would simply increment/decrement an internal counter for the podcast feed. I suspect you could also have a prioritization system based upon the channel that originated the programme. Another useful facility would be to see which programmes are downloaded by each user - you could then do a people who like this also liked Is there a master index for all the BBC's podcasts? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 18 October 2007 11:21 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I was thinking of doing something similar for Windows Media Player.. On 18/10/2007, Simon Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/-- note: requires Safari to view, or an iphone/touch obviously! S From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Martin Deutsch Sent: 17 October 2007 17:36 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I'd say that Apple have a good track record of releasing things, generally when they say they will. The only major product I can recall not seeing the light of day was Copland
Re: [backstage] What is to happen to Backstage?
No major news here Brian business as normal. m On 18/10/07 14:09, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just wondering what is to happen to Backstage.bbc.co.uk http://Backstage.bbc.co.uk as part of the Thompson plans? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7050440.stm 'Future Media Technology Online, mobile, interactive, archives 120 - 130 Redundancies ' ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC5C3, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959)
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
Not really. Few internal trusted developers vs hoards of untrusted nefarious hackers - you're going to need different tools. J On 18/10/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? Steve Jobs gives a reasonable explanation in his announcement - that they want to implement a robust security model for third-party apps, something they don't need for internal development. Which suggests that the OS is rubbish, doesn't it? http://www.apple.com/startpage/ S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Jason Cartwright Web Specialist, EMEA Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44(0)2070313161
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
Steve Jolly wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? Steve Jobs gives a reasonable explanation in his announcement - that they want to implement a robust security model for third-party apps, something they don't need for internal development. http://www.apple.com/startpage/ And as I can attest to, having recently hacked my iPod touch, the security model that's in place right now is not sufficient. And anyway, classes and methods do not a full API make. Nor is an API alone the full SDK toolchain that is needed (and, now, promised). adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] What is to happen to Backstage?
That's great news! On 18/10/2007, Matthew Cashmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No major news here Brian – business as normal. m On 18/10/07 14:09, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just wondering what is to happen to Backstage.bbc.co.ukhttp://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ http://Backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ as part of the Thompson plans? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7050440.stm 'Future Media Technology Online, mobile, interactive, archives 120 - 130 Redundancies ' ___ *Matthew Cashmore *Development Producer * **BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation *BC5C3, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP *T:*020 8008 3959(02 83959) *M:*07711 913241(072 83959) -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
Brian you¹re in a very happy mood these last couple of days! Think of nice things like kittens and DRM free TV :-) m On 18/10/07 15:23, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? Steve Jobs gives a reasonable explanation in his announcement - that they want to implement a robust security model for third-party apps, something they don't need for internal development. Which suggests that the OS is rubbish, doesn't it? http://www.apple.com/startpage/ S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] iPhone SDK news
Why not try the BBC Podcasts Facebook App! http://apps.facebook.com/bbcpodcasts Feature requests welcome - but you can mark podcasts as your favourites, and it'll notify you when a new one becomes avaliable. S From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 18 October 2007 13:31 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news On 18/10/2007, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should do, Windows media player can be embedded and played on Windows mobile 5 6 devices no problem. Plus you all know the streaming urls and screen sizes of most windows mobile devices. I would use it for sure. Oh right. What I was thinking was that it would be very useful to be presented with all the podcasts in a latest published release, and have just a few buttons: - play now - mark to download - an I love this button, so you get to see this podcast highlighted when there is a new version available and (press again) to download automatically - an I hate this button, this would become a low priority on the first press, and become hidden eventually - an I've already heard this button The love/hate facility would simply increment/decrement an internal counter for the podcast feed. I suspect you could also have a prioritization system based upon the channel that originated the programme. Another useful facility would be to see which programmes are downloaded by each user - you could then do a people who like this also liked Is there a master index for all the BBC's podcasts? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [ x ] private; [ ] ask first; [ ] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44 (0)2080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 18 October 2007 11:21 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I was thinking of doing something similar for Windows Media Player.. On 18/10/2007, Simon Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ -- note: requires Safari to view, or an iphone/touch obviously! S From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Martin Deutsch Sent: 17 October 2007 17:36 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news I'd say that Apple have a good track record of releasing things, generally when they say they will. The only major product I can recall not seeing the light of day was Copland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copland_%2528operating_system%2529 , over 10 years ago. - martin On 10/17/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/10/2007, Adam Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/ Native third party applications on the iPhone (and iPod touch) will be enabled via an SDK as of February 2008. There's a name for that .. vapourware - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
Yeah, because perfect code is possible - and there is never a version 2.0 of any product. J On 18/10/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really. Few internal trusted developers vs hoards of untrusted nefarious hackers - you're going to need different tools. I thought that Apple's OS was supposed to be invunerable and incorruptible...? J On 18/10/2007, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/10/2007, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: Why does it take four months to publish a SDK? Surely Apple must be using the SDK already to create their own applications? Steve Jobs gives a reasonable explanation in his announcement - that they want to implement a robust security model for third-party apps, something they don't need for internal development. Which suggests that the OS is rubbish, doesn't it? http://www.apple.com/startpage/ S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html . Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Jason Cartwright Web Specialist, EMEA Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44(0)2070313161 -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -- Jason Cartwright Web Specialist, EMEA Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44(0)2070313161
[backstage-developer] 2008 BBC Innovation Labs
We're really pleased to announce the 2008 BBC Innovation Labs. This year sees some changes to the way the process works, but also widens the geographical area to include Wales and the West Midlands. The Innovation Labs will run in; Scotland North West England North East England Wales West Midlands The biggest change you'll see is that at the end of each lab, those companies who win commissions will know how much they are being commissioned for before they leave, within one week of the lab they'll have agreed milestones for delivery with their commissioner, and within two weeks the PO will be raised. We're really lucky this year to have some fantastic briefs; for the first time as well as reading about the them on this site and coming to the Launch Days ( http://open.bbc.co.uk/labs/2008_launch_days_1.php)- you can also watch a short video of each commissioner talking about their area of responsibility and what they want to get from labs this year. Take a look at the briefs now - http://open.bbc.co.uk/labs/2008_the_brief.php So what's next? The most important thing to do right now is to make sure you register and come along to the Launch Days - http://open.bbc.co.uk/labs/2008_launch_days_1.php. These one day events will make sure that you know exactly what's going on where, and will give you the edge you need to make sure your application is successful. If you have any questions about the process at all, or you want to chat through your idea then please feel free to contact us - http://open.bbc.co.uk/labs/contact_us.php m ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC5C3, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959)
Re: [backstage] What is to happen to Backstage?
And bad news for the 2,000 people who will be let go... 420 from factual television, and 470 will go from News. Multimedia will expand, and they are selling TVC. It all makes sense. Who needs at *television* centre when all you really want to do is to dive into the multimedia (digital) maelstrom and pay consultants (and Mr. J. Ross)? They should sell BBC White City. OOPS. They did that trick already. BBC White City was sold to Land Securities Trillium. http://www.landsecurities.com/press.asp?PageID=25MediaID=15InitialView=False Gordo P.S. Who said content is king? At 16:07 +0100 18/10/07, Brian Butterworth wrote: That's great news! On 18/10/2007, Matthew Cashmore mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No major news here Brian - business as normal. m On 18/10/07 14:09, Brian Butterworth mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just wondering what is to happen to http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ Backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/http://Backstage.bbc.co.uk as part of the Thompson plans? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7050440.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7050440.stm 'Future Media Technology Online, mobile, interactive, archives 120 - 130 Redundancies ' ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC5C3, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959) -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv www.ukfree.tv -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPhone Apple opens up iPhone to app developers
On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 16:41 +0100, Jason Cartwright wrote: Yeah, because perfect code is possible - and there is never a version 2.0 of any product. TeX was last updated in 2002 (although it is now at version 3.141592). Should you find a bug you will be handsomely rewarded with Donald Knuth's autograph (on a cheque that you will most likely frame [1]). - Richard [1] http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/abcde.html -- Richard Smedley, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Director, www.M6-IT.org M6-IT CIC+44 (0)779 456 07 14 Sustainable Third Sector IT solutions. PRINCE2[TM] Project Management Web services * Back-ups * Support * Training Certification * E-Mail M6-IT is a Community Interest Company, limited by guarantee. Registered in England Wales, Registration No: 6040154 11 St Marks Road, Stourbridge, West Midlands, DY9 7DT Northern Office: 4, Hollins Green, Bradwall, Cheshire, CW10 0LA. Welsh office/Swyddfa Gogledd Cymru: e-mail / e-bost - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Southern Office: Bristolcontact [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] What is to happen to Backstage?
I've never quite been able to work out the specifics of the deal (see Eyes *passim*, as they say), but Television Centre (and several other BBC buildings) passed back into BBC hands a few years after that deal, and the facilities management contract with Land Securities has ended. While it's good to see Backstage's future is secure, I'm hoping that my friends with BBC contracts (a rarity these days) can be similarly reassured. Some of them haven't heard anything solid so far. - martin On 10/18/07, Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And bad news for the 2,000 people who will be let go... 420 from factual television, and 470 will go from News. Multimedia will expand, and they are selling TVC. It all makes sense. Who needs at *television* centre when all you really want to do is to dive into the multimedia (digital) maelstrom and pay consultants (and Mr. J. Ross)? They should sell BBC White City. OOPS. They did that trick already. BBC White City was sold to Land Securities Trillium. http://www.landsecurities.com/press.asp?PageID=25MediaID=15InitialView=False Gordo P.S. Who said content is king? At 16:07 +0100 18/10/07, Brian Butterworth wrote: That's great news! On 18/10/2007, Matthew Cashmore mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No major news here Brian - business as normal. m On 18/10/07 14:09, Brian Butterworth mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just wondering what is to happen to http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ Backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/http://Backstage.bbc.co.uk as part of the Thompson plans? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7050440.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7050440.stm 'Future Media Technology Online, mobile, interactive, archives 120 - 130 Redundancies ' ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC5C3, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959) -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv www.ukfree.tv -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Now playing
Apologies for posting this to both lists, but it applies to both the masses on backstage and the developers on the developer list. I've coded a hopefully useful, if not idea stimulating web page. It is called Now Playing http://cgriley.com/nowplaying/ and shows you information about the artist currently being played on BBC Radio 1, BBC 1xtra, BBC Radio 2 and BBC 6 Music. It is based on some BBC data released at hack day, with Yahoo Pipes and JQuery thrown in. I made it because when I'm listening to the radio I like to know a bit more about the artist. Have I heard some of their tracks or albums before? If I've no idea who they are what have they done in the past? How much can I buy their albums for, what has been released? What is on their website, do they have a website? Which artists are they like? All those questions are answered by this new page. It is designed to update itself in real time with the current artist being played, and seems to work quite well. As always the best way to see what it does is to give it a go, and if you want more info about how it works, data sources, known issues etc. then there is an obligatory about page. http://cgriley.com/nowplaying/about.aspx I know I could have just hooked into a Last.fm page and updated it as the artist changed, but I wanted to do this because I can, you know ;o) As usual your comments are welcome, but only once you've read the about page (I don't like time wasters). Enjoy! Chris Riley http://cgriley.com - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] What is to happen to Backstage?
Chaps... This is nothing to do with backstage at all, can we please leave this topic for discussion in other places. m On 18/10/07 17:38, Martin Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never quite been able to work out the specifics of the deal (see Eyes passim, as they say), but Television Centre (and several other BBC buildings) passed back into BBC hands a few years after that deal, and the facilities management contract with Land Securities has ended. While it's good to see Backstage's future is secure, I'm hoping that my friends with BBC contracts (a rarity these days) can be similarly reassured. Some of them haven't heard anything solid so far. - martin On 10/18/07, Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And bad news for the 2,000 people who will be let go... 420 from factual television, and 470 will go from News. Multimedia will expand, and they are selling TVC. It all makes sense. Who needs at *television* centre when all you really want to do is to dive into the multimedia (digital) maelstrom and pay consultants (and Mr. J. Ross)? They should sell BBC White City. OOPS. They did that trick already. BBC White City was sold to Land Securities Trillium. http://www.landsecurities.com/press.asp?PageID=25MediaID=15InitialView=Fals e http://www.landsecurities.com/press.asp?PageID=25amp;MediaID=15amp;Initial View=False Gordo P.S. Who said content is king? At 16:07 +0100 18/10/07, Brian Butterworth wrote: That's great news! On 18/10/2007, Matthew Cashmore mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No major news here Brian - business as normal. m On 18/10/07 14:09, Brian Butterworth mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just wondering what is to happen to http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/ Backstage.bbc.co.uk http://Backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/http://Backstage.bbc.co.uk http://Backstage.bbc.co.uk http://Backstage.bbc.co.uk as part of the Thompson plans? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7050440.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7050440.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7050440.stm 'Future Media Technology Online, mobile, interactive, archives 120 - 130 Redundancies ' ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC5C3, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959) -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv http://www.ukfree.tv www.ukfree.tv http://www.ukfree.tv -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ ___ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media Technology, Research and Innovation BC5C3, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP T:020 8008 3959(02 83959) M:07711 913241(072 83959)
Re: [backstage] iPhone SDK news
On 18/10/2007, Simon Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally we might be able to do things propery! We've been working on a podcast browser for iPhone which is in alpha at the moment http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/podcasts/directory/iphone/ -- note: requires Safari to view, or an iphone/touch obviously! S It seems to work fine in firefox on windows, the only difference to Safari (windows version) is that the green home button is replaced by the word Home. Opera has a problem though, it hangs on loading when you try and select anything, get it working on Opera and you can claim (phone) platform neutrality: http://www.operamini.com/ ;-) Vijay.
[backstage] Pop!Tech Conference live stream
Pop!Tech is one of those conferences like TED which we would all love to go to but can never afford (4000 dollars). No Need its live on the web in Windows Media format (hopes he can get it working at home using xbmc like last time). http://poptech.com/live/ http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1592849 700k stream http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1592848 300k stream Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Wii News Channel
On 10/16/07, Barry Carlyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had heard that one of the student radio stations was building a flash player for their radio stream for the wii….. Cough http://www.playthree.net/2007/04/virgin-radio-available-on-ps3-and-wii.html Yes, April. //j
