RE: [backstage] OS choice (was: Multicast Trial)
I could add quite a few to that anecdotal tally: people who have switched to Macs (Mac Book Pros, especially) and people who say they will switch once Leopard is released. Know a lot of people who last year were planning on switching to Vista - some did and have already gone back to XP or changed to a Mac. One has gone to Linux. Only know one person who has moved to and stuck with Vista. We're in the market for 2 new workstations and 3 laptops and were planning on Vista until all the rumpus broke at Vista's launch. Now undecided, but most likely to go Mac when Leopard is out of its cage. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason Cartwright Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:37 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] OS choice (was: Multicast Trial) I've recently 'switched' [1] (damn you Apple marketing dept!) from an XP desktop to a Macbook as my main computer. Its been almost flawless (unlike all the Vista problems we keep hearing about), and a bit of revelation after being a complete Windowsite since 3.0. I've met 3 people that have bought Macbooks recently, and know of a few others that have a Apple computer purchase planned. Anecdotal evidence, I know, but it seems to be reflected in the numbers... http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/03/20/strong-mac-sales-ex pected-this-quarter J [1] http://www.jasoncartwright.com/blog/entry/2007/2/so_i_bought_a_macbook -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 April 2007 12:10 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Multicast Trial Multicast with Zen.co.uk worked sporadically. When it worked, it worked well. When it didn't, it didn't show anything other than a blank video screen. Just curious and apologies for being off topic, but have noticed, post Vista launch, that quite a lot of people seem to be switching from Windows to Max OSX and Linux. Just wondered if this is true here in this tech forum. Wondered what most people are running and if they see themselves moving OS in the future. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason Cartwright Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:13 AM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Multicast Trial I used the multicast streams when Easynet were on an old trial. Worked a treat. Also, I believe the multicast streams were opened up to all ISPs for a few days when the BBC was experiencing high traffic after the 7/7 London bombings, which was useful. J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Bowden Sent: 10 April 2007 09:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Multicast Trial As far as I understand it, it was more a case of the BBC (and ITV) trialing broadcasting via the multicast infrastructure - moreso than it was a trial of consumers actually watching the content. I was on a ja.net provider for an entire year and not once could I actually watch the multicast content - due to the University's unwillingness to update their own internal network to be multicast-enabled. I got multicast working ONCE, on a neighbour's ISP - but he was paying a LOT for his access, and as a business customer of their he actually worked with the isp to get multicast enabled. My parents are on Zen, and even though that's one of the apparently-supported multicast ISPs for the trial: no luck. I'm on Plus.net at home and whilst they were supposed to be one of the ISPs who was taking part in the trial, it never seemed to be working at Plus.net's end when I looked. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] OS choice (was: Multicast Trial)
I used Solaris on a workstation for many years until OS X was released on the mac. I have two generations of laptops with OS X (one personal, one work) and when I change jobs in a couple of months I will get a new Macbook Pro. For me it is perfect as all of my work is done on farms running *nix machines and X11 makes that easy (it is possible with cygwin on Windoze but everyone I know who does that has problems with authentication a lot of times). And when it comes to play (Adobe, iMovie, iDVD, iTunes ...), OS X has all that for me as well. As for people who have switched, I know many and some are very surprising who said that Apple's were just marketing tools and they would never switch - yet they still have. Cheers, Matt Thank you to those who donated to my rowing challenge. We managed to raise over £3000 ($6000) for Teesside Hospice. England expects that every man will do his duty - Admiral Horatio Lord Nelson, 21st October 1805 Matthew A. C. Lamont [EMAIL PROTECTED] WNSL - West, Room 309phone: (203) 432 5834 Physics Department, Yale University fax: (203) 432 8926 P.O. Box 208124 272 Whitney Avenue New Haven, CT 06520-8124, USA - On 10 Apr 2007, at 08:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could add quite a few to that anecdotal tally: people who have switched to Macs (Mac Book Pros, especially) and people who say they will switch once Leopard is released. Know a lot of people who last year were planning on switching to Vista - some did and have already gone back to XP or changed to a Mac. One has gone to Linux. Only know one person who has moved to and stuck with Vista. We're in the market for 2 new workstations and 3 laptops and were planning on Vista until all the rumpus broke at Vista's launch. Now undecided, but most likely to go Mac when Leopard is out of its cage. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason Cartwright Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:37 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] OS choice (was: Multicast Trial) I've recently 'switched' [1] (damn you Apple marketing dept!) from an XP desktop to a Macbook as my main computer. Its been almost flawless (unlike all the Vista problems we keep hearing about), and a bit of revelation after being a complete Windowsite since 3.0. I've met 3 people that have bought Macbooks recently, and know of a few others that have a Apple computer purchase planned. Anecdotal evidence, I know, but it seems to be reflected in the numbers... http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/03/20/strong-mac- sales-ex pected-this-quarter J [1] http://www.jasoncartwright.com/blog/entry/2007/2/so_i_bought_a_macbook -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 April 2007 12:10 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Multicast Trial Multicast with Zen.co.uk worked sporadically. When it worked, it worked well. When it didn't, it didn't show anything other than a blank video screen. Just curious and apologies for being off topic, but have noticed, post Vista launch, that quite a lot of people seem to be switching from Windows to Max OSX and Linux. Just wondered if this is true here in this tech forum. Wondered what most people are running and if they see themselves moving OS in the future. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason Cartwright Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:13 AM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Multicast Trial I used the multicast streams when Easynet were on an old trial. Worked a treat. Also, I believe the multicast streams were opened up to all ISPs for a few days when the BBC was experiencing high traffic after the 7/7 London bombings, which was useful. J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Bowden Sent: 10 April 2007 09:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Multicast Trial As far as I understand it, it was more a case of the BBC (and ITV) trialing broadcasting via the multicast infrastructure - moreso than it was a trial of consumers actually watching the content. I was on a ja.net provider for an entire year and not once could I actually watch the multicast content - due to the University's unwillingness to update their own internal network to be multicast-enabled. I got multicast working ONCE, on a neighbour's ISP - but he was paying a LOT for his access, and as a business customer of their he actually worked with the isp to get multicast enabled. My parents are on Zen, and even though that's