Re: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
When I did the weather feeds I collected a number of the location ID's -
link below:
http://server-2.webcoding.co.uk/Locations.html
Jim.
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From: Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:17 PM
Subject: RE: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
Nice to see the weather feeds!
I was going to make a Vista sidebar version, but there appears to be no
index of places to get the locations_id.
Is there an index or search facility to get locations_id?
Brian Butterworth
www.ukfree.tv
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathryn Schmitt
Sent: 18 October 2006 13:27
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Cc: Frances Runnalls
Subject: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
Greetings Backstagers,
I am very pleased to inform you that BBC Weather's first RSS feeds are now
live. Links to them can be found on all 5 day forecast pages:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
The feeds are located at
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/{world|id}/{location_id}.xml
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/{world|id}/{location_id}.xml
E.g. http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/2315.xml
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/2315.xml and
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4567.xml
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4567.xml
All of the 7379 feeds are updated at least* twice a day (at approximately
8AM/PM *GMT*).
We are planning more feeds, and improvements to these ones as well (e.g.
dynamic generation of feeds, which will allow us to offer different
flavours
such as Atom; additional content such as tide times and current
observations
(Met Office willing); additional semantic mark-up).
In the meantime we look forward to seeing your BBC Weather widgets in the
Backstage Widgets Compo:
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/widgets_competi.html
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/widgets_competi.html
I have included geo:lat/long tags in all entries to facilitate mappy
mashups. Enjoy!
I look forward to hearing your comments, concerns and ideas.
Best,
Kass
Kathryn Schmitt
Senior Developer
BBC Weather Centre
2026 Television Centre
T: 020 82259448
M: 0771 7582482
www.bbc.co.uk/weather file://www.bbc.co.uk/weather
www.bbc.co.uk/climate file://www.bbc.co.uk/climate
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Re: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
Michael Ferenduros wrote: Feeds listed by country/place: http://mike260.dyndns.org/~mikef/countries.opml Wow, that's great, thanks. :) You found *another* Aberdeen, too: http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4005.xml with a slightly different forecase to: http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/0014.xml :-) The server will come and go, so if someone wants to provide a more stable home for it, be my guest. I'll do that for you, if you like: http://www.dracos.co.uk/play/bbc-weather/countries.opml ATB, Matthew - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
Nice to see the weather feeds!
I was going to make a Vista sidebar version, but there appears to be no
index of places to get the locations_id.
Is there an index or search facility to get locations_id?
Brian Butterworth
www.ukfree.tv
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathryn Schmitt
Sent: 18 October 2006 13:27
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Cc: Frances Runnalls
Subject: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
Greetings Backstagers,
I am very pleased to inform you that BBC Weather's first RSS feeds are now
live. Links to them can be found on all 5 day forecast pages:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
The feeds are located at
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/{world|id}/{location_id}.xml
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/{world|id}/{location_id}.xml
E.g. http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/2315.xml
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/2315.xml and
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4567.xml
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4567.xml
All of the 7379 feeds are updated at least* twice a day (at approximately
8AM/PM *GMT*).
We are planning more feeds, and improvements to these ones as well (e.g.
dynamic generation of feeds, which will allow us to offer different flavours
such as Atom; additional content such as tide times and current observations
(Met Office willing); additional semantic mark-up).
In the meantime we look forward to seeing your BBC Weather widgets in the
Backstage Widgets Compo:
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/widgets_competi.html
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/widgets_competi.html
I have included geo:lat/long tags in all entries to facilitate mappy
mashups. Enjoy!
I look forward to hearing your comments, concerns and ideas.
Best,
Kass
Kathryn Schmitt
Senior Developer
BBC Weather Centre
2026 Television Centre
T: 020 82259448
M: 0771 7582482
www.bbc.co.uk/weather file://www.bbc.co.uk/weather
www.bbc.co.uk/climate file://www.bbc.co.uk/climate
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http://www.myservicescentral.com/Temp/bbcfeed.csv
http://mike260.dyndns.org/~mikef/countries.opml
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Sent: 19 October 2006 18:18
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Subject: RE: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
Nice to see the weather feeds!
I was going to make a Vista sidebar version, but there appears to be no
index of places to get the locations_id.
Is there an index or search facility to get locations_id?
Brian Butterworth
www.ukfree.tv
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathryn Schmitt
Sent: 18 October 2006 13:27
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Cc: Frances Runnalls
Subject: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
Greetings Backstagers,
I am very pleased to inform you that BBC Weather's first RSS feeds are
now
live. Links to them can be found on all 5 day forecast pages:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
The feeds are located at
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/{world|id}/{location_id}.xml
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/{world|id}/{location_id}.xml
E.g. http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/2315.xml
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/2315.xml and
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4567.xml
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4567.xml
All of the 7379 feeds are updated at least* twice a day (at
approximately
8AM/PM *GMT*).
We are planning more feeds, and improvements to these ones as well (e.g.
dynamic generation of feeds, which will allow us to offer different
flavours
such as Atom; additional content such as tide times and current
observations
(Met Office willing); additional semantic mark-up).
In the meantime we look forward to seeing your BBC Weather widgets in
the
Backstage Widgets Compo:
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/widgets_competi.html
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/widgets_competi.html
I have included geo:lat/long tags in all entries to facilitate mappy
mashups. Enjoy!
I look forward to hearing your comments, concerns and ideas.
Best,
Kass
Kathryn Schmitt
Senior Developer
BBC Weather Centre
2026 Television Centre
T: 020 82259448
M: 0771 7582482
www.bbc.co.uk/weather file://www.bbc.co.uk/weather
www.bbc.co.uk/climate file://www.bbc.co.uk/climate
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Re: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
doh! sorry. I'll fix that...but possibly not until I return from my holiday (unless I'm really bored).Best,KassOn 10/24/06, Michael Ferenduros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello,Pedantic bug-report:There's an 'eacute;' in world/4026.xml that I don't _think_ is valid XML(because eacute isn't a predefined entity).I wouldn't mention it otherwise, but it causes the parser I'm using to barf. Tarra,Mike-Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group.To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
Kind soul sought:
could someone please publish that gobbldegook of backslashes etc that
extracts the key words?
ie light rain
I'd like to update a public domain ~:! svg graphic of the weather
using js case set against half a dozen common predictions.
however perlmongering is beyond me just now
http://www.peepo.co.uk/peepo2 is the likely location
cheers
Jonathan Chetwynd
On 19 Oct 2006, at 15:10, Kathryn Schmitt wrote:
Hi Michael,
There's a Senegalese proverb: 'Ndank ndank muy japp gollo ci nyaay':
Slowly slowly you catch the monkey in the bush.
At the moment we have only gotten permission from the Met Office to use
day 1 data in our publicly available feeds. The reason the url says
'5day' is that it is a summary of the 5day page. I apologise for any
confusion this causes.
The MO did agree (a while ago) to allow the use of all 5 days' data for
a Backstage feed, on the condition that we use a developer key system.
This is not something that the Weather Centre has the resources to
provide (our new media tech team consists of 1 software engineer (me)
and 1 client-side developer). There was talk of the Backstage team
providing a developer key system, but I do not know the current status
of that project. Perhaps Matt or Ian can say.
Our hope is that eventually the right people at the Met Office will get
excited about the implications of what we have done with their data, and
will allow us include more in the public feeds.
Best,
Kass
Kathryn Schmitt
Senior Developer
BBC Weather Centre
2026 Television Centre
T: 020 82259448
M: 0771 7582482
www.bbc.co.uk/weather
www.bbc.co.uk/climate
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Sent: 18 October 2006 19:46
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
also the url is a bit deceiving, seeing '5day' in the url made me think
that it would contain a 5 day forecast, but it only seems to be 1 day.
Is there any chance this could have 5 days like the url suggests?
On 18/10/06, Michael Pritchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what would be useful would be some sort of listing of all areas,
such as an opml file. I don't fancy manually finding out what each of
the 7379 feeds correspond to
On 18/10/06, Kathryn Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings Backstagers,
I am very pleased to inform you that BBC Weather's first
RSS feeds are now live. Links to them can be found on all 5 day
forecast pages: http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
The feeds are located at
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/{world|id}/{location_id}.xml
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/%7Bworld%7Cid%7D/%7Blocation_i
d%7D.xml
E.g.
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/2315.xml
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/2315.xml and
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4567.xml
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4567.xml
All of the 7379 feeds are updated at least* twice a day
(at approximately 8AM/PM *GMT*).
We are planning more feeds, and improvements to these
ones as well (e.g. dynamic generation of feeds, which will allow us to
offer different flavours such as Atom; additional content such as tide
times and current observations (Met Office willing); additional semantic
mark-up).
In the meantime we look forward to seeing your BBC
Weather widgets in the Backstage Widgets Compo:
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/widgets_competi.html
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/widgets_competi.html
I have included geo:lat/long tags in all entries to
facilitate mappy mashups. Enjoy!
I look forward to hearing your comments, concerns and
ideas.
Best,
Kass
Kathryn Schmitt
Senior Developer
BBC Weather Centre
2026 Television Centre
T: 020 82259448
M: 0771 7582482
www.bbc.co.uk/weather
www.bbc.co.uk/climate
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RE: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
Yes, good idea. I'll see what I can do.
Best,
Kass
Kathryn Schmitt
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BBC Weather Centre
2026 Television Centre
T: 020 82259448
M: 0771 7582482
www.bbc.co.uk/weather
www.bbc.co.uk/climate
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Sent: 18 October 2006 19:40
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
what would be useful would be some sort of listing of all areas, such as
an opml file. I don't fancy manually finding out what each of the 7379
feeds correspond to
On 18/10/06, Kathryn Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings Backstagers,
I am very pleased to inform you that BBC Weather's first RSS
feeds are now live. Links to them can be found on all 5 day forecast
pages: http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
The feeds are located at
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/{world|id}/{location_id}.xml
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/%7Bworld%7Cid%7D/%7Blocation_i
d%7D.xml
E.g. http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/2315.xml
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/2315.xml and
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4567.xml
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4567.xml
All of the 7379 feeds are updated at least* twice a day (at
approximately 8AM/PM *GMT*).
We are planning more feeds, and improvements to these ones as
well (e.g. dynamic generation of feeds, which will allow us to offer
different flavours such as Atom; additional content such as tide times
and current observations (Met Office willing); additional semantic
mark-up).
In the meantime we look forward to seeing your BBC Weather
widgets in the Backstage Widgets Compo:
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/widgets_competi.html
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/widgets_competi.html
I have included geo:lat/long tags in all entries to facilitate
mappy mashups. Enjoy!
I look forward to hearing your comments, concerns and ideas.
Best,
Kass
Kathryn Schmitt
Senior Developer
BBC Weather Centre
2026 Television Centre
T: 020 82259448
M: 0771 7582482
www.bbc.co.uk/weather
www.bbc.co.uk/climate
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RE: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
Michael,
I knocked together some C# to give us a list. Heres the
list: -
http://www.myservicescentral.com/Temp/bbcfeed.csv
Cheers,
Phil.
using System;
using System.Xml;
namespace BBCWeather
{
class Program
{
static void Main(string[] args)
{
for (int i = 1000; i 8000; i++)
{
XmlDocument Doc = new XmlDocument();
try
{
Doc.Load(http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/ + i.ToString() + .xml);
Console.Write(i.ToString() + ,);
Console.Write(Doc.GetElementsByTagName(item)[0][title].InnerText.Split(',')[0].Replace(The
forecast for , )
+ ,);
Console.Write(Doc.GetElementsByTagName(item)[0][geo:lat].InnerText + ,);
Console.Write(Doc.GetElementsByTagName(item)[0][geo:long].InnerText + \n);
}
catch (Exception ex)
{
//Console.WriteLine(DateTime.Now.ToString()
+ + ex.Message);
}
}
}
}
}
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what would be useful would be
some sort of listing of all areas, such as an opml file. I don't fancy manually
finding out what each of the 7379 feeds correspond to
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Re: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
Hey Kass, Kathryn Schmitt wrote: I am very pleased to inform you that BBC Weather's first RSS feeds are now live. Links to them can be found on all 5 day forecast pages: _http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml_ That's great. :) I know an awful lot of hard work must have gone into this. My first comment is that, whereas the mass of feeds is fine if you just want to pick one and subscribe to it or put it on your web site, there seems to be a lot of duplication overall (I thought I remembered reading a post about the mapping of postcodes to forecasts, but I can't find it now :-/ ). For example, the following are all the same forecast for Aberdeen - presumably from the same weather station, given the web pages all have the same Nearest weather observation station coordinates - and the feeds only differ in the partial postcode and slightly different lat/long given: http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/0014.xml http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1013.xml http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1012.xml http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1011.xml http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1010.xml http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1009.xml http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1008.xml http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1007.xml http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1006.xml http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1004.xml http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1002.xml http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1001.xml http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1000.xml I've noddily plotted these on a Google Map: http://www.dracos.co.uk/play/bbc-weather-map/ from which I work out that the world feed's location (the one in yellow) is presumably the location of the weather station, not Aberdeen. :-) Searching for a Aberdeen postcode gives one of the above feeds (though see below), searching for Aberdeen gives id/1000, whereas going through the UK map - http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ukweather/sscotland/ - gives world/0014. Is there a reason that the postcode searches don't just map to a single feed for Aberdeen, e.g. the world one? I guess the current answer for a hypothetical backstage developer is just to use the world feed, but then it's hard to work out/get e.g. just the Scottish feeds. Secondly, still on Aberdeen, there are two locations with (currently) different forecasts with exactly the same co-ordinates: AB14 (Aberdeen/Peterculter): http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1005.xml http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1006.xml and AB13 (Aberdeen/Milltimber): http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1003.xml http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/1004.xml I presume that local changes are made to the non-Aberdeen locations because of some other information, but this does make it look a bit odd. :) Anyway, glad to see the licensing issues sorted, and look forward to more in the future. -- ATB, Matthew http://www.dracos.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Official BBC Weather feeds ahoy!
also the url is a bit deceiving, seeing '5day' in the url made me think that it would contain a 5 day forecast, but it only seems to be 1 day. Is there any chance this could have 5 days like the url suggests?
On 18/10/06, Michael Pritchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what would be useful would be some sort of listing of all areas, such as an opml file. I don't fancy manually finding out what each of the 7379 feeds correspond to
On 18/10/06,
Kathryn Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings Backstagers,
I am very pleased to inform you that BBC Weather's first RSS feeds are now live. Links to them can be found on all 5 day forecast pages:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml
The feeds are located at
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/{world|id}/{location_id}.xml
E.g.
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/2315.xml and
http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/world/4567.xml
All of the 7379 feeds are updated at least* twice a day (at approximately 8AM/PM *GMT*).
We are planning more feeds, and improvements to these ones as well (e.g. dynamic generation of feeds, which will allow us to offer different flavours such as Atom; additional content such as tide times and current observations (Met Office willing); additional semantic mark-up).
In the meantime we look forward to seeing your BBC Weather widgets in the Backstage Widgets Compo:
http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2006/10/widgets_competi.html
I have included geo:lat/long tags in all entries to facilitate mappy mashups. Enjoy!
I look forward to hearing your comments, concerns and ideas.
Best,
Kass
Kathryn Schmitt
Senior Developer
BBC Weather Centre
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