RE: [backstage] WARN: backstage developer only list going down this weekend
How come when you make these announcements about closing the developer list something contrary happens? The last time it was a flurry of activity on the developer list. This time it's a flurry of activity on the main list. Most odd. -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk]on Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 15 July 2009 13:26 To: backstage-develo...@lists.bbc.co.uk Cc: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] WARN: backstage developer only list going down this weekend Importance: High This is the last call guys, the developer only list is going away at the end of the week. -- Hi Everyone, The developer only list (backstage-developer) was setup when there was massive amounts of traffic on the main list, however in recent months the traffic on the list has dropped and we are only seeing one or two posts on the developer only list. So we're looking to shutdown the developer only list and bring some unity and balance back to the main list. I understand this won't be supported by many of you, but we did give you the chance to feedback. So by the end of the week, we will shutdown the list and anyone attached to that list will be automatically unsubscribed. Big thanks to everyone who subscribed to the developer only list, I really hope you do re-subscribe to the main mailing list, which is much quieter now. It was considered to automatically move people across to the main list but it didn't seem fair. So if your interested in joining the main list again, just ping Major-domo a email on backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk with the subject subscribe. Cheers, Ian Forrester This e-mail is: []secret; []private; [x]public Senior Producer, BBC Backstage, BBC RD Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk work: +44 (0)1612444063 | mob: +44 (0)7711913293 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.387 / Virus Database: 270.13.12/2235 - Release Date: 07/15/09 06:07:00 attachment: winmail.dat
RE: [backstage] WARN: backstage developer only list going down this weekend
And now a late fightback on the developer list. -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk]on Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 15 July 2009 13:26 To: backstage-develo...@lists.bbc.co.uk Cc: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] WARN: backstage developer only list going down this weekend Importance: High This is the last call guys, the developer only list is going away at the end of the week. -- Hi Everyone, The developer only list (backstage-developer) was setup when there was massive amounts of traffic on the main list, however in recent months the traffic on the list has dropped and we are only seeing one or two posts on the developer only list. So we're looking to shutdown the developer only list and bring some unity and balance back to the main list. I understand this won't be supported by many of you, but we did give you the chance to feedback. So by the end of the week, we will shutdown the list and anyone attached to that list will be automatically unsubscribed. Big thanks to everyone who subscribed to the developer only list, I really hope you do re-subscribe to the main mailing list, which is much quieter now. It was considered to automatically move people across to the main list but it didn't seem fair. So if your interested in joining the main list again, just ping Major-domo a email on backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk with the subject subscribe. Cheers, Ian Forrester This e-mail is: []secret; []private; [x]public Senior Producer, BBC Backstage, BBC RD Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: ian.forres...@bbc.co.uk work: +44 (0)1612444063 | mob: +44 (0)7711913293 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.387 / Virus Database: 270.13.12/2235 - Release Date: 07/15/09 06:07:00 attachment: winmail.dat
[backstage] Building the Olympic Dream
I'm just watching the last of this series. I missed the first two. It seems to me, from the one program I saw, that some of the information in these programs makes them important documents that should be permanently available public documents. Paul Daniel No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2008 - Release Date: 17/03/2009 16:25 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage-developer] Weather Geolocation
Sorry for coming rather late on this thread. You could try using Yahoo! Pipes - http://pipes.yahoo.com. A pipe can accept XML data using the Fetch Data module, and there is an option to have the output of the pipe in JSON format. Regards Paul Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kai Hendry Sent: 13 November 2008 21:55 To: backstage-developer@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage-developer] Weather Geolocation Making slow progress. :) Spent some time writing a caching routine in PHP for the feeds. We know the feeds get updated at 8am and 8pm, right? http://git.webvm.net/?p=weather Any comments? Didn't quite know how to store the expiration of a file cleverly. This is hosted temporarily on my employer's server. I'll probably move it off sometime. Also made a mobile friendly template. I.e. it looks fine on my Android G1. http://weather.webvm.net/?id=2053 nn, - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk developer discussion group. To unsubscribe, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe backstage-developer [your email] as the message. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.2/1784 - Release Date: 12/11/2008 19:01 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.10/1812 - Release Date: 25/11/2008 19:53 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk developer discussion group. To unsubscribe, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe backstage-developer [your email] as the message.
RE: [backstage] Soundindex
A Yahoo! Pipes version. HYPERLINK http://tinyurl.com/6qq3xrhttp://tinyurl.com/6qq3xr Paul Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 20 May 2008 18:24 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Soundindex Yes, and RSS feed would be a good idea.. HYPERLINK http://www.ukfree.tv/igoogle/soundindex_rss.phphttp://www.ukfree.tv/igoogl e/soundindex_rss.php 2008/5/20 Peter Bowyer HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]: This has to be a target for Backstage HYPERLINK http://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-ge t-the-data/ \nhttp://uk.techcrunch.com/2008/05/20/bbcs-sound-index-is-good-but-we-wont-g et-the-data/ -- Peter Bowyer Email: HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow me on Twitter: HYPERLINK http://twitter.com/peeebeee; \ntwitter.com/peeebeee - Sent via the HYPERLINK http://backstage.bbc.co.uk; \nbackstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit HYPERLINK http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html; \nhttp://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: HYPERLINK http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/; \nhttp://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth HYPERLINK http://www.ukfree.tvhttp://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1456 - Release Date: 20/05/2008 06:45 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1457 - Release Date: 20/05/2008 16:45
RE: [backstage-developer] RSS Sliders
I'm not seeing a replacement of items when I move the slider just a reduction. Firefox 2.0.0.11 and Maxthon 1.6.3 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of neil Sent: 08 January 2008 15:17 To: backstage-developer@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage-developer] RSS Sliders We've been developing a prototype interface element for the BBC which we'd like to release to the Backstage developer community for feedback and improvements. HYPERLINK http://projects.hinterland.nu/bbc/slidershttp://projects.hinterland.nu/bbc /sliders It's a simple slider widget which allows for four RSS feeds to be mixed down into a single list. Two sliders are used, the first to mix two pairs of feeds into two lists, and the second to mix the two lists together. .. The focus is on the BBC website's 'Where I Live' section, and the aim is to allow users to easily choose a balance of News and Local Features, as well as balancing the mix between two counties. Stories are given a value based on their order within the feed, and as the slider moves across, low value stories from one list drop off, to be replaced by high value stories from the new list. Questions include: Is this intuitive? Does the data shift as you might expect? Are two sliders too complex? Is a slider appropriate here, or should something else be used? Is the sorting algorithm right? What should we do about duplicate entries? .. The application is in two parts, a Perl script which consumes RSS feeds (using XML::FeedPP) and generates an embedded JSON array containing the stories from all four sources and their rank. Secondly there is a Javascript function to combine and generate the list(s) visible on the page. Since the time course of 'News' and 'Local Features' differ so widely [news changing by the minute, features dating back weeks] it was not possible to elegantly rank the lists strictly on their publication date - instead we chose to simply score them according to their rank position in the original feed. In this prototype the source feeds are hard-coded into the script - however this could easily be changed to use an external list. Unfortunately the BBC does not have a very RESTful interface to their local features XML, with no consistency in the URL format there is no simple programatic way to access all the BBC regions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 07/01/2008 09:14 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 09/01/2008 10:16
[backstage] BBC Video RSS feeds guid
It looks like the RSS video feeds generate a guid for an item based on the link for the item. Unfortunately the parameters in the link can change places over time resulting in one item that has different links and guids. For example: http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_699/ newsid_6994300?redirect=6994310.stmnews=1bbram=1nbram=1nbwm=1bbwm=1asb =1 and http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_699/ newsid_6994300?redirect=6994310.stmnews=1bbwm=1nbram=1bbram=1nbwm=1asb =1 This can cause feed readers to duplicate the item. Please would someone pass this on to the relevant people.. My apologies if this has already been discussed. Paul Daniel No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.18/1007 - Release Date: 13/09/2007 21:48 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer Protest tommorow, Tuesday 14th, 10:30AM, White City
A view from America. http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheSecretDiaryOfSteveJobs/~3/144065882/freeta rds-attack-bbc-but-get-beaten-off.html Paul Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Lockwood Sent: 15 August 2007 16:37 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer Protest tommorow, Tuesday 14th, 10:30AM, White City More likely, Organisers put the turnout at 800... R. On 8/15/07, Martin Belam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Presumably on the news we'll get the traditional 10+% rule of Organisers put the turnout at 20 people, whilst The Metropolitan Police said 2-and-a-half-people turned up? cheers, martin On 14/08/07, Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/08/07, David Greaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Forrester wrote: Yep we were there along with about another 20 people. So were they making a point or trying to make a difference? I believe the additional media coverage of the unconscionable restrictions in the iPlayer will make a difference. -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Martin Belam - http://www.currybet.net - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- SilverDisc Ltd is registered in England no. 2798073 Registered address: 4 Swallow Court, Kettering, Northamptonshire, NN15 6XX - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 14/08/2007 17:19 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 14/08/2007 17:19 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC iPlayer Protest tommorow, Tuesday 14th, 10:30AM, White City
Dear Dave, Who is Dan Lyons? What is a shill? Who is M...? Namaste Paul Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Crossland Sent: 15 August 2007 18:33 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC iPlayer Protest tommorow, Tuesday 14th, 10:30AM, White City On 15/08/07, Paul Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A view from America. http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheSecretDiaryOfSteveJobs/~3/144065882/freeta rds-attack-bbc-but-get-beaten-off.html Dan Lyons is a well known Microsoft shill. -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 14/08/2007 17:19 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 14/08/2007 17:19 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] iPlayer Today?
Mine just came through. As quickly as I had hoped for and much more quickly than I had expected. Just have to see now if it will work through my proxy (Joost didn't). Paul Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Bridle Sent: 27 July 2007 16:19 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today? How are the accounts being allocated? I signed up this morning, and like Owen I'm wondering when I'll hear. Looking forward to seeing what it looks like in XP on my Intel Mac... shorttermmemoryloss.com Owen Griffin wrote: On 7/27/07, Jonathan Tweed HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Jul 2007, at 09:08, Steve Jolly wrote: Phil Winstanley wrote: Any idea what time it'll be available? This press release [1] says it'll be available from here on the 27^th : - HYPERLINK http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayerhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer When I go to that link I see a Find out more and register... link that takes me through to the signup page. I'm connecting from within the BBC though - perhaps a different page is presented to external visitors? No, that's what appeared last night. What's been launched today is an 'open, closed beta', i.e. it's still only available to users of the beta but anyone can register their interest and at some point receive an account. Has anyone tried using the iPlayer on Linux using wine? I could wait for the Linux version but I'm quite impatient. :) Also, does anyone have any idea how long you have to wait before you receive an account? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.22/922 - Release Date: 27/07/2007 06:08 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.22/922 - Release Date: 27/07/2007 06:08
RE: [backstage] who to ask? weather feeds: why is the explanation of the symbols not used consistently
There are 32 images in this set: http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/images/symbols/fiveday_sym/32.gif and in this set: http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/images/symbols/animated_sym/4.gif Paul Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Lockwood Sent: 25 July 2007 10:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] who to ask? weather feeds: why is the explanation of the symbols not used consistently The explanation on the symbols page is poor, but the actual text in the feed is pretty consistant. I've only needed to match ten phrases to smbols since I wrote my weather map on the 1st of June. (Admittedly, most of those are variants on pi**ing down... but I digress.) So, I match the phrases to these icons like so... sunny intervals = icons/3_sunny_int.png; heavy showers = icons/14_heavy_rain.png; light rain = icons/10_light_rain.png; sunny = icons/1_sunny_day.png; cloudy = icons/8_black_lev_cloud.png; light showers = icons/10_light_rain.png; heavy rain = icons/13_heavy_rain_showers.png; thunderstorm = icons/29_thundery_shower.png; thundery showers = icons/29_thundery_shower.png; drizzle = icons/9_light_rain_driz.png; And yes - I'm well aware that the BBC only seems to recognise one kind of thunder when it comes to icons, but see fit to differentiate between thunderstorms and thundery showers in text. I was worried when I started the project that I'd need to pick up sunny intervals, sunny spells, sunny periods, sunny breaks etc. It seems not. Map at: www.sdldev.co.uk/weather/map.asp Cheers, Rich. On 7/25/07, ~:'' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who to ask? weather feeds: why is the explanation of the symbols not used consistently Who at the BBC publishes the weather feeds? why is it that the text description and images are not consistent? in other words, why is the explanation of the symbols not used consistently? London today forecast text is cloudy as it was in yesterday's forecast for today. whereas the graphic yesterday was partly cloudy today it is black low level cloud because the text and graphic are not related consistently as per the explanation of symbols it seems virtually impossible to use the feed accurately. regards Jonathan Chetwynd http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/bbcweather/features/symbols.shtml http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/0008.xml http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?id=0008 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- SilverDisc Ltd is registered in England no. 2798073 Registered address: 4 Swallow Court, Kettering, Northamptonshire, NN15 6XX - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.19/917 - Release Date: 25/07/2007 01:16 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.19/917 - Release Date: 25/07/2007 01:16 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
