Re: [BackupPC-users] Best FS for BackupPC

2011-05-27 Thread Ralf Gross
Holger Parplies schrieb:
 Hi,
 
 Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote on 2011-05-26 06:05:48 -0500 [Re: 
 [BackupPC-users] Best FS for BackupPC]:
  On 05/26 12:20 , Adam Goryachev wrote:
   BTW, specifically related to backuppc, many years ago, reiserfsck was
   perfect as it doesn't have any concept or limit on 'inodes'... Same for
   mail and news (nntp) servers. Do XFS/JFS have this feature? I'll look
   into these things another day, when I have some time :)
  
  There are indeed 'inodes' listed in the 'df -i' output of XFS filesystems.
  However, I've never heard of anyone hitting the inode limit on XFS, unlike
  ext3.
 
 of course XFS *has* inodes, and I wondered about the 'df -i' output, too, when
 I tried it yesterday. I don't remember reiserfs giving any meaningful
 information for 'df -i' ... nope, '0 0 0 -'. I sincerely hope that XFS doesn't
 have *static inode allocation*, meaning I have to choose the number of inodes
 at file system creation time and waste any space I reserve for them but do not
 turn out to need. That was one main concern when choosing my pool FS.
 Actually, mkfs.xfs(8) explains a parameter '-i maxpct=value':
 
 This  specifies  the  maximum percentage of space in
 the filesystem that can be allocated to inodes.  The
 default  value  is 25% for filesystems under 1TB, 5%
 for filesystems under 50TB and  1%  for  filesystems
 over 50TB.
 
 The further explanation says this is achieved by the data block allocator
 avoiding lower blocks, which are needed for obtaining 32-bit inode numbers.
 It leaves two questions unanswered (to me, at least):
 ...

have a look at the inode64 mount option.

http://xfs.org/index.php/XFS_FAQ#Q:_What_is_the_inode64_mount_option_for.3F

Ralf

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC_dump hangs with: .: size doesn't match

2011-05-27 Thread John Goerzen
Some more notes...

I tried also setting up a separate host to back up the same filesystem.This,
in theory, should mean that it doesn't refer to the saved data at all.  But the
result of it was that it simply hung using 100% of the CPU at the end and
ultimately failed.

So far I have only observed the problem with the rsync backend; tar 
seems to work.

This is becoming a deeply concerning problem and help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

-- John


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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC_dump hangs with: .: size doesn't match

2011-05-27 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 05/27 07:56 , John Goerzen wrote:
 So far I have only observed the problem with the rsync backend; tar 
 seems to work.

Pardon me if I didn't read and understand your problem sufficiently; but if
you exclude the problematic files; will the backup run to completion?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC_dump hangs with: .: size doesn't match

2011-05-27 Thread John Goerzen
Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom chrome at real-time.com writes:

 
 On 05/27 07:56 , John Goerzen wrote:
  So far I have only observed the problem with the rsync backend; tar 
  seems to work.
 
 Pardon me if I didn't read and understand your problem sufficiently; but if
 you exclude the problematic files; will the backup run to completion?
 

I have yet to discover what they are.  The filesystem in question contains about
400,000.  It seems that the backup hangs after it finishes backing up the
filesystem too, which is particularly strange.  I am trying to separate it out
into separate jobs to gain some clues but the process of elimination may be long
and difficult with a data set that large.

-- John


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Re: [BackupPC-users] BackupPC_dump hangs with: .: size doesn't match

2011-05-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 5/27/11 8:46 PM, John Goerzen wrote:

 So far I have only observed the problem with the rsync backend; tar
 seems to work.

 Pardon me if I didn't read and understand your problem sufficiently; but if
 you exclude the problematic files; will the backup run to completion?


 I have yet to discover what they are.  The filesystem in question contains 
 about
 400,000.  It seems that the backup hangs after it finishes backing up the
 filesystem too, which is particularly strange.  I am trying to separate it out
 into separate jobs to gain some clues but the process of elimination may be 
 long
 and difficult with a data set that large.

Is there any chance the filesystem is corrupted?  Or you have some sparse file 
that becomes huge when you read through it?

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