Re: [backstage] TV-Anytime files on Backstage and old Web API for TV/Radio data closing down
Hi, Just to note that we'll be switching off the old API to schedule data in the next day or so. It now has no schedule data in it, though there seem to be quite a few clients that won't take no results for an answer... Cheers, Andrew BBC RD On 15/09/2010 11:17, Andrew McParland wrote: Hi, Just to note that we will not be putting any new TV-Anytime files on Backstage - several radio stations are already completely missing from the data. We'll leave the existing files there for the moment. The old API will be closed down soon too. Please use /programmes. Andrew BBC RD On 26/08/2010 10:50, Andrew McParland wrote: Hi, We are starting to lose the source of data we are using for the TV-Anytime files on Backstage: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/ and the old web API for TV/Radio data: http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/ This is quite an old system that we haven't really worked on since we first launched it 4+ years ago apart from a few minor patches. Since /programmes can provide much more comprehensive data and is properly supported, we do not intend to fix this problem and so will stop providing new files and remove access to the old web API in the near future. I've mentioned before that developers wanting access to programme data should now use /programmes instead. However, there are still quite a few hits on the old web API, so if you are a developer using it please update your software to use /programmes. Cheers, Andrew BBC RD - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] TV-Anytime files on Backstage and old Web API for TV/Radio data closing down
Hi, Just to note that we will not be putting any new TV-Anytime files on Backstage - several radio stations are already completely missing from the data. We'll leave the existing files there for the moment. The old API will be closed down soon too. Please use /programmes. Andrew BBC RD On 26/08/2010 10:50, Andrew McParland wrote: Hi, We are starting to lose the source of data we are using for the TV-Anytime files on Backstage: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/ and the old web API for TV/Radio data: http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/ This is quite an old system that we haven't really worked on since we first launched it 4+ years ago apart from a few minor patches. Since /programmes can provide much more comprehensive data and is properly supported, we do not intend to fix this problem and so will stop providing new files and remove access to the old web API in the near future. I've mentioned before that developers wanting access to programme data should now use /programmes instead. However, there are still quite a few hits on the old web API, so if you are a developer using it please update your software to use /programmes. Cheers, Andrew BBC RD - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] TV-Anytime files on Backstage and old Web API for TV/Radio data closing down
Hi, We are starting to lose the source of data we are using for the TV-Anytime files on Backstage: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/ and the old web API for TV/Radio data: http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/ This is quite an old system that we haven't really worked on since we first launched it 4+ years ago apart from a few minor patches. Since /programmes can provide much more comprehensive data and is properly supported, we do not intend to fix this problem and so will stop providing new files and remove access to the old web API in the near future. I've mentioned before that developers wanting access to programme data should now use /programmes instead. However, there are still quite a few hits on the old web API, so if you are a developer using it please update your software to use /programmes. Cheers, Andrew BBC RD - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] TV-Anytime files on Backstage and old Web API for TV/Radio data closing down
Hi Mo, On 26/08/2010 11:01, Mo McRoberts wrote: Hi Andrew, On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:50, Andrew McParland andrew.mcparl...@rd.bbc.co.uk wrote: We are starting to lose the source of data we are using for the TV-Anytime files on Backstage: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/ Is there any chance of the archive being kept around even if it's not going to be updated? There's not a huge amount of TVA XML out there in the wild, so it makes for quite a handy learning resource (for its sins). Don't see why not. Lots of people do seemed to have used those files for learning about TVA :-) out of interest, would I be right in thinking the chances of getting (real, not the pretend ones derived from sid+eid) crids in /programmes data any time in the near future would be best described as 'hazy'? :) It would be great if they were in there, but I don't know if it's on the roadmap for /programmes. Cheers! M. Cheers, Andrew BBC RD - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Re: BBC Experimental Website Down?
Hi, Apologies - the move and unexpected connectivity loss did take the API out for a while. Should be back now for you? I can't access it internally, but hey, we have our own connectivity issues :-) I do suggest people use /programmes instead though. Our experimental service won't last forever. Cheers, Andrew BBC RD On 26/02/2010 18:17, Mo McRoberts wrote: On 26-Feb-2010, at 18:05, Tim Coysh wrote: Sorry for bringing up a fairly old topic. The website is again down, though it is temporary. Is there a reason for this? Or is just unexpected downtime? My website relies heavily on this information. Again, Sorry for the hastle! I would place a wild guess that it’s probably being moved from one bit of England to another ;) (Anybody feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, it really was a wild, if slightly educated, guess!) M. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] TV Feeds
Adam, Server kicked! Brian is right that moving forward getting data from /programmes is probably a better idea as this is a supported BBC service rather than our temporary (ahem), experimental TV-Anytime file service and API. Internally we're looking at using /programmes, and the data source it is based on, for our research work so that we wouldn't have to maintain the backstage files and keep the API going as a separate system. Is there anything that you (or others) get from the TV-Anytime files or API that you don't get at the moment from /programmes and would like to see continue in some form? Cheers, Andrew BBC Research Brian Butterworth wrote: Adam, I think that the programmes feeds are now kept up-to-date instead: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/programmes/schedules/london/2008/07/09.xml etc... 2008/7/22 Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Could someone give the TV feeds server a kick as i've just noticed that there hasn't been an update of TV Anytime feeds since 18-Jul-2008 10:08:27 and my site has run out of listings info :-( Thanks Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC Backstage - DataSource
Hi Darren, The TV-Anytime and Web API data is sourced from BDS out of the SID scheduling system. Cheers, Andrew BBC Research On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 05:09:48PM -, Darren Kenny wrote: Hi Chaps, A quick question for those in the know. Where does the information from BBC Backstage come from exactly? So you have the programme name, channel, duration, genre etc etc. Does this information come from BDS (Broadcast Data Services) that is owned by BBC Broadcast? Or is it maintained from another data source? If so, what is this data source? Regards, Darren Kenny Software Engineer Tui Interactive Media. 47 Greek Street, London. W1D 4EE Tel: +44(0)20 7734 7757 Fax: +44(0)87 0458 2651 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing
Hi Terry, Please contact me off the list and we'll have a chat. As I mentioned, I only have access to a few extra years of data. Andrew BBC Research and Innovation On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 12:22:50AM +0800, Flynn, Terry wrote: Andrew, If you have data going back prior to June 22 2005, how could one obtain a copy? One of my uses of the TVAnyTime data is to start building an historical database that can be searched. I know there are various sites that offer this data, but there search capabilities are limited and I'm not sure of the quality/completeness of the data itself - it varies from site to site. Terry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew McParland Sent: Wednesday, 18 July, 2007 19:38 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing The TV-Anytime files on backstage are working again: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/ As some changes are still planned for backstage we'll keep the address below working in parallel as well As for a longer term archive of listings info, in my area we probably have a few years extra data whilst we were working on the TV-Anytime standard but I'm not sure there's another archive inside the BBC that can be made available... If anyone has one please pipe up :-) Andrew BBC Research ad Innovation On Sat, Jul 07, 2007 at 02:57:31PM +0100, Andrew McParland wrote: Sorry, we've been having a few problems. For the moment you can find a more up to date set of TV-Anytime schedule data files at: http://72.249.74.119/tv-anytime/ Due to this being a temporary measure the address may change, and the files may not be updated as regularly as we would like, but this should keep you going for a bit. We are working towards a better solution and, for the moment at least, we do intend to keep the files of data coming. We'll keep you informed as any changes happen. Andrew BBC Research and Innovation On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 06:03:37PM +0800, Flynn, Terry wrote: Mario, Thanks, I know about the API but prefer the files if their going to be maintained... its been a couple of weeks now, so suppose I better accept the change :( I'm an old, old UNIX programmer and my tools of choice are C and shell script - have a high level of inertia with these new java and perl thingies... Worked out how to make the API calls with wget, so just a matter of loading my little database - simple update...Thanks again for the suggestion... Terry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Menti Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 14:19 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing On 7/5/07, Flynn, Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if I missed any announcement - will Backstage be continuing the TV and Radio schedules in TVAnyTime XML format? Last update was June 21... As screen scraping the web site is illegal, this is the only option available to many of us to get BBC schedules for whatever purpose... Terry I don't know about the plans for the TV-Anytime files, but the best way to get BBC schedule information is probably through the BBC Web API: http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/index.html The API can give you query results in both TV-Anytime or a slightly simpler XML format. HTH, Mario. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing
The TV-Anytime files on backstage are working again: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/ As some changes are still planned for backstage we'll keep the address below working in parallel as well As for a longer term archive of listings info, in my area we probably have a few years extra data whilst we were working on the TV-Anytime standard but I'm not sure there's another archive inside the BBC that can be made available... If anyone has one please pipe up :-) Andrew BBC Research ad Innovation On Sat, Jul 07, 2007 at 02:57:31PM +0100, Andrew McParland wrote: Sorry, we've been having a few problems. For the moment you can find a more up to date set of TV-Anytime schedule data files at: http://72.249.74.119/tv-anytime/ Due to this being a temporary measure the address may change, and the files may not be updated as regularly as we would like, but this should keep you going for a bit. We are working towards a better solution and, for the moment at least, we do intend to keep the files of data coming. We'll keep you informed as any changes happen. Andrew BBC Research and Innovation On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 06:03:37PM +0800, Flynn, Terry wrote: Mario, Thanks, I know about the API but prefer the files if their going to be maintained... its been a couple of weeks now, so suppose I better accept the change :( I'm an old, old UNIX programmer and my tools of choice are C and shell script - have a high level of inertia with these new java and perl thingies... Worked out how to make the API calls with wget, so just a matter of loading my little database - simple update...Thanks again for the suggestion... Terry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Menti Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 14:19 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing On 7/5/07, Flynn, Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if I missed any announcement - will Backstage be continuing the TV and Radio schedules in TVAnyTime XML format? Last update was June 21... As screen scraping the web site is illegal, this is the only option available to many of us to get BBC schedules for whatever purpose... Terry I don't know about the plans for the TV-Anytime files, but the best way to get BBC schedule information is probably through the BBC Web API: http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/index.html The API can give you query results in both TV-Anytime or a slightly simpler XML format. HTH, Mario. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] No TV-Anytime Data today
We do our best :-) We're investigating the problem (we've uploaded the data, but it hasn't been published to the website yet). Andrew BBC Research On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 11:08:44AM +0100, Adam Leach wrote: Nah, its not that bad. The service has worked perfectly for ages, but the server must be having issues at the moment. Phil Winstanley wrote: Perhaps we should rename it TV-Sometimes ? :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Leach Sent: 22 June 2007 10:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] No TV-Anytime Data today Hi, There is no TV Anytime data today :-( Could someone give the server a kick. Thanks Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- received to: andyb.com Message ID : o7c6774f383dc45ad91d15557999db181.pro Sender ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Msg Size : 1k This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the originator of the message. This footer also confirms that this email message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses, though it is not guaranteed virus free. Original Recipient: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Original Sender : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original Send Date: 22/06/2007 - 10:36:53 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] TV Anytime Data
Thanks Adam, Rogue cron processes caused chaos - now fixed. Andrew BBC Research On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 08:03:29AM +0100, Adam Leach wrote: Hi, The TV Anytime data for today only appears to have tv information for BBC World Service, BBC Radio 1 BBC Radio2. The file is only 163k, whilst the file is normally 825k. Could you investigate. http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/ http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/20070620.tar.gz Thanks Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] TV-Anytime Feeds
Hi, Thanks for reporting this. We had some problems with our central fileserver machine over the weekend, so it's taking time to get everything back working again. The latest file should be up there reasonably soon. Andrew BBC Research On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 12:20:41PM +0100, Adam Leach wrote: Hiya, Over the weekend something seems to have gone wrong with the TV Anytime feeds as all the data files are extremely small and contain no program info. Could someone have a look and give the server a kick Thanks Adam For example more 20070521BBCOne_* :: 20070521BBCOne_cr.xml :: ?xml version='1.0' encoding='ISO-8859-9'? ContentReferencingTable xmlns='urn:tva:ContentReferencing:2005' xmlns:xsi='http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance' version='1'/ :: 20070521BBCOne_pi.xml :: ?xml version='1.0' encoding='ISO-8859-9'? TVAMain xmlns='urn:tva:metadata:2005' xmlns:mpeg7='urn:tva:mpeg7:2005' xmlns:xsi='http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance' xml:lang='en' !--This data is strictly for non-commercial use only. See http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/terms_of_use.html for details of the t erms and conditions.-- ProgramDescription ProgramInformationTable/ /ProgramDescription /TVAMain :: 20070521BBCOne_pl.xml :: ?xml version='1.0' encoding='ISO-8859-9'? TVAMain xmlns='urn:tva:metadata:2005' xmlns:mpeg7='urn:tva:mpeg7:2005' xmlns:xsi='http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance' xml:lang='en' !--This data is strictly for non-commercial use only. See http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/terms_of_use.html for details of the t erms and conditions.-- ProgramDescription ProgramLocationTable/ /ProgramDescription /TVAMain - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] TVA Feeds
Hi Dave, Thanks for the prompt - we had started prodding, but that just made things worse! I'll see if we can get the files back up soon. The Web API to the schedule data is still working fine though. Andrew BBC Research On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 12:51:56PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: The feeds at http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/ seem to stop on the 28th April. Any chance that someone could prod whatever needs prodding? Cheers, Dave... - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] TVA Feeds
I've put up a file which has +/-7 days of TV-Anytime data as a temporary fix - will update with similar files until we've fixed the problem. Andrew BBC Research On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 04:25:48PM +0100, Andrew McParland wrote: Hi Dave, Thanks for the prompt - we had started prodding, but that just made things worse! I'll see if we can get the files back up soon. The Web API to the schedule data is still working fine though. Andrew BBC Research On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 12:51:56PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: The feeds at http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/ seem to stop on the 28th April. Any chance that someone could prod whatever needs prodding? Cheers, Dave... - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Web API to schedule data is down
The Web API is back up, but we're experiencing a surge in demand that needs investigating. Andrew BBC Research On Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 07:15:55PM +0100, Andrew McParland wrote: Hi, The Web API to the BBC schedule data is down at the moment. It probably won't be fixed until tomorrow. Sorry! Andrew BBC Research - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Web API to schedule data is down
Hi, The Web API to the BBC schedule data is down at the moment. It probably won't be fixed until tomorrow. Sorry! Andrew BBC Research - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC site statistics - actually subtitling
For more info on this live subtitling system, have a look at this paper: http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp065.shtml The live re-speaking subtitling system was developed at BBC Research ( Development) down at Kingswood Warren. Cheers, Andrew BBC Research On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 06:25:49PM +0100, Brendan Quinn wrote: [just saw jase's post, but dammit I've typed this out now, so I'm posting!] Red Bee Media (née BBC Broadcast) does all our subtitling. I was having a beer with someone who used to work in their subtitling area the other day, and got an interesting explanation of how it works. They actually do use voice recognition systems, but the systems are trained to recognise only one voice reliably, so the subtitlers spend months and months in front of the computer saying strange words until the system is trained to their voice. Then they take short shifts listening to the live broadcast and repeating any voices they hear into the system, which then magically converts their speech into text. They can pre-load the system with the types of words they are likely to hear given the type of show, but with some shows the subject range can be so diverse that they have to leave the domain filter wide open and thus have less accuracy on word matching. Pre-recorded subtitling works differently, obviously -- they can take time to pause the playout and get it right. Most of these subtitlers are ex-courtroom steganographers. There are a few case studies etc here: http://www.redbeemedia.com/access/subtitling.shtml Someone from RBM might like to chip in here with more explanations, in the spirit of information sharing... Of course, Other Subtitling Providers Are Available (er... I think?!) Brendan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 26 March 2007 17:53 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC site statistics Here's a thought regarding subtitling - I know that manual subtitling or on-the-fly subtitling of live programmes has come along leaps and bounds, with voice recognition technology (which sometimes kicks up amusing misunderstandings, but seems to work very well) - how long do you think it'll be before it's all fully automatic, with the software performing voice recognition on the actual soundtrack in realtime? After seeing the lip reading segment on the last Click, it got me thinking... Who does the Beeb's subs now? -Original Message- From: Jason Cartwright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 March 2007 17:41 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC site statistics The annual report designers like big numbers too.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/pdf/review_report_r esearch/bb cannualreport.pdf Lots of boxes saying interesting things like: 56% of children in Great Britain aged 7-15 accessed bbc.co.uk/CBBC in December 2005 91.6% of programming on BBC One was subtitled in 2005/2006 etc etc J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 26 March 2007 17:26 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC site statistics Something I noticed earlier today - the BBC News pages show how many pages have been served in the past minute, and that cycles round with other facts about the site... When I was looking earlier this morning (around middayish) it showed over 73,000 pages served THAT MINUTE - that's insane! Right now it's saying 82,357 people are reading stories on the site right now. ! Sometimes I forget just how massive the audience is for the beebnews pages... -Original Message- From: Richard Lockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 March 2007 11:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC site statistics I've always found that the more technical or geeky a site is, the higher %age of non-IE users you'll find. For a consumer website - IE all the way. Which goes to prove my point that real people use IE, geeks use Firefox. :-) Yesterday's stats from a (very much consumer-orientated) site that I manage: IE (total) 87.3% made up of: IE 5.5 - 0.1% IE 6 - 40.1% IE 7 - 47.1% Safari - 0.8% Opera - 0.6% FF (all flavours) - 11.3% Not a single hit from anything else. Cheers, R. On 3/26/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for the record, I have a UK-focused site, so I have these figures for March 2007: www.ukfree.tv Internet explorer is 66% of all traffic. of which 7.0 52% (34.63% of total); 6.0 47% (31.4% of total), 5.0 (0.8% of total) (Firefox is 28.78% of total, Opera 1% of total) On the OS front, I get Windows NT/XP/Vista: 88%,
Re: [backstage] World Service Schedule...Missing
Hi Keith, I can see that the World Service page is empty from Friday and the World Service people are aware, but our API [1] seems fine to me, e.g. for Saturday [2]. Did you have a specific problem? Andrew BBC Research [1] http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/ [2] http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/api/query.pl?method=bbc.schedule.getProgrammeschannel_id=BBCWrldstart=2007-03-17T09:45:00Zend=2007-03-17T23:59:59Zlimit=100detail=schedule On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 03:15:49PM +0800, Keith wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/schedules/internet/wsradio_weekly.shtml Looks like there's a bit of a problem with the schedule data from Friday onwards. The API would appear to be similarly affected. Keith Living under the Jackboot Australia is merely an island of Antarctica, and of no further significance - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC Web API struggling with the snow
Yeah, sorry, we're out with the shovels now. Seems we've now cleared most of the snow so your way should be clear, but there may be more heavy falls later... Cheers, Andrew BBC Research On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:05:35AM +, Mario Menti wrote: Seems the London snow has taken down parts of the Web API: bbc.schedule.getProgrammes ( http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/bbc.schedule.getProgrammes.html) seems to return Error, Code 152, No matches found for any query.. Cheers, Mario. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Web API issue with BBC Parliament
Hi Mario, Thanks for reporting this. It was a different internal problem to the Radio 4 issue you reported and has now been fixed. Cheers, Andrew BBC Research On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 09:14:25AM +, Mario Menti wrote: Looks like we have the same issue I reported for Radio 4 a few weeks ago, this time with BBC Parliament: http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/api/query.pl?method=bbc.schedule.getProgrammesformat=simpledetail=schedulechannel_id=BBCParl ... has been returning Error: Code 152 No matches found for the last couple of days at least. Cheers, Mario. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Web API issue with Radio Four?
Hi Pete, Indeed. Is there any sign of this service moving from prototype/beta to something more/less? Good question. I've talked to a few people a month or so ago about a properly supported public facing API to our schedule data. The summary is that there is a desire to do it, but there is no definite timescale (yet). On the particular issue of streams it fascinates me that there seem to be so many - I presume the feeds listed by the API are somehow different from the main site feeds (Radio 1 has been down for quite a while now). This is easier. The API was set up a while ago and we entered the streams as they stood at the time. Due to us mainly using the data and multicast streams, we haven't tracked the changes in the unicast streams. Sorry. So do let us know when you find things going wrong, we're not always aware of them. When I get a chance I'll update the streams. Cheers, Andrew BBC Research On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 02:46:27PM -, Pete Cole wrote: Hi Andrew, This is the fun with experimental prototypes, eh? On the particular issue of streams it fascinates me that there seem to be so many - I presume the feeds listed by the API are somehow different from the main site feeds (Radio 1 has been down for quite a while now). Pete. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew McParland Sent: 15 November 2006 10:44 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Web API issue with Radio Four? Hi Pete, You're right, the problem with the API (and backstage TV-Anytime files) missing certain days of Radio 4 has now been fixed. Thanks for the report on the streams, there does seem to be a problem - I'll investigate. This is the fun with experimental prototypes, eh? Andrew BBC Research On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 02:49:52PM -, Pete Cole wrote: Hi, This (Radio Four listing) problem seems to have gone away, but some of the real audio streams listed by the API don't seem to work (they give the ever helpful 'General Error'). I haven't checked 'em all, but radio 1,2,3 and 4 seem 'dead' but 5 live is OK. Pete Cole. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew McParland Sent: 14 November 2006 10:03 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Web API issue with Radio Four? Hi Mario, Thanks for reporting this. I'll investigate further. Andrew BBC Research On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 07:15:29PM +, Mario Menti wrote: Hi - there seems to be a problem with the Web API and Radio Four data at the moment: Try http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/bbc.schedule.getProgrammes .h tmland select Radio Four - I get Code 152, no matches found. Other radio and TV channels seem to be OK. Probably just temorary, but thought I'd mention it anyway.. Cheers, Mario. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Web API issue with Radio Four?
Hi Pete, You're right, the problem with the API (and backstage TV-Anytime files) missing certain days of Radio 4 has now been fixed. Thanks for the report on the streams, there does seem to be a problem - I'll investigate. This is the fun with experimental prototypes, eh? Andrew BBC Research On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 02:49:52PM -, Pete Cole wrote: Hi, This (Radio Four listing) problem seems to have gone away, but some of the real audio streams listed by the API don't seem to work (they give the ever helpful 'General Error'). I haven't checked 'em all, but radio 1,2,3 and 4 seem 'dead' but 5 live is OK. Pete Cole. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew McParland Sent: 14 November 2006 10:03 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Web API issue with Radio Four? Hi Mario, Thanks for reporting this. I'll investigate further. Andrew BBC Research On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 07:15:29PM +, Mario Menti wrote: Hi - there seems to be a problem with the Web API and Radio Four data at the moment: Try http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/bbc.schedule.getProgrammes.h tmland select Radio Four - I get Code 152, no matches found. Other radio and TV channels seem to be OK. Probably just temorary, but thought I'd mention it anyway.. Cheers, Mario. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Web API issue with Radio Four?
Hi Mario, Thanks for reporting this. I'll investigate further. Andrew BBC Research On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 07:15:29PM +, Mario Menti wrote: Hi - there seems to be a problem with the Web API and Radio Four data at the moment: Try http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/bbc.schedule.getProgrammes.htmland select Radio Four - I get Code 152, no matches found. Other radio and TV channels seem to be OK. Probably just temorary, but thought I'd mention it anyway.. Cheers, Mario. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC Web TV Anytime API
Hi Lee, You've found a difference in the date ranges being served in the simple and TV-Anytime versions. I've identified the fix, but it'll take a while for it to be applied to the external server. Thanks for reporting it! Andrew Andrew McParland BBC Research On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 08:31:41AM +0100, Lee Goddard wrote: I'm using the BBC Web API http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/ to get programme info for a prototype of the Radio Four homepage. I'm having problems getting TV Anytime data for some requests: the first URI below fails, the second returns data as expected: http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/api/query.pl?method=bbc.programme.getInfoprogramme_id=crid://bbc.co.uk/952132253format=tvanytime http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/api/query.pl?method=bbc.programme.getInfoprogramme_id=crid://bbc.co.uk/952132253 The only difference is that the first request is for TV Anytime data, the second for simple. Any ideas would be appreciated lee -- Lee Goddard Independent Contractor, Software Development/Analysis BBC Radio Music Interactive * Room 718 | Henry Wood Hs | Regents St | London W1 1AA | UK * 020 776 50849 * lee(at)server-sidesystems.ltd.uk mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] World Service Schedules
Hi Heith, Just in case you hadn't seen it, and not wanting to curtail your coding, but we have a Yahoo widget as one of the example uses of the API - to be found at: http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/examples/widget/doc.html Cheers, Andrew Andrew McParland BBC Research On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 09:52:24AM +0800, Keith wrote: ah, perfect! Just what 'm after, thanks. I think 'm going to have a crack at doing it as a Yahoo Widget first, if that's successful I might look at making a better weekly schedule. Cheers, Keith Living under the Jackboot Australia is merely an island of Antarctica, and of no further significance - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Problem with the TV/Radio data
Hi, There seems to be a problem with the TV-Anytime data on backstage and the data that is feeding the Web API - no data for several of the TV channels and no real data after 4th Sept. I will investigate! The last complete file is: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/20060826.tar.gz Andrew Andrew McParland Lead Technologist, Technology Group BBC New Media Technology Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, KT20 6NP, UK - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Feeds APIs page down again
Thanks for reporting this - it's being looked into. Andrew On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 11:57:45AM +0100, Michael Pritchard wrote: The feeds and APIs page seems to be broke again ( i think it was broke ages ago) : http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/data/Data -- -- Michael Pritchard Web :: http://www.blueghost.co.uk GMail:: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Feeds APIs page down again - fixed
Fixed. Andrew On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 12:17:43PM +0100, Oliver Jackson wrote: On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 04:19:01PM +0100, Gordon Joly wrote: At 11:57 +0100 3/8/06, Michael Pritchard wrote: The feeds and APIs page seems to be broke again ( i think it was broke ages ago) : http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/data/Datahttp://backstage.bbc.co.uk/data/Data Looks very blank to me as well Gordo Still broken. Olly -- http://ollyjackson.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Feeds APIs page down again - fixed
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 01:17:54PM +0100, Mario Menti wrote: Since we're talking about that page, I think a link to http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/ would be in order? Cheers, Mario. Yes. And when someone with access gets a chance, it will :-) Andrew - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Web API down?
On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 02:43:16PM +0100, Josh at GoUK.com wrote: I can reach it Can anyone else see http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/index.html ? Looks fine from the inside, but we're still looking... Andrew Andrew McParland Lead Technologist, Technology Group BBC New Media Technology Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, KT20 6NP, UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kim Plowright Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 2:08 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Web API down? I'm seeing it internally - can anyone confirm it's dead outside the firewall? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Menti Sent: 17 July 2006 14:00 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Web API down? The server hosting the BBC Web API ( http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/index.html) seems to be unreachable.. at least from where I am. Anyone else can get to it, or is it currently down? Cheers, Mario. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Today's TV-Anytime tar is broken
Sorry, it's up there now. Don't know if this is related to the problems earlier this week yet. Will keep an eye on it. Cheers, Andrew On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 09:47:54AM +, Adam Leach wrote: Hi, This feed has stopped working again. Could you have a look at it please. Thanks Adam Quoting Murray Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: looks like today's TV-Anytime tar file (20060306.tar.gz at http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/[1]) is broken - could someone fix and replace it? consider a ticket opened, and people on the case. eta for fix : probably tomorrow. apologies. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html[2]. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/[3] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Video articles feed (Was: TV-Anytime regional opt-out files)
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 04:41:11PM +0100, Graeme Mulvaney wrote: It would be great if you could just chop up the regional programme streams into smaller chunks - actually you could probably do the same thing with magazine shows such as working lunch and watchdog, etc. The regional programme splitting is a nice idea - hadn't thought of that. Here at BBC RD we have been showing examples of segmenting stored TV and Radio programmes (Newsnight, Today, A Picture of Britain, Walking with Beasts, Football matches, etc). We've been playing with simple chapterized versions, but also alternative paths through the content, e.g. highlights or genre-based selections. We've also looked at joining up separate programmes, so you can watch _all_ the Vicky Pollard sketches, should you so wish. This is all supported by the segmentation features of the TV-Anytime metadata specifications. On the audio front, a guy from RD (Chris Newell) has drafted a chapter proposal for ID3 tags so that you could have segmented MP3 files, similar to Apple's Chapter Support for AAC but a bit more extensive. It's ideal for audio books, magazine-style programmes or CDs that are a continuous piece: http://www.id3.org/develop.html (see ID3 work in progress) He's also written a simple tool in Java to segment audio content and insert the tags: http://id3v2-chap-tool.sourceforge.net/ If anyone is interested in doing something in this area, player support would be useful and ideas for user interfaces to the content would be useful too. More tools would encourage people to provide suitably segmented content... Andrew On 10/27/05, Dogsbody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got sky, and sometimes watch different regional news programmes or versions of the politics show - some of the regional news programmes are excellent, but as they're all simulcast I tend to miss out on stuff. Would it be feasible to have a channel that recycled features from these programmes, linking them with national bulletins ? News 24 now has a programme called News 24 Today at 7pm which is hourlong, and apparently takes the best stuff from the One, the Six, Breakfast, BBC World and the regional news rooms - not quite what you were after I suppose, but near perhaps? This sounds like an fantastic idea! Kinda like a podcast [1] for video with just the articles from programmes instead of the whole program. You almost do this now with the news videos on the site but currently the only way to get to it is via the website. Please add this to the list of something we (I) would like to see from the BBC :-) Dan [1] I'm not a fan of the term podcast but you know what I mean! - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk http://backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- You can't build a reputation based on what you are going to do. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC World TV data
Hi George, No, BBC World TV is not part of this data set. The data is not held on the same scheduling system we use for the UK public service channels - so therefore we don't produce it as part of the Backstage feed. Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew McParland | Phone: +44 (0) 1737 839590 BBC Research Development | Fax: +44 (0) 1737 839665 Kingswood Warren, Tadworth | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Surrey, KT20 6NP, UK | Web: http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd On Sat, Jul 30, 2005 at 09:13:27AM +1000, George Bray wrote: Do any of these feeds cover the BBC World TV Channel as seen in the southern hemisphere? Extension Channel BBCOne BBC One (London) BBCTwo BBC Two BBCNewsTF BBC News 24 BBCThree BBC Three BBCFour BBC Four BBCCBBC CBBC BBCCBeebies CBeebies BBCParl BBC Parliament BBCWrld BBC World Service BBCROne BBC Radio 1 OneXtra BBC Radio 1 Extra BBCR2 BBC Radio 2 BBCRThree BBC Radio 3 BBCRFour BBC Radio 4 (FM Service) BBCRFiveL BBC Radio 5 Live BBCRFiveX BBC Five Live Sports Extra BBCSixMu BBC 6 Music BBCSeven BBC7 http://www.lyngsat-address.com/ab/BBC-World.html George George Bray Streaming Specialist, Technical Services Unit Division of Communication and Education University of Canberra, ACT, 2601, Australia http://www.ce.canberra.edu.au/tsu/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Desk 02 6201 2911 Mobile 0411 111 606 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] TV-Anytime: Feedback please!
Hi Ben, What sort of documentation would you like? A few pointers to some existing information below: + Our LGPL'ed Java TV-Anytime API: http://www.bbc.co.uk/opensource/projects/tv_anytime_api/ contains a useful paper detailing the API which gives a good idea of what's in TV-Anytime, also available from: http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp-pdf-files/WHP060.pdf + Plenary documents of the TV-Anytime Forum (including drafts of the specifications): ftp://tva:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Plenary/0-Plenary.html + Including a draft of the current ETSI version of the Metadata specification (includes XML Schema): ftp://tva:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Plenary/TV288r1.zip + And a Systems specification that includes some more examples and philosophy of use: ftp://tva:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Plenary/TV302r1.zip + Note that the ETSI versions are the definitive versions of the specifications, freely downloadable with registration from www.etsi.org + A short, high-level introductory overview: TV-Anytime - using all that extra data: http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp-pdf-files/WHP050.pdf + An overview of the structure of the specifications: TV-Anytime Phase 1 - a decisive milestone in open standards for Personal Video Recorders: http://www.ebu.ch/trev_295-evain.pdf Some of the higher level documents are useful for getting accross the ah, it's not just an EPG then idea and the use of identifiers (CRIDs), grouping, etc. I hope that helps a bit. But please do let us know what more specific info would help you. Cheers, Andrew Andrew McParland | Phone: +44 (0) 1737 839590 BBC Research Development | Fax: +44 (0) 1737 839665 Kingswood Warren, Tadworth | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Surrey, KT20 6NP, UK | Web: http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 03:23:00PM +0100, Ben O'Neill wrote: I like the data and plan on using it quite soon (I've only had brief looks so far) but I'd like to see better documentation. Being gzipped isn't a problem for me. On 19/07/05, Ben Metcalfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks As you will know, we released the TV Anytime feeds a couple of weeks back (In case anyone hasn't seen them yet, they live here: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/data/7DayListingData) We're keen to hear your feedback about the feeds, in particular if there is anything we can do to help make them easier for you to integrate into your prototypes. Please let us know your thoughts and views generally, but questions we have been thinking about include: * Could we package them differently (ie not gzip archive)? * Do we need to make better documentation available? * Do you want a perl/php API to access the data more easily? Please let me know - either via this list or directly to me: backstage (at) bbc.co.uk. Thanks folks Ben + backstage.bbc.co.uk team. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. -- Ben O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
