Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up Windows 7 Pro, not enough permissions

2017-05-17 Thread Michael Huntley
Stowe has been around forever.  I suggest you read his entire blog -
very entertaining. 

Here's his BackupPC stuff: 

http://www.michaelstowe.com/backuppc/ 

I decided to use vssadmin and wmic to manage restore points.  I then use
Cygwin and a bash script to mount the shadow copy for backup. 

It's kludged together but works for me.

Cheers! 

mph 

On 2017-05-17 06:07, Alexander Kobel wrote:

> Hi Michael,
> 
> On 2017-05-15 06:32 PM, Holger Parplies wrote: Hi,
> 
> Michael Stowe wrote on 2017-05-15 09:58:08 -0500 [Re: [BackupPC-users] 
> Backing up Windows 7 Pro, not enough permissions]:
> [...] At any rate, these reasons are why I personally switched to a
> combination of rsync and vshadow (to handle open files) and put together
> a package to install the proper files on the client side.  [...]

would you mind to share that package, in whatever state it is? I use a 
similar setup (Cygwin + rsync over SSH), but getting it to run is less 
than intuitive.

I yet have to find a simple and fool-proof way of installing (don't talk

about keeping up-to-date even) that combination. It takes me less and 
less time every time I do it (every few months), but it's still a pain. 
IIRC, last time I had to refresh my mind on
- how to enable a cyg_server (appx. a.k.a. root) account with the proper

access rights
- how to open port 22 on the firewall, and (if need be) respond to
pings,
- how to make the SSH server accept the BackupPC server pubkey (because 
cyg_server has no home by default).
And that's even without vshadow.

Certainly not an approach that I can load off to the average Joe user, 
say, "download and install ..., and I do the BackupPC server setup 
remotely".

Cheers,
Alexander

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up Windows 7 Pro, not enough permissions

2017-05-17 Thread Alexander Kobel
Hi Michael,

On 2017-05-15 06:32 PM, Holger Parplies wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Michael Stowe wrote on 2017-05-15 09:58:08 -0500 [Re: [BackupPC-users] 
> Backing up Windows 7 Pro, not enough permissions]:
>[...]
>> At any rate, these reasons are why I personally switched to a
>> combination of rsync and vshadow (to handle open files) and put together
>> a package to install the proper files on the client side.  [...]

would you mind to share that package, in whatever state it is? I use a 
similar setup (Cygwin + rsync over SSH), but getting it to run is less 
than intuitive.

I yet have to find a simple and fool-proof way of installing (don't talk 
about keeping up-to-date even) that combination. It takes me less and 
less time every time I do it (every few months), but it's still a pain. 
IIRC, last time I had to refresh my mind on
- how to enable a cyg_server (appx. a.k.a. root) account with the proper 
access rights
- how to open port 22 on the firewall, and (if need be) respond to pings,
- how to make the SSH server accept the BackupPC server pubkey (because 
cyg_server has no home by default).
And that's even without vshadow.

Certainly not an approach that I can load off to the average Joe user, 
say, "download and install ..., and I do the BackupPC server setup 
remotely".


Cheers,
Alexander

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing up Windows 7 Pro, not enough permissions

2017-05-17 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi,

Michael Stowe wrote on 2017-05-15 09:58:08 -0500 [Re: [BackupPC-users] Backing 
up Windows 7 Pro, not enough permissions]:
> On 2017-05-15 05:20, Tapio Lehtonen wrote:
> > [...]
> > The share C is shared to network and user backuppc has full rights.
> > [...]
> 
> There are a few important things to understand here.  One is that not 
> all transport mechanisms are created equal when backing up Windows 
> systems.

what a nice way to say that :-).

I'm not a Windoze expert at all, but I vaguely remember you (Michael) stating
in the past that there is a difference between the default C$ share and an
explicitly created share ... assuming my memory is correct, might that be
the issue here? I.e. does anything change if you (Tapio) explicitly create
a share and use that (or use the C$ share if you were previously using
something different)?

> At any rate, these reasons are why I personally switched to a 
> combination of rsync and vshadow (to handle open files) and put together 
> a package to install the proper files on the client side.

If I were in the unlucky situation of having to deal with Windoze hosts,
that is what I would use. From what I have read on this list, it seems
to be the best choice.

Regards,
Holger

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