Re: [BackupPC-users] Can $Conf{DumpPreUserCmd} and $Conf{DumpPostUserCmd} be used to s top and start Exchange Server 5.5 on a Windows NT 4.0 Server as part of a BackupPC job?

2009-03-09 Thread Rob Owens
I used to backup an exchange server using BackupPC and a couple Microsoft 
utilities:  ntbackup and exmerge.  Both of them can back up the exchange
database while exchange is running.  I then used BackupPC to backup the output 
of those utilities.  

ntbackup creates one huge file for the exchange database.  Exmerge creates a 
separate pst file for each mailbox.  

-Rob

On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 04:34:19PM -0700, Jessie M. Bunker-Maxwell wrote:
> We are just beginning to use BackupPC running on a Debian Linux server to
> backup our Exchange Server 5.5 databases via rsyncd running on the Windows
> NT 4.0 server where Exchange is installed.
> 
> Currently, we have bat files scheduled to run on our Windows NT 4.0 Exchange
> Server to stop Exchange services before the BackupPC job runs and start
> Exchange services afterwards.  But this means we're estimating the length of
> time needed for the backups and scheduling these jobs with a safe margin in
> either direction.
> 
> I am concerned that: 1) we are leaving our Exchange database down longer
> than necessary; and 2) if something goes wrong and the procedures that stop
> or start the Exchange database run while BackupPC has the Exchange files
> open for backup, we may corrupt our Exchange data (am I being paranoid
> here?).
> 
> It would be nice if the BackupPC job itself could issue the "net stop" and
> "net start" commands and I'm assuming I would use the $Conf{DumpPreUserCmd}
> and $Conf{DumpPostUserCmd} but I don't understand from the documentation how
> this would be done if you're issuing commands to a Windows server.  Maybe
> this is not possible?
> 
> Can someone tell me if/how I could use $Conf{DumpPreUserCmd}  and
> $Conf{DumpPostUserCmd} to remotely stop and start Exchange?
> 
> Does anyone know if there is any risk around attempting to stop or start the
> Exchange services while BackupPC has the files open for backup?
> 
> Thanks much.
> 
> Jess
> 
> Jessie M. Bunker-Maxwell
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Can $Conf{DumpPreUserCmd} and $Conf{DumpPostUserCmd} be used to stop and start Exchange Server 5.5 on a Windows NT 4.0 Server as part of a BackupPC job?

2009-03-09 Thread Jeff Folsom
Peter Walter wrote:
> Jessie,
>
> It is possible to issue the commands from Linux to stop / start 
> Exchange as you require if you use a third-party utility.
> See http://eol.ovh.org/winexe/index.php for the details.
> You may also be able to use the utility and back up Exchange without 
> stopping the Exchange server *at all* by using the "shadow copy" 
> feature of Windows. See http://www.goodjobsucking.com/?p=62 for an 
> example of such an implementation.
** Volume Shadow doesn't exist for NT4, sadly, though if you or someone 
else has discovered a way to implement it I'd love to know!


Jeff Folsom


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Re: [BackupPC-users] file name mangling and unmangling

2009-03-09 Thread Craig Barratt
Pramathesh writes:

> The documentation on the backuppc mentions that "old unmangled file
> names are still supported by the CGI interace". However, I have not been
> able to figure out how and where this option can be set.

What that means is backups taken with very old versions of BackupPC
(when file mangling was off or not implemented, prior to 1.4.0) will
still be displayed correctly in the CGI interface.

Craig

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up a BackupPc host

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Robertson
Peter Walter wrote:
> All,
>
> I have implemented backuppc on a Linux server in my mixed OSX / Windows 
> / Linux environment for several months now, and I am very happy with the 
> results. For additional disaster recovery protection, I am considering 
> implementing an off-site backup of the backuppc server using rsync to 
> synchronize the backup pool to a remote server. However, I have heard 
> that in a previous release of backuppc, rsyncing to another server did 
> not work because backuppc kept changing the file and directory names in 
> the backup pool, leading the remote rsync server to having to 
> re-transfer the entire backup pool (because it thinks the renamed files 
> are new files).
>
> I have searched the wiki and the mailing list and can't find any 
> discussion of this topic.

http://www.mail-archive.com/backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg13367.html

>  Can anyone confirm that the way backuppc 
> manages the files and directories in the backup pool would make it 
> difficult to rsync to another server, and, if so, can anyone suggest a 
> method for "mirroring" the backuppc server at an offsite backup machine?
>
> Regards,
> Peter

Chris

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up a BackupPc host

2009-03-09 Thread David Lasker
I recently set up my first (and only) BackupPC server. I use Mike Rubel's
rsync "snapshot" mechanism (see
http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/) to back up the entire
server, including the BackupPC pool, to a local hard disk drive. I take a
new snapshot on a daily basis. It looks to me like each daily snapshot is
taking about 2 to 3% of the total pool space. This leads me to believe that
most pool files are not changing, unless the underlying data changes. So,
although I have never tried it, I would have thought rsync of the pool to a
remote machine might be doable. It would need a fast network due to the
large pool size.

Is there a problem with my approach?

Thanks for the help!

Dave

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Peter Walter wrote:
> All,
>
> I have implemented backuppc on a Linux server in my mixed OSX / Windows 
> / Linux environment for several months now, and I am very happy with the 
> results. For additional disaster recovery protection, I am considering 
> implementing an off-site backup of the backuppc server using rsync to 
> synchronize the backup pool to a remote server. However, I have heard 
> that in a previous release of backuppc, rsyncing to another server did 
> not work because backuppc kept changing the file and directory names in 
> the backup pool, leading the remote rsync server to having to 
> re-transfer the entire backup pool (because it thinks the renamed files 
> are new files).
>
> I have searched the wiki and the mailing list and can't find any 
> discussion of this topic.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Client initiated backups, input wanted

2009-03-09 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 23:57 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Apache has a large number of authentication modules that you can use 
> directly, but I use mod_auth_pam with checks against both the local 
> system users added to the backuppc server and an AD server.

At work I've joined the CentOS 5 box running backuppc to the Windows
domain. I've configured kerberos in the Apache virtual host config for
the backuppc web page which gives us SSO from Windows and Linux
desktops, whether they're running Firefox or IE.  Pretty slick!

Regards,

Ranbir

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