Re: [BackupPC-users] Real Time View of What Is Being Copied

2022-03-07 Thread Sorin Srbu
On Mon, 2022-03-07 at 13:26 +, G.W. Haywood via BackupPC-users wrote:

> 
> > One common legitimate use case for sparse files is virtual disk images.
> 
> Ah, good point!  But nobody in his right mind would use BackupPC
> to back them up directly as files, would they?

I used to do that until I found out that the Veeam Backup Agent for linux
was free and a stand-alone product.
My Veeam setup does a daily bare metal backup, while my BackupPC setup does
a daily backup of the everchanging smaller stuff in /etc/, /home and such.
Stuff that I need to get back fast should the need arise. 
The folder containing my virtualbox disk images are however excluded for
practical reasons.


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Archive ACLs

2022-03-07 Thread Paul via BackupPC-users
In the past, rather than use the BackupPC archive function, I used rsync from 
the command line to back-up my Backuppc server to a removable USB drive on a PC 
on my network.  Don’t know if that will work for you but, may be worth 
exploring.






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> On Mar 7, 2022, at 10:31 PM, ralph strebbing  wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 5:02 PM  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm not sure that tarCreate or archiveHost respect ACLs.
>> I know that rsync restore does work...
> Right, and that's what we're using right now to backup the Hosts. But
> now we need to make our offline and offsite backups. So the BackupPC
> localhost is now set to Archive xfer mode, and now I need to get ACLs
> to preserve throughout this process too.
> 
> Regards,
> Ralph
> 
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Archive ACLs

2022-03-07 Thread ralph strebbing
On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 5:02 PM  wrote:
>
> I'm not sure that tarCreate or archiveHost respect ACLs.
> I know that rsync restore does work...
Right, and that's what we're using right now to backup the Hosts. But
now we need to make our offline and offsite backups. So the BackupPC
localhost is now set to Archive xfer mode, and now I need to get ACLs
to preserve throughout this process too.

Regards,
Ralph


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Archive ACLs

2022-03-07 Thread backuppc
I'm not sure that tarCreate or archiveHost respect ACLs.
I know that rsync restore does work...
ralph strebbing wrote at about 15:53:24 -0500 on Monday, March 7, 2022:
 > Hi again,
 > 
 > So after updating to BackupPC 4.x, ACLs work for rsync (yay). Now what
 > we're trying to do is get the ACLs working from the Archive host. It
 > is correctly exporting the tar.gz files, but when I extract them onto
 > my PC, the files have lost their ownership/group properties and ACLs.
 > I attempted to modify the arguments on the client end with the
 > extraction to no avail, so I presume it has something to do with
 > either the BackupPC_archiveHost or BackupPC_tarCreate scripts. So
 > ultimately 2 questions:
 > 1. Is ACL/permission preservation supported with Archives? If so, how
 > can I achieve this?
 > 2. If it isn't supported, how should one go about preserving these
 > with the archives?
 > 
 > Appreciate any help!
 > 
 > Regards,
 > Ralph
 > 
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[BackupPC-users] Archive ACLs

2022-03-07 Thread ralph strebbing
Hi again,

So after updating to BackupPC 4.x, ACLs work for rsync (yay). Now what
we're trying to do is get the ACLs working from the Archive host. It
is correctly exporting the tar.gz files, but when I extract them onto
my PC, the files have lost their ownership/group properties and ACLs.
I attempted to modify the arguments on the client end with the
extraction to no avail, so I presume it has something to do with
either the BackupPC_archiveHost or BackupPC_tarCreate scripts. So
ultimately 2 questions:
1. Is ACL/permission preservation supported with Archives? If so, how
can I achieve this?
2. If it isn't supported, how should one go about preserving these
with the archives?

Appreciate any help!

Regards,
Ralph


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Re: [BackupPC-users] Real Time View of What Is Being Copied

2022-03-07 Thread G.W. Haywood via BackupPC-users

Hi there,

On Mon, 7 Mar 2022,  Dave Sherohman wrote:

Re: Real Time View of What Is Being Copied

On 3/5/22 14:36, G.W. Haywood via BackupPC-users wrote:

On Sat, 5 Mar 2022, Les Mikesell wrote:

Unix/Linux has something calle 'sparse' files ...


I can't remember the last time I saw a sparse file used ...


One common legitimate use case for sparse files is virtual disk images.


Ah, good point!  But nobody in his right mind would use BackupPC
to back them up directly as files, would they?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] Real Time View of What Is Being Copied

2022-03-07 Thread Dave Sherohman via BackupPC-users

On 3/5/22 14:36, G.W. Haywood via BackupPC-users wrote:

On Sat, 5 Mar 2022, Les Mikesell wrote:

Unix/Linux has something calle 'sparse' files used by some types of
databases where you can seek far into a file and write without
using/allocating any space up to that point.  The file as stored may
not be large but most tools to copy it will act as though the empty
parts were filled with nulls.


I can't remember the last time I saw a sparse file used *anywhere* in
'real life', although they are occasionally found in malicious mail.


One common legitimate use case for sparse files is virtual disk images.  
I run a fair number of virtual machines at work (I think we're currently 
at around 90 of them) and sparse files allow me to have a VM with a "1 
TB" virtual disk that only takes up a few dozen GB of real disk space 
and grows as needed to hold additional data.


As Les said, copying these files (with, e.g., `cp`) takes time 
proportional to their virtual size, not their physical size, even though 
the smaller physical size is preserved by the operation. Don't know 
whether this applies to rsync, though.  Might need to try that next time 
I need to duplicate one, just to see whether rsync handles sparse files 
smarter/faster than other tools.




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