Re: [BackupPC-users] Backuppc: return of investment
I just make an rsync copy of my data to an external USB-attached drive every now and then, and rotate a few drives in and out of my safe. A lot more simplistic than backuppc, and not automated, but it is simple to operate and secure. That is good advice, thank you. Do you rsync the entire backup directory tree? That will save the entire history, but requires an external disk about the same size as the backup drive. But - thanks to links - just a snaphost of the most recent situtation will probably not result in a tremendous saving. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Backuppc: return of investment
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:29:05 +0200, Juergen Harms writes: I just make an rsync copy of my data to an external USB-attached drive every now and then, and rotate a few drives in and out of my safe. A lot more simplistic than backuppc, and not automated, but it is simple to operate and secure. That is good advice, thank you. I have /var/lib/backuppc (and /etc/backuppc via symlink) on an (encrypted) 3-disk RAID-1, constantly degraded to 2 disks, and on occasion sync a 3rd disk which is cycled with another in the safe. cheers, rw -- -- We're sysadmins. We deal with the inconceivable so often -- I can clearly see the need to define levels of -- inconceivability. - Rik Steenwinkel signature.asc Description: Digital Signature -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] sauvegarde hors de serveur
salut tous le monde, j'utilise backuppc tout se fonctionne correctement sauf que je veux savoir est ce que je peux sauvegarder les données sur un autre pc(pas le serveur) merci d'avance [Laughing] +-- |This was sent by vicky77p...@gmail.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
[BackupPC-users] Backup of backuppc User Directory
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yohoo! I just encountered an issue with the BackupPC itself. I'm backing up loads of Linux servers with rsync. So in the home directory of the backuppc user there is obviously a .ssh directory which contains the ssh-keys and the host keys (known_hosts). For whatever reason the known_hosts got corrupted and backuppc was not able to backup my Linux servers any more. I'm not complaining about this, it makes sense. I had to logon as backuppc and manually connect to all servers so the host keys are stored again in the new know_hosts file, because /var/lib/BackupPC is excluded from backup. What I'm wondering is which include/exclude rules I should apply so the user data itself is backed up, but not the backup repository. Anyone an idea? Thanks! Christian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with CentOS - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKeCve0XNIYlAXmzsRAvuhAJ4tB2sAGObK7MMeCaH2/q9sDD1IOACfZF4J dOyUEWkWRx1WONY3ZEdXjCE= =eg+s -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Backuppc: return of investment
Hi, On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 03:39, Robert Waldnerwald...@waldner.priv.at wrote: I have /var/lib/backuppc (and /etc/backuppc via symlink) on an (encrypted) 3-disk RAID-1, constantly degraded to 2 disks, and on occasion sync a 3rd disk which is cycled with another in the safe. I have /var/lib/BackupPC in a RAID-10 array of fast disks using XFS filesystem, then once a week I stop BackupPC, unmount it, and use xfs_copy (does more or less the same as dd on other filesystems, only copies data blocks only) to an external USB 2TB disk encrypted with LUKS. The copy of approximately 1.3TB takes about 15 hours. I have four external USB disks that I rotate and send offsite in a weekly basis. The disadvantage I see about keeping a degraded encrypted RAID-1 is that performance will suffer during normal operation, both due to encryption and the fact that you have only two disks, and also that the disk you keep offsite must be the same as the other two, which can get expensive depending on how much performance you want to get from it... HTH, Filipe -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup of backuppc User Directory
Le mardi 04 août 2009 à 14:38 +0200, Christian Völker a écrit :
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Yohoo!
I just encountered an issue with the BackupPC itself.
I'm backing up loads of Linux servers with rsync. So in the home
directory of the backuppc user there is obviously a .ssh directory which
contains the ssh-keys and the host keys (known_hosts).
For whatever reason the known_hosts got corrupted and backuppc was not
able to backup my Linux servers any more. I'm not complaining about
this, it makes sense.
I had to logon as backuppc and manually connect to all servers so the
host keys are stored again in the new know_hosts file, because
/var/lib/BackupPC is excluded from backup.
What I'm wondering is which include/exclude rules I should apply so the
user data itself is backed up, but not the backup repository.
Anyone an idea?
I use something like this:
$Conf{RsyncShareName} = [
'/var/lib/BackupPC'
];
$Conf{BackupFilesOnly} = {
'/var/lib/BackupPC' = [
'/etc',
'/log',
'/.ssh'
]
};
(etc and log are usually not stored here, but I've symlinked those dir
to /etc/BackupPC and /var/log/BackupPC so everything in one place).
Cheers, Daniel
Thanks!
Christian
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup of backuppc User Directory
Hi, 2009/8/4 Christian Völker chrisc...@knebb.de: What I'm wondering is which include/exclude rules I should apply so the user data itself is backed up, but not the backup repository. Anyone an idea? I don't think you need to back up the encryption keys or SSH configuration, as you saw yourself it's fairly easy to recreate that data. If you really want to back that up, you can just create a new host localhost in your BackupPC and use /var/lib/BackupPC/.ssh as the share name to backup. What would be more important is to backup /etc/BackupPC, but in that case I would not advise you to back that up in BackupPC. Maybe you should periodically copy the contents of /etc/BackupPC and /var/lib/BackupPC/.ssh to an external USB disk? But be very careful of where you store your backup keys! They can potentially give root access to all your servers to whoever has access to them. HTH, Filipe -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BackupPC-users] Backuppc: return of investment
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:22:52 EDT, Filipe Brandenburger writes: The disadvantage I see about keeping a degraded encrypted RAID-1 is that performance will suffer during normal operation, both due to encryption and the fact that you have only two disks, and also that the disk you keep offsite must be the same as the other two, which can get expensive depending on how much performance you want to get from it... The speed-limit I see is the CPU of my backup machine (it's _slow_). And as for space .. I bought 6 disks of equal size (though from different manufacturers/product lines, of course - well, yes, I'm paranoid that way), and when only, say, 4 of them will still be working, it'll be time for a capacity-upgrade anyway. cheers, rw -- -- Haushaltsvorstand ist immer der, der das Haeusl *nicht* putzt. -- - Kommentar zur letzten Volkszaehlung signature.asc Description: Digital Signature -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ BackupPC-users mailing list BackupPC-users@lists.sourceforge.net List:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/backuppc-users Wiki:http://backuppc.wiki.sourceforge.net Project: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/
