Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday
Ian, the gPhone has both GPS and a compass, I can think of loads of applications for that. But I'm worried now, Jemima Kiss has twittered So apparently G1 is a dog's dinner. I'll reserve judgement until I get my hands on one. PS: Loved the mixtape presentation on your website. 2008/9/22 Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] I still don't see why a non developer or non geek would want the google phone over windows mobile? Maybe its just me? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Sam Mbale *Sent:* 20 September 2008 11:52 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday same day as Germany Developer day, September 23rd -- Munich, Germanyhttp://code.google.com/intl/de/events/developerday/2008/home.html I have won a bet, drink up! On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I feel an early adoption coming on... http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2226543/android-uk-launch-set-tuesday http://news.google.co.uk/news?rlz=1B3GGGL_enGB288GB289tab=wnncl=1247938204hl=en -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday
T-Mobile Unveils the 'T-Mobile http://news.google.co.uk/news/url?sa=tct=uk/0-0fp=48d9e2f13b637dc5ei=ChfZSI3wHIGAQ6_jyMAGurl=http%3A//www.marketwatch.com/news/story/t-mobile-unveils-t-mobile-g1-google-first/story.aspx%3Fguid%3D%257BD8DEAE42-36D9-4787-B0DD-4812B8CA2698%257D%26dist%3Dhpprcid=1247938204usg=AFQjCNFhwjg0PncqLrYzr64ygIl0vA47Hg *G1http://news.google.co.uk/news/url?sa=tct=uk/0-0fp=48d9e2f13b637dc5ei=ChfZSI3wHIGAQ6_jyMAGurl=http%3A//www.marketwatch.com/news/story/t-mobile-unveils-t-mobile-g1-google-first/story.aspx%3Fguid%3D%257BD8DEAE42-36D9-4787-B0DD-4812B8CA2698%257D%26dist%3Dhpprcid=1247938204usg=AFQjCNFhwjg0PncqLrYzr64ygIl0vA47Hg *' with Google-the First Phone to http://news.google.co.uk/news/url?sa=tct=uk/0-0fp=48d9e2f13b637dc5ei=ChfZSI3wHIGAQ6_jyMAGurl=http%3A//www.marketwatch.com/news/story/t-mobile-unveils-t-mobile-g1-google-first/story.aspx%3Fguid%3D%257BD8DEAE42-36D9-4787-B0DD-4812B8CA2698%257D%26dist%3Dhpprcid=1247938204usg=AFQjCNFhwjg0PncqLrYzr64ygIl0vA47Hg *...http://news.google.co.uk/news/url?sa=tct=uk/0-0fp=48d9e2f13b637dc5ei=ChfZSI3wHIGAQ6_jyMAGurl=http%3A//www.marketwatch.com/news/story/t-mobile-unveils-t-mobile-g1-google-first/story.aspx%3Fguid%3D%257BD8DEAE42-36D9-4787-B0DD-4812B8CA2698%257D%26dist%3Dhpprcid=1247938204usg=AFQjCNFhwjg0PncqLrYzr64ygIl0vA47Hg * On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Ian, the gPhone has both GPS and a compass, I can think of loads of applications for that. But I'm worried now, Jemima Kiss has twittered So apparently G1 is a dog's dinner. I'll reserve judgement until I get my hands on one. PS: Loved the mixtape presentation on your website. 2008/9/22 Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] I still don't see why a non developer or non geek would want the google phone over windows mobile? Maybe its just me? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Sam Mbale *Sent:* 20 September 2008 11:52 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday same day as Germany Developer day, September 23rd -- Munich, Germanyhttp://code.google.com/intl/de/events/developerday/2008/home.html I have won a bet, drink up! On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel an early adoption coming on... http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2226543/android-uk-launch-set-tuesday http://news.google.co.uk/news?rlz=1B3GGGL_enGB288GB289tab=wnncl=1247938204hl=en -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe
Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday
good article http://valleywag.com/5053648/brin-and-page-show-up-late-wing-it-at-googlephone-launch - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday
Dave - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukh5jXjoQBY Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crossland Sent: 22 September 2008 19:16 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday 2008/9/22 Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I still don't see why a non developer or non geek would want the google phone over windows mobile? Maybe its just me? I'm totally ignorant, but I hadn't seen a WinMo do anything like the gPhone/iPhone's animated UI. (Apple doesn't even allow the public to see the API for its canvas, because iPhone apps are webapps, but Google has made Skia free software; Skia is the high performance canvas library that doesn't require a 3D graphics chip, that makes all the iPhone-style bouncy UI animation fly) Cheers, Dave - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Manchester Free Software Talk: Dave Crossland - Free as in Profit
This is why I prefer flash cameras. We shot Scripting enabled on Friday with two cameras and was able to hand over all the footage at the end of the day, 12gig in total. Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Dobson Sent: 22 September 2008 23:20 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Manchester Free Software Talk: Dave Crossland - Free as in Profit Brian Butterworth wrote: I'd quite like to come, but can't. I just love font internals*. Looking forward to the video, Dave. Just to follow this up, I have the video, I just need to convert it from DV raw to something people might want to download ie. not 1GB/min ish I am waiting for some hardware, and then I should have the video up. Good talk by the way Dave! Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday
2008/9/24 Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dave - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukh5jXjoQBY Out of the box? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday
Thanks Brian, I keep meaning to add to the presentation because the pacemaker is such a revolutionary device. GPS and Compass? are you sure? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 23 September 2008 08:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday Ian, the gPhone has both GPS and a compass, I can think of loads of applications for that. But I'm worried now, Jemima Kiss has twittered So apparently G1 is a dog's dinner. I'll reserve judgement until I get my hands on one. PS: Loved the mixtape presentation on your website. 2008/9/22 Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] I still don't see why a non developer or non geek would want the google phone over windows mobile? Maybe its just me? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Mbale Sent: 20 September 2008 11:52 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday same day as Germany Developer day, September 23rd -- Munich, Germany http://code.google.com/intl/de/events/developerday/2008/home.html I have won a bet, drink up! On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel an early adoption coming on... http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2226543/android-uk-launch-set-tuesday http://news.google.co.uk/news?rlz=1B3GGGL_enGB288GB289tab=wnncl=1247938204hl=en -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
RE: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday
From that article, It's just very exciting for me as a computer geek to have a phone I can play with and modify. See this is what I mean. Don't get me wrong for backstage and the community of developers, geeks, hackers, etc. Its going to be great to have a phone which is open enough to modify and change but for consumers what's the big deal? As Jim Tonge pointed out its all about marketing and google are not doing that. Anyway we'll find out real soon. I'm looking forward to dual booting my HTC phone real soon. Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Tonge Sent: 24 September 2008 00:54 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday good article http://valleywag.com/5053648/brin-and-page-show-up-late-wing-it-at-googlephone-launch - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday
Okay, I don't know how deep I'll dig my own grave now. Jemima makes difficult issues interesting which is very good and I like the one liners. As a developer some of her killer punches do come across as cruel. We do not have the luxury of time that others have. just my thoughts On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You dont read Jemima's work much, then? On 23/09/2008, Sam Mbale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bit late to the conversation, Jemima Kiss is a Journalist. G1 is about empowering individuals which in the long run makes centralised control irrelevant. Power to the people! On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Sam Mbale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: T-Mobile Unveils the 'T-Mobile http://news.google.co.uk/news/url?sa=tct=uk/0-0fp=48d9e2f13b637dc5ei=ChfZSI3wHIGAQ6_jyMAGurl=http%3A//www.marketwatch.com/news/story/t-mobile-unveils-t-mobile-g1-google-first/story.aspx%3Fguid%3D%257BD8DEAE42-36D9-4787-B0DD-4812B8CA2698%257D%26dist%3Dhpprcid=1247938204usg=AFQjCNFhwjg0PncqLrYzr64ygIl0vA47Hg *G1 http://news.google.co.uk/news/url?sa=tct=uk/0-0fp=48d9e2f13b637dc5ei=ChfZSI3wHIGAQ6_jyMAGurl=http%3A//www.marketwatch.com/news/story/t-mobile-unveils-t-mobile-g1-google-first/story.aspx%3Fguid%3D%257BD8DEAE42-36D9-4787-B0DD-4812B8CA2698%257D%26dist%3Dhpprcid=1247938204usg=AFQjCNFhwjg0PncqLrYzr64ygIl0vA47Hg *' with Google-the First Phone to http://news.google.co.uk/news/url?sa=tct=uk/0-0fp=48d9e2f13b637dc5ei=ChfZSI3wHIGAQ6_jyMAGurl=http%3A//www.marketwatch.com/news/story/t-mobile-unveils-t-mobile-g1-google-first/story.aspx%3Fguid%3D%257BD8DEAE42-36D9-4787-B0DD-4812B8CA2698%257D%26dist%3Dhpprcid=1247938204usg=AFQjCNFhwjg0PncqLrYzr64ygIl0vA47Hg *... http://news.google.co.uk/news/url?sa=tct=uk/0-0fp=48d9e2f13b637dc5ei=ChfZSI3wHIGAQ6_jyMAGurl=http%3A//www.marketwatch.com/news/story/t-mobile-unveils-t-mobile-g1-google-first/story.aspx%3Fguid%3D%257BD8DEAE42-36D9-4787-B0DD-4812B8CA2698%257D%26dist%3Dhpprcid=1247938204usg=AFQjCNFhwjg0PncqLrYzr64ygIl0vA47Hg * On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Ian, the gPhone has both GPS and a compass, I can think of loads of applications for that. But I'm worried now, Jemima Kiss has twittered So apparently G1 is a dog's dinner. I'll reserve judgement until I get my hands on one. PS: Loved the mixtape presentation on your website. 2008/9/22 Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] I still don't see why a non developer or non geek would want the google phone over windows mobile? Maybe its just me? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Sam Mbale *Sent:* 20 September 2008 11:52 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday same day as Germany Developer day, September 23rd -- Munich, Germany http://code.google.com/intl/de/events/developerday/2008/home.html I have won a bet, drink up! On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel an early adoption coming on... http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2226543/android-uk-launch-set-tuesday http://news.google.co.uk/news?rlz=1B3GGGL_enGB288GB289tab=wnncl=1247938204hl=en -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe -- Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe
RE: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday
Touchflo 3D - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbzVuhzdCFkfeature=related TouchWiz UI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95Ky6nwR8ms Shall I carry on? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crossland Sent: 24 September 2008 01:32 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday 2008/9/24 Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dave - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukh5jXjoQBY Out of the box? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday
I'm not sure this is in context, just couldn't resist sharing.. The problem is not simply that IT people are disgruntled. The problem is that geeks in general are one culture and suits are a different culture. They're like oil and water. They have completely different ideas about what should be going on. The whole situation is loaded with lack of respect and lack of trust on both sides. ... I don't think techies ever doubted they had the keys to car. Now the suits are starting to realize it. Back in the '90s, I talked to techs who were fully aware of the Y2K problem, but they were content to sit back and wait for it to all go to hell. Watching a suit go down in flames is entertainment for geeks. -- Author Bill Pfleginghttp://www.infoworld.com/article/08/09/22/39FE-IT-management-chasm_1.html, quoted in an InfoWorld article warning that underappreciated, overburdened IT workers with broad network privileges represent a ticking time bomb. *Jump to source*http://blogs.siliconvalley.com/gmsv/2008/09/quoted-887.html On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:49 AM, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Touchflo 3D - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbzVuhzdCFkfeature=related TouchWiz UI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95Ky6nwR8ms Shall I carry on? Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crossland Sent: 24 September 2008 01:32 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday 2008/9/24 Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dave - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukh5jXjoQBY Out of the box? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Sam Mbale Mpelembe Network http://www.mpelembe.net Follow me on http://twitter.com/mpelembe
Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday
2008/9/24 Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Touchflo 3D - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbzVuhzdCFkfeature=related TouchWiz UI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95Ky6nwR8ms Shall I carry on? Okay, I agree that for the UI it seems Microsoft has similar features to Apple and Google. I wonder how much proprietary software is on the G1? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
