Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script
Apparently my mail client is messing up my line endings. Apologies, please see http://pastebin.com/f281a6f41 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer bursts through user target
On 18/01/2008, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graeme Mulvaney wrote: It would be good if you could provide 'bookmarks' into some of the current affairs/magazine style programming - e.g. you could jump to a particular report in 'the culture show' or skip to the sudden death round of 'the weakest link', etc. Segmented content, huh? Yes, that would be nice... :-) It would be even better if the subtitle text was also available, then you could use a text-search system (ie, Google) to jump straight to the relevant content! S - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] A question about BBC-iPlayer_Setup.exe
Hi All, Can anyone help me with this please? Thank you very much Dan On 13/01/2008 13:01, Dogsbody was seen to type: Unlike the questions about the the iplayer itself I have a question regarding the exe that Windows users can use to download iplayer. I am trying to write a tool to monitor/filter web traffic and so I need to identify the media type of all files it see and unpack all archive files. I'm having difficulty with BBC-iPlayer_Setup.exe, I can identify it as a self-extracting Microsoft CAB file, but when I try to unpack it, it fails. I guess my questions are... - Is it a self-extracting CAB file? - If it is not a CAB file what is it please? - And, if possible, what tool was used to create it and package it up? Thank you :-) I'll go back to lurking now :-) Dan - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script
On 20/01/2008, Iain Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe we need a discussion on the pros and cons of the various OSS licenses. Recommend me one! Did you not see the sign next to the button you just pressed? -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script
On Jan 21, 2008 10:59 AM, Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 20/01/2008, Iain Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe we need a discussion on the pros and cons of the various OSS licenses. Recommend me one! Did you not see the sign next to the button you just pressed? I'm sorry? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script
On 21 Jan 2008, at 11:36, Iain Wallace wrote: Did you not see the sign next to the button you just pressed? I'm sorry? The one that says Don't push this button .cf Licencing discussions ad infinitum... Cheers f - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script
Iain At 12:05 + 21/1/08, Iain Wallace wrote: I'm finding this thread quite useful and interesting. Sorry if you don't. You could always just filter it out in your mail client. If I was objecting to the thread I would have used words like 'ad nauseam' rather than 'ad infinitum' - I was just suggesting a scenario for what Peter was saying regarding the button. Licencing threads do come up here quite frequently and are a passionate subject for some list members. When you first asked for the discussion I thought you were being tongue in cheek as we had a big round of discussions last month. Next time I will put a smiley or something similar. f - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script
At 12:05 + 21/1/08, Iain Wallace wrote: I'm finding this thread quite useful and interesting. Sorry if you don't. You could always just filter it out in your mail client. If I was objecting to the thread I would have used words like 'ad nauseam' rather than 'ad infinitum' - I was just suggesting a scenario for what Peter was saying regarding the button. Licencing threads do come up here quite frequently and are a passionate subject for some list members. When you first asked for the discussion I thought you were being tongue in cheek as we had a big round of discussions last month. Next time I will put a smiley or something similar. Ah, thought that might be it :P No, I've only been on the list a few weeks. Back to RTMP. I was looking at the documentation and some of the code for RTMP with a view to maybe porting it into this script. It's really quite nasty! I think it'll be a while before I'm bored enough to attempt that. Any extensions to this script from me are likely going to be calls to apps importing the rtmp.c written for Gnash. Iain - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script
On 21/01/2008, Fearghas McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The one that says Don't push this button .cf Licencing discussions ad infinitum... Cheers Maybe he pressed it to see what happens... Aren't License flame wars fun? ;p FWIW I personally prefer BSD\MIT style licenses as I consider them to be more free than the GPL in that they allow anyone to play with your code in any way they like without forcing your own choice of license on them. However I've already had that discussion on this list, and don't want to go there again. I still have the scorch marks. I also have issues with the restrictive nature of parts of GPLv3 (and I'm not alone in this), so if you're going to use a the GPL, I'd suggest GPL 2, if it's good enough for Linux, it's good enough for me. Linus outlines my complaints better than I can: http://www.news.com/2100-7344-6031504.html http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/07/linux_creator_c.html http://www.informationweek.com/management/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=198001445 Vijay.
Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script
On 21/01/2008, Iain Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any extensions to this script from me are likely going to be calls to apps importing the rtmp.c written for Gnash. Make sure you observe the Gnash license conditions /me ducks and heads for the coat stand -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script
On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 12:41:42PM +, vijay chopra wrote: FWIW I personally prefer BSD\MIT style licenses as I consider them to be more free than the GPL in that they allow anyone to play with your code in any way they like without forcing your own choice of license on them. Of course what you really mean is that you want to give people the freedom to restrict other peoples freedom, which seems a little contradictory. But yes, we've argued this before vijay. ;) -- Noah Slater http://bytesexual.org/ Creativity can be a social contribution, but only in so far as society is free to use the results. - R. Stallman - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Streaming iPlayer age guidance
The BBC has only a single binary policy about age restriction, which is the Watershed Policy... *Watershed policy* From 9pm the TV watershed helps parents protect children from unsuitable material. In all but exceptional circumstances, programmes before 9pm are suitable for general audiences including children. From 9pm they are progressively suitable only for adults. Because children's sensibilities vary as widely as those of adults, parents are expected to share responsibility in judging whether children should watch after 9pm. The BBC can be received in every household, but two-thirds of them have no children. Our public obligation is to provide services for all licence fee payers, as well as those with children *http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/policies/decency.shtml* On 18/01/2008, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/01/2008, Matthew Somerville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/metafiles/episode/b008s14v.xml - you just need the programme episode PIP. Thank you. Andy -- Computers are like air conditioners. Both stop working, if you open windows. -- Adam Heath - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv
Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script
The one that says Don't push this button .cf Licencing discussions ad infinitum... Cheers Maybe he pressed it to see what happens... Aren't License flame wars fun? ;p If this is a flame war then it's the most polite flame war I've ever seen! You guys can't have ever posted in videogame forums. No one has even had their sexual leanings questioned yet ;) It seems like the controversy around GPLv3 is centred around an anti-DRM clause, which is fine by me. GPLv3 will be included later today :) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script
On 21 Jan 2008, at 13:12, Iain Wallace wrote: If this is a flame war then it's the most polite flame war I've ever seen! You guys can't have ever posted in videogame forums. No one has even had their sexual leanings questioned yet ;) nah we are just being polite since you are new ;-) Normal service will resume after the watershed! [0] f [0] #insert smiley.h - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script
On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 01:34:14PM +, Fearghas McKay wrote: [0] #insert smiley.h You mean #include, surely? Jeez, such a n00b. ;) -- Noah Slater http://bytesexual.org/ Creativity can be a social contribution, but only in so far as society is free to use the results. - R. Stallman - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] RTMP stream URL resolving script
On Jan 21, 2008 1:49 PM, Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 01:34:14PM +, Fearghas McKay wrote: [0] #insert smiley.h You mean #include, surely? Jeez, such a n00b. ;) OK, that's much more familiar territory :D - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Transcript for Backstage Accessibility podcast
Hi All, I've finally got the transcript for the backstage podcast. Its currently lives here - http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2007/12/podcast_accessi_1.html I have also added the previous podcast to the main feed, so you should automatically get the podcast, if your subscribed to this feed - http://bbcbackstage.blip.tv/rss Enjoy and I'm sorry it took so long... Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC recruits Kazaa's Rose
On 21 Jan 2008, at 02:09, Christopher Woods wrote: I was going through the archives and saw that, which made me wonder - almost five months have passed, and aside from the Flash streaming - which did indeed make its debut just before the end of last year - has the acquisition of Mr. Rose actually brought about anything truly groundbreaking or productive for the Beeb? What with him joining the Digital Media team, and with his vast experience in content distribution... Certainly, the core strategy and architecture of the iPlayer doesn't seem to have changed (an albeit more streamlined Kontiki experience, but still with the same MSDRM and still transmitted via the same means) - I've certainly not seen any particular innovations past what's already there. Yes, Anthony has made an enormous difference to the iPlayer project and FMT in general. I obviously can't say too much, but as someone who was so frustrated with the iPlayer project almost a year ago that I tried to write my own interface, I'm much happier with the way things are now and the way they are going. Cheers Jonathan - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
