RE: [backstage] RSS Feeds wish list
Jim, Categories for items in our RSS feeds is a great idea an we are currently looking at the work that would be involved in adding some category information to items within the RSS feeds for News and Sport, so watch this space. However I am afraid to say that you may be a little disappointed by our basic categorisation model in News and Sport which effectively means that our stories only have one category. The positioning of stories on the page (and what that might mean in terms of importance) is an interesting idea and I can see how it would be extremely useful, but I suspect this would be much harder to implement in any meaningful way if was to work for the large variety of index pages we have on our sites e.g. http://news.bbc.co.uk/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/default.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/default.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/video_and_audio/default.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/horse_racing/photo_gallerie s/default.stm However if you would like to make some suggestions we'd be pleased to hear from you, Joel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Sent: 20 October 2005 11:14 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] RSS Feeds wish list Hi, Part of optional elements for RSS 'items' is 'category', is it possible to include this in the feeds? Adding something like categoryentertainment / celebrity/category or categorytechnology / internet/category would be a great addition for allowing easy seperation of data. Basing it on the title tag or the feed URL is possible but it's clunky and the category headings are limited to main sections where I imagine the BBC has multiple category fields in order that the CMS can find related items..? Whilst im at it, what are the chances of adding in the position of an article on the site? For instance, there are 3 main sections to a page, main article, 4 high profile articles and multiple one liners. This kind of thing can really help determine the importance of the article in question. Jim. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories
This sounds like it could be built on top of one of a social bookmarking sites. Then you could post your (geo)tags of BBC News stories to your social bookmarks account using the site's API...and others could use the same API to interrogate the site for the tags that have been associated with a particular BBC News story by asking for all the tags associated with the story's URL. It doesn't look like this would be possible using del.ico.us because it's API http://del.icio.us/doc/api does not enable you to request all the tags/extended descriptions used for a particular URL. However perhaps one of the open source implementations e.g. http://de.lirio.us/ or http://sourceforge.net/projects/scuttle/ could be modified to enable this? Joel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Hurst Sent: 22 July 2005 10:09 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Geotagging BBC news stories I think the separation of the original data from the annotation is attractive. Yes, the annotation would be almost meaningless without the original data, but it would save the annotation owner from republishing the original content and any considerations of legality, etc. In addition, it would drive traffic to the source of the original content (always a good thing). There are (at least) two possible approaches: a query approach (give me your annotation for this guid) and a syndicated approach. The syndicated approach is less of a resource strain as the provider just has to deliver something very similar to rss, they don't have to have a query service running, just a document server (web server). In terms of developing the idea, we could certainly start with getting feedback in this forum and even have some implementations provide a service (Davy?). But I'd also like to hear any advice about how we can rapidly formalize this and get the idea out there along with a proposal for an api/document format. If only we had that wiki we were all so excited about up and running... As the format is simple (guid mapping to some bundle of information), I guess we are thinking of something like: .. annotationStream feedURL= bbc feed that is being annotated annotationURI=http://www.latedecember.com/newsMood.xml;. annotation guid=... !-- put your annotation here-- /annotation ...more of above... /annotationStream Note that the stream points to both the rss feed and the annotation information (which ought to describe the syntax and semantics of the element at !--put your annotation here--) Davy, if you put a file up like this, I could easily integrate it into my data sphere thing and put up some screen shots - we could claim that constitutes the first implementation! Matt http://datamining.typepad.com On 7/22/05, Davy Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/21/05, Tony Hirst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk on 21 July 2005 at 21:52 + wrote: it seems you have the same motivation as I had when I mailed this list about RSS Annotation Streams! The whole idea sounds great. I have plans to expose some of the Mood News data but never thought of anything quite so detailed. How about an XML with the URL as GUID plus the data (rating, colour etc) ? Would it need a basic schema structure? Could lead to some very interesting client applications! Thanks, Davy -- Davy Mitchell http://www.latedecember.com - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
[backstage] Proposed BBC News' Zeitgeist project
Title: [backstage] Proposed BBC News' Zeitgeist project The proposed BBC News' Zeitgeist project aims to generate real time or near real time information about the way our audience use the BBC News web site. We aim to display some of this information on our site and also to make some of this information available as a resource for the backstage community to show what you can do with it. At this early stage we are investigating which information should be collected, how much it would cost us and how we could present this information to our audience. The sort of information we might collect could include (but may not be restricted to) - top viewed stories - top emailed stories - top search terms - top clustered stories It may also be possible to break some of this information down by geographic region (of those viewing the content) We would really appreciate your ideas about how you might present near real-time information about how the BBC News site is being used. We cannot guarantee that we will be able to provide the information that you would need to make your idea reality, but your ideas will help us make decisions about which information we collect and how we make it available. Tell us about your ideas. Joel
