Re: [BackupPC-users] speed up backups

2010-05-30 Thread Ralf Gross
Ralf Gross schrieb:
 Les Mikesell schrieb:
  On 5/26/2010 3:41 PM, Ralf Gross wrote:
   Ralf Gross schrieb:
   write(1, N\2\0\7\5\3lvs\r\0\0\0\r\0\0\0lvmiopversion8\5..., 594) = 594
   select(1, [0], [], NULL, {60, 0})   = 0 (Timeout)
   select(1, [0], [], NULL, {60, 0})   = 0 (Timeout)
   select(1, [0], [], NULL, {60, 0})   = 0 (Timeout)
   select(1, [0], [], NULL, {60, 0})   = 0 (Timeout)
   select(1, [0], [], NULL, {60, 0}
  
  
   smells like a time out, but I don't know where. I found a couple of 
   messages
   with similar output in the list archives, but none of them had a 
   solution yet.
  
   *grr*
  
   I only traced the Xfer PID, not the PID. BackupPC_dump seems to be
   active and comparing the file list with the pool and I see high cpu
   load.
  
   I'm sure that I haven't seen that as I abortet the backup before.
   Now I'll have will wait until tomorrow morning...
  
  Until the 2nd full completes, the server side has to uncompress the 
  stored copy to compute the checkums on existing files.  And there may be 
  some quirk about switching from tar to rsync that I've forgotten.  Maybe 
  the 1st run will add the checksum cache for files you already have.
 
 
 The full rsync is still running sind 5/26 21:00. I'll report back when
 it's done. 


Ok, the first rsync full backup (488) completed. It took 500min. longer than
the last tar full backup (482).

Backup  TypeFilled  Level   Start Date  Duration/mins  Age/days
482 fullyes 0   5/19 02:05  3223.2 11.5
483 incrno  1   5/21 07:4989.6  9.2
484 incrno  2   5/22 03:05   136.4  8.4
485 incrno  3   5/23 03:05   119.1  7.4
486 incrno  4   5/24 03:05   111.4  6.4
487 incrno  1   5/25 03:05   165.9  5.4
488 fullyes 0   5/26 21:00  3744.2  3.7
489 incrno  1   5/29 12:15   394.1  1.1
490 incrno  2   5/30 03:05   190.8  0.4

I'm not sure if the checksum caching will compensate this in after the 3rd
backup. Anything else I could do to tune rsync?

Ralf


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Re: [BackupPC-users] speed up backups

2010-05-30 Thread Les Mikesell
Ralf Gross wrote:
 Ralf Gross schrieb:
 Les Mikesell schrieb:
 On 5/26/2010 3:41 PM, Ralf Gross wrote:
 Ralf Gross schrieb:
 write(1, N\2\0\7\5\3lvs\r\0\0\0\r\0\0\0lvmiopversion8\5..., 594) = 594
 select(1, [0], [], NULL, {60, 0})   = 0 (Timeout)
 select(1, [0], [], NULL, {60, 0})   = 0 (Timeout)
 select(1, [0], [], NULL, {60, 0})   = 0 (Timeout)
 select(1, [0], [], NULL, {60, 0})   = 0 (Timeout)
 select(1, [0], [], NULL, {60, 0}


 smells like a time out, but I don't know where. I found a couple of 
 messages
 with similar output in the list archives, but none of them had a solution 
 yet.
 *grr*

 I only traced the Xfer PID, not the PID. BackupPC_dump seems to be
 active and comparing the file list with the pool and I see high cpu
 load.

 I'm sure that I haven't seen that as I abortet the backup before.
 Now I'll have will wait until tomorrow morning...
 Until the 2nd full completes, the server side has to uncompress the 
 stored copy to compute the checkums on existing files.  And there may be 
 some quirk about switching from tar to rsync that I've forgotten.  Maybe 
 the 1st run will add the checksum cache for files you already have.

 The full rsync is still running sind 5/26 21:00. I'll report back when
 it's done. 
 
 
 Ok, the first rsync full backup (488) completed. It took 500min. longer than
 the last tar full backup (482).
 
 BackupTypeFilled  Level   Start Date  Duration/mins  Age/days
 482   fullyes 0   5/19 02:05  3223.2 11.5
 483   incrno  1   5/21 07:4989.6  9.2
 484   incrno  2   5/22 03:05   136.4  8.4
 485   incrno  3   5/23 03:05   119.1  7.4
 486   incrno  4   5/24 03:05   111.4  6.4
 487   incrno  1   5/25 03:05   165.9  5.4
 488   fullyes 0   5/26 21:00  3744.2  3.7
 489   incrno  1   5/29 12:15   394.1  1.1
 490   incrno  2   5/30 03:05   190.8  0.4
 
 I'm not sure if the checksum caching will compensate this in after the 3rd
 backup. Anything else I could do to tune rsync?
 

You could force a full to start on Friday evening so weekly scheduling will 
keep 
the full runs on weekends if they take more than a night to complete.  
Depending 
on how much daily change you have, you might want to set incremental levels for 
the intermediate runs.

A more extreme change would be to edit Rsync.pm to not add the --ignore-times 
option on fulls.  I haven't needed this myself yet but I think it would make a 
big difference in speed - at the expense of not checking files for unlikely but 
possible differences.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] speed up backups

2010-05-30 Thread Chris Dennis
On 27/05/10 12:17, Sorin Srbu wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: Tyler J. Wagner [mailto:ty...@tolaris.com]
 Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:00 PM
 To: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net; sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se
 Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] speed up backups

 On Thursday 27 May 2010 11:13:29 Sorin Srbu wrote:
 Looked into file system optimization again, while waiting for a backup to
 finish. Seems like noatime is a recommended setting in /etc/fstab. If I
 already have defaults set for the backup-array mount, and add
 noatime,
 should I still keep defaults? Or is it implied that the defaults are
 not
 to be used anymore and therefore one can omit it in /etc/fstab?

 My file system-fu is not that strong... 8-/

 Replace defaults with noatime or better, noatime,nodiratime.

 Then just remount, you don't need to reboot:

 mount -o remount /

 Replace / with the appropriate filesystem. I have a separate /var and
 /var/local for backuppc.

 Thanks. Just what I suspected.

 Nodiratime is new to me though. I can't say I've come upon it before. I'll
 try it at home first. 8-)

Will using ext2 instead of ext3 speed up backuppc?

cheers

Chris
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Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK

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Re: [BackupPC-users] speed up backups

2010-05-30 Thread Michael Stowe

It's generally slower, so I'm going to go with no on this one.

If filesystem is a bottleneck, you'd be better off with xfs or jfs.

 Will using ext2 instead of ext3 speed up backuppc?

 cheers

 Chris
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