Re: [BackupPC-users] mysql addon or plugin?

2011-03-28 Thread Igor Sverkos
Hi,

> [...]
> 6 let BPC capture the dump

It is possible to tell BackupPC, just to backup the dump? How?


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[BackupPC-users] moved server, now stuck in chkdsk

2011-03-28 Thread Chris Baker
I should have figured that I couldn't do this without some problem popping
up. I shut the server down properly. I moved it. Now when it boots up, it
wants to do chkdsk. I can't seem to get out of it. ALL I DID was move the
thing. The chkdsk on the logical volume does not complete, and it just
reboots. It has done this twice now, and I suppose that I am now stuck.

Does anyone have any suggestion on how to get this thing back up and
running? It was working just fine before I moved it, and that's all I did.

Chris Baker
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Re: [BackupPC-users] moved server, now stuck in chkdsk

2011-03-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 3/28/2011 1:44 PM, Chris Baker wrote:
> I should have figured that I couldn't do this without some problem popping
> up. I shut the server down properly. I moved it. Now when it boots up, it
> wants to do chkdsk. I can't seem to get out of it. ALL I DID was move the
> thing. The chkdsk on the logical volume does not complete, and it just
> reboots. It has done this twice now, and I suppose that I am now stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestion on how to get this thing back up and
> running? It was working just fine before I moved it, and that's all I did.

Reseat RAM and cables and maybe run a memory test diagnostic.  Are you 
getting any error messages during the fsck?  If it has been a long time 
since a reboot, doing the fsck is normal, but it should complete and 
continue the bootup.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] moved server, now stuck in chkdsk

2011-03-28 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 13:44 -0500, Chris Baker wrote:
> I should have figured that I couldn't do this without some problem popping
> up. I shut the server down properly. I moved it. Now when it boots up, it
> wants to do chkdsk. I can't seem to get out of it. ALL I DID was move the
> thing. The chkdsk on the logical volume does not complete, and it just
> reboots. It has done this twice now, and I suppose that I am now stuck.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestion on how to get this thing back up and
> running? It was working just fine before I moved it, and that's all I did.

When was the last time you rebooted before this move? Unfortunately,
errors lie in wait for the next reboot, even if all appears normal.

My BackupPC server has 1.4 TB of total space on an ext3 partition. It
takes over 4 hours to fsck when the mandatory check comes up.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] moved server, now stuck in chkdsk

2011-03-28 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi,

Chris Baker wrote on 2011-03-28 13:44:21 -0500 [[BackupPC-users] moved server, 
now stuck in chkdsk]:
> I should have figured that I couldn't do this without some problem popping
> up.

well, yes, they tend to do so when it suits you least.

> I shut the server down properly. I moved it. Now when it boots up, it
> wants to do chkdsk.

I presume you mean fsck? To put it differently: please elaborate on your setup
(what version of BackupPC, what version of OS, distribution, FS, hardware,
the usual stuff). Or are we really talking about a Windoze machine? ;-)

> I can't seem to get out of it. ALL I DID was move the thing.

Are you sure everything terminated properly (LVM, RAID, disk buffers flushed)?
I presume you moved it in a way that would be guaranteed not to damage the
hard disk(s), motherboard, etc.? Note that there seem to be a lot of
out-of-spec heatsinks around that weigh more than they should. This is usually
not a problem, but moving a computer with such a heatsink might be a more
delicate matter ...

Another thing to think about: are you operating the disk(s) in the same
orientation as before?

Also, check the hard disk cables. Possibly simply removing and replugging them
(with unplugged computer power cord, please!) might change something (corroded
contacts). Or replacing them. How old is the computer? How long was it in
operation as BackupPC server before you moved it?

> The chkdsk on the logical volume does not complete, and it just
> reboots.

How does it not complete? Are there error messages? Does it quietly die? Did
it (try to) correct some errors, i.e. has it changed anything yet?
What do you mean by "logical volume"? Are we talking about the BackupPC pool
FS? What FS type are you using? How large is the FS? Is it separate from the
OS installation? Do you remember details such as number of used inodes (or
files in pool or anything that might help)? How long does fsck run before the
computer reboots? How much memory does the computer have?

Were there any messages from the BIOS, is SMART enabled for the drive(s)?

> Does anyone have any suggestion on how to get this thing back up and
> running? It was working just fine before I moved it, and that's all I did.

Are you absolutely sure about that? Did you perhaps boot a different kernel
than before, e.g. due to a previous upgrade without reboot? Different versions
of some utilities?

It really depends on the nature of the problem. I can understand that you're
frustrated and probably under a lot of stress right now, but the information
you provided really doesn't point in any particular direction. It could be an
unrecoverable hardware failure or a loose cable, maybe even just an incorrect
BIOS setting somewhere. Or anything in between.


Sometimes it also helps to take a step back. What are you trying to achieve?
1.) Get backups up and running as soon (and reliably) as possible?
2.) Get access to your existing backup history?
3.) Continue backups, keeping your existing backup history?

What resources do you have? Empty hard disks to copy to? Spare machines to try
to access the hard disk from? External cases? Lots of time and man power? :)


I hope there are some ideas in there that help, and I hope you regain access
to your backups quickly.

Regards,
Holger

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup reported failed without any apparent error

2011-03-28 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi,

I remember checking the code for the error message

> > > > 2011-03-18   13:15:00 unexpected empty share  name skipped

because I was going to suggest this might be the problem. I was under the
impression that this message is generated for a bogus empty share name entry
as in ...

> $Conf{SmbShareName} = [
>   'share',
>   ''
> ];

... but that this is a warning only and should *not* lead to an aborted
backup. Specifically, the code that reports this condition then skips this
entry. The result should be the same as if it were not there at all (except,
obviously, for the warning message). So I decided to investigate further
before posting, which I obviously didn't get around to :-|.

I might be mistaken, but my guess is that your aborted backup is unrelated to
this issue. Did you consistently get the 'aborted backup' until you removed
the bogus entry, at which point it stopped? Or did you only observe the
'aborted backup' the one time?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] moved server, now stuck in chkdsk

2011-03-28 Thread Chris Baker
I did an fsck, and it seems okay now.

Chris Baker
cba...@intera.com
512-425-2006


> -Original Message-
> From: Holger Parplies [mailto:wb...@parplies.de]
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 3:05 PM
> To: Chris Baker
> Cc: General list for user discussion, questions and support
> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] moved server, now stuck in chkdsk
>
> Hi,
>
> Chris Baker wrote on 2011-03-28 13:44:21 -0500 [[BackupPC-users] moved
> server, now stuck in chkdsk]:
> > I should have figured that I couldn't do this without some problem
> popping
> > up.
>
> well, yes, they tend to do so when it suits you least.
>
> > I shut the server down properly. I moved it. Now when it boots up, it
> > wants to do chkdsk.
>
> I presume you mean fsck? To put it differently: please elaborate on your
> setup
> (what version of BackupPC, what version of OS, distribution, FS,
hardware,
> the usual stuff). Or are we really talking about a Windoze machine? ;-)
>
> > I can't seem to get out of it. ALL I DID was move the thing.
>
> Are you sure everything terminated properly (LVM, RAID, disk buffers
> flushed)?
> I presume you moved it in a way that would be guaranteed not to damage
the
> hard disk(s), motherboard, etc.? Note that there seem to be a lot of
> out-of-spec heatsinks around that weigh more than they should. This is
> usually
> not a problem, but moving a computer with such a heatsink might be a
more
> delicate matter ...
>
> Another thing to think about: are you operating the disk(s) in the same
> orientation as before?
>
> Also, check the hard disk cables. Possibly simply removing and
replugging
> them
> (with unplugged computer power cord, please!) might change something
> (corroded
> contacts). Or replacing them. How old is the computer? How long was it
in
> operation as BackupPC server before you moved it?
>
> > The chkdsk on the logical volume does not complete, and it just
> > reboots.
>
> How does it not complete? Are there error messages? Does it quietly die?
> Did
> it (try to) correct some errors, i.e. has it changed anything yet?
> What do you mean by "logical volume"? Are we talking about the BackupPC
> pool
> FS? What FS type are you using? How large is the FS? Is it separate from
> the
> OS installation? Do you remember details such as number of used inodes
(or
> files in pool or anything that might help)? How long does fsck run
before
> the
> computer reboots? How much memory does the computer have?
>
> Were there any messages from the BIOS, is SMART enabled for the
drive(s)?
>
> > Does anyone have any suggestion on how to get this thing back up and
> > running? It was working just fine before I moved it, and that's all I
> did.
>
> Are you absolutely sure about that? Did you perhaps boot a different
> kernel
> than before, e.g. due to a previous upgrade without reboot? Different
> versions
> of some utilities?
>
> It really depends on the nature of the problem. I can understand that
> you're
> frustrated and probably under a lot of stress right now, but the
> information
> you provided really doesn't point in any particular direction. It could
be
> an
> unrecoverable hardware failure or a loose cable, maybe even just an
> incorrect
> BIOS setting somewhere. Or anything in between.
>
>
> Sometimes it also helps to take a step back. What are you trying to
> achieve?
> 1.) Get backups up and running as soon (and reliably) as possible?
> 2.) Get access to your existing backup history?
> 3.) Continue backups, keeping your existing backup history?
>
> What resources do you have? Empty hard disks to copy to? Spare machines
to
> try
> to access the hard disk from? External cases? Lots of time and man
power?
> :)
>
>
> I hope there are some ideas in there that help, and I hope you regain
> access
> to your backups quickly.
>
> Regards,
> Holger

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup reported failed without any apparent error

2011-03-28 Thread Long V
Hi Holger,

I observed the aborted backup every time until I remove the empty element in my 
config.

FYI, before removing the empty element in my config, I also suspected wrong 
behavior from the SMB server of my Mac OSX so I removed all the shares except 
one, it didn't fix the abort error either.

Long





From: Holger Parplies 
To: Long V 
Cc: backuppc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 4:21:31 PM
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Backup reported failed without any apparent error

Hi,

I remember checking the code for the error message

> > > > 2011-03-18   13:15:00 unexpected empty share  name skipped

because I was going to suggest this might be the problem. I was under the
impression that this message is generated for a bogus empty share name entry
as in ...

> $Conf{SmbShareName} = [
>   'share',
>   ''
> ];

... but that this is a warning only and should *not* lead to an aborted
backup. Specifically, the code that reports this condition then skips this
entry. The result should be the same as if it were not there at all (except,
obviously, for the warning message). So I decided to investigate further
before posting, which I obviously didn't get around to :-|.

I might be mistaken, but my guess is that your aborted backup is unrelated to
this issue. Did you consistently get the 'aborted backup' until you removed
the bogus entry, at which point it stopped? Or did you only observe the
'aborted backup' the one time?

Regards,
Holger


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