Re: [backstage] One-day Conference To Help Web Developers Address Accessibility in Web 2.0
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, We're involved in abilitynet's one day conference - www.abilitynet.org.uk/accessibility2 So who's actually going to this then? Cheers, Rich. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] One-day Conference To Help Web Developers Address Accessibility in Web 2.0
On 12/03/2008, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're involved in abilitynet's one day conference - www.abilitynet.org.uk/accessibility2 So who's actually going to this then? I'll likely be there mis-representing Yamaha RD. Anthony.
Re: [backstage] One-day Conference To Help Web Developers Address Accessibility in Web 2.0
On 05/03/2008, Andy Halsall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing I would take issue with is that at £150.00 (plus travel and accomodation) this will be out of reach for the group that would benefit from it most. (i.e. small web design company's, freelancers etc.. students... (yes, £90 *is* a lot for a student if you add it to travel and accomodation) I couldn't agree more. -- www.dobo.urandom.co.uk If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] One-day Conference To Help Web Developers Address Accessibility in Web 2.0
On 5 Mar 2008, at 12:24, Tim Dobson wrote: students... (yes, £90 *is* a lot for a student if you add it to travel and accomodation) I couldn't agree more. £150 for freelancers who live locally, who I bounced this to, has been more than they can afford. And a complete non-starter for coming down from Edinburgh. Is remote participation an option? f - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] One-day Conference To Help Web Developers Address Accessibility in Web 2.0
I don't believe there will be, but ability.net have said they want to do more of them depending on this event. Maybe even even up north Tim. Fearghas McKay wrote: On 5 Mar 2008, at 12:24, Tim Dobson wrote: students... (yes, £90 *is* a lot for a student if you add it to travel and accomodation) I couldn't agree more. £150 for freelancers who live locally, who I bounced this to, has been more than they can afford. And a complete non-starter for coming down from Edinburgh. Is remote participation an option? f - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] One-day Conference To Help Web Developers Address Accessibility in Web 2.0
On 5 Mar 2008, at 13:21, Mr I Forrester wrote: I don't believe there will be, but ability.net have said they want to do more of them depending on this event. Maybe even even up north Tim. I for one am very really pleased to see an event dedicated to this topic, congratulations to AbilityNet and all involved. It's about time we had some focus on this topic, for years the 'bigger' events only ever have one or two sessions on accessibility - and they are usually only a top level view on the issues, which many of us have herd over and over. I agree the costs are a little off putting for smaller outfits who will need to find accommodation, travel and give up a day's worth of income. I would defiantly consider attending of my own back if this came up North, unless I can convince my employer to send me to London. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] One-day Conference To Help Web Developers Address Accessibility in Web 2.0
I agree that accessibility is below the radar of most developers. Less important topics are too, such as color management (modern browsers interpret ICC color profiles). In my experience, what's effective is to videotape the conference and publish the video and audio recordings with transcripts, thus making available the presentations, comments, QA and learnings to all. That can be expensive of course if commercial firms are contracted with, but sometimes outreach to the community concerned can be the solution: offering e.g. free transport to a participant willing to record the event, finding volunteers to transcribe, etc. Sean On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Andrew Disley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5 Mar 2008, at 13:21, Mr I Forrester wrote: I don't believe there will be, but ability.net have said they want to do more of them depending on this event. Maybe even even up north Tim. I for one am very really pleased to see an event dedicated to this topic, congratulations to AbilityNet and all involved. It's about time we had some focus on this topic, for years the 'bigger' events only ever have one or two sessions on accessibility - and they are usually only a top level view on the issues, which many of us have herd over and over. I agree the costs are a little off putting for smaller outfits who will need to find accommodation, travel and give up a day's worth of income. I would defiantly consider attending of my own back if this came up North, unless I can convince my employer to send me to London. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] One-day Conference To Help Web Developers Address Accessibility in Web 2.0
On Monday 03 March 2008 14:51:33 Ian Forrester wrote: Hi All, We're involved in abilitynet's one day conference - www.abilitynet.org.uk/accessibility2 This may actually be quite interesting, its certainly a topic that could do with a little more publicity and support. (I should say its also nice to see the page's referring to the conference boasts both valid markup and passes automated accesibility tests.) The only thing I would take issue with is that at £150.00 (plus travel and accomodation) this will be out of reach for the group that would benefit from it most. (i.e. small web design company's, freelancers etc.. who probably havn't got a compliance team already telling them they should be aiming for accessibility as well as glitz.) Having said that, at least AbilityNet is a charity, so presumably the cash will go to good use. Cheers Andy. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[backstage] One-day Conference To Help Web Developers Address Accessibility in Web 2.0
Hi All, We're involved in abilitynet's one day conference - www.abilitynet.org.uk/accessibility2 If you found our podcast about web 2.0 accessibility useful or interesting, this whole day of talks and discussions is just right for you. Robin Christopherson Web Services Manager of AbilityNet said “We believe it’s time for the focus to come back onto Accessibility, and that a conference of this kind is what is needed to help developers make their Web 2.0 applications accessible. It promises to be a highly practical day, where delegates come away knowing exactly what they need to do, and where they need to focus to make sure they consider accessibility in their products. With some of the biggest and best names in the industry we are very excited about what this event is going to bring to individuals and the industry as a whole.” Hope to see you all there, Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC5 C3, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TP email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] One-day Conference To Help Web Developers Address Accessibility in Web 2.0
Quoting Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Robin Christopherson Web Services Manager of AbilityNet said “We believe it’s time for the focus to come back onto Accessibility, and that a conference of this kind is what is needed to help developers make their Web 2.0 applications accessible. It promises to be a highly practical day, where delegates come away knowing exactly what they need to do, and where they need to focus to make sure they consider accessibility in their products. With some of the biggest and best names in the industry we are very excited about what this event is going to bring to individuals and the industry as a whole.” Is one day really enough to do justice to this subject. What do we mean by accessibility? Do we mean people with differing levels of computer literacy and the design of sites and services to evolve to be fully inclusive? Do we mean accessibility for those with presbycusis, protanopia, deuteranopia, photosensitive epilepsy, tinnitus and other mildly disabling issues, all of which are specialist use cases. If designers design to be inclusive of all these cases, they are noticeably limited in design schemes and technologies, but normally can create something useful to all. Alternatively, can the data be available in alternative guises, like in BETSIE? For more debilitating issues, it is often necessary to design in such a way that the data may be accessed in alternative ways, like feed readers, text-to-speech engines? Is there a open-standard method? Then what are the legal aspects of the design implementation, from the DPA requirements of holding data about end-users abilities, to the potential for legislation like the Broadcasting Act but for the internet with regards to presentation of access services and OFCOM's guidances on photosensitive epilepsy. -- ST [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] One-day Conference To Help Web Developers Address Accessibility in Web 2.0
Ian Forrester wrote: Hope to see you all there, Cool, so presumably travel and funding arrangements have been made for people/students from the north, (which is deprived of bbc events :( ) so that a wide range of different people can attend this interesting and important event? Tim -- www.blog.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
