[BackupPC-users] How to backup Exchange in BackupPC - step by step

2013-07-23 Thread Prem
Dear All,
 
Could anyone kindly share the step by step to set up the backup of Exchange 
2008 in BackupPC?
 
Regards,
John
 
p/s. Thanks Craig for helping.
 


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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to backup Exchange in BackupPC - step by step

2013-07-23 Thread Lord Sporkton
There is no such thing as exchange 2008. There is exchange 2007 and
exchange 2010. And there is server 2008. But no exchange 2008.

I am backing up exchange 2007. I am using windows backup(ntbackup) on a
schedule to backup system state and the exchange database into a flat bak
file. Then backing up the flat file. In my case i added a cheap hdd to the
server specifically to store the bak files on so it has no risk of
interfering with the system drive or datastore drive. I also have a windows
scheduled task that goes in and deletes bak files that are older than 1 day
right before ntbackup runs.



On 23 July 2013 19:26, Prem  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Could anyone kindly share the step by step to set up the backup of
> Exchange 2008 in BackupPC?
>
> Regards,
> John
>
> p/s. Thanks Craig for helping.
>
>*From:* Craig Barratt 
> *To:* Prem ; "General list for user discussion,
> questions and support" 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:23 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [BackupPC-users] Post questions for backuppc
>
> John,
>
> I would like to post questions for BackupPC, kindly grant me the access
> and advise how it is done?
>
>
> You just did ask a question of the entire user list.  Nothing more is
> needed.  Send your question to this list, as you just did.
>
> Craig
>
>
>
>
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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to backup Exchange in BackupPC - step by step

2013-07-24 Thread Prem
Lord, 
 
Thank you for the hint but does the NTBackup diligently handle Exchange DB even 
with open files? Could you share how the configuration is done?
 
Based on what I read in few other forums they were mentioning about using VSS 
component to achieve it but just that I don't quite much get the process.
 
Appreciate it.
  


 From: Lord Sporkton 
To: Prem ; "General list for user discussion, questions 
and support"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] How to backup Exchange in BackupPC - step by step
  


There is no such thing as exchange 2008. There is exchange 2007 and exchange 
2010. And there is server 2008. But no exchange 2008. 

I am backing up exchange 2007. I am using windows backup(ntbackup) on a 
schedule to backup system state and the exchange database into a flat bak file. 
Then backing up the flat file. In my case i added a cheap hdd to the server 
specifically to store the bak files on so it has no risk of interfering with 
the system drive or datastore drive. I also have a windows scheduled task that 
goes in and deletes bak files that are older than 1 day right before ntbackup 
runs.  




On 23 July 2013 19:26, Prem  wrote:

Dear All, 
> 
>Could anyone kindly share the step by step to set up the backup of Exchange 
>2008 in BackupPC?
> 
>Regards,
>John
>  
>p/s. Thanks Craig for helping.
>
> 
> From: Craig Barratt 
>To: Prem ; "General list for user discussion, questions 
>and support"  
>Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:23 AM
>Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Post questions for backuppc
>  
>
>
>John,
>
>
>I would like to post questions for BackupPC, kindly grant me the access and 
>advise how it is done?
> 
>You just did ask a question of the entire user list.  Nothing more is needed.  
>Send your question to this list, as you just did.
>
>
>Craig
>
>   
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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to backup Exchange in BackupPC - step by step

2013-07-24 Thread Michael Stowe

I can't speak to Exchange 2008 specifcally (is there even a 2008?) but we
just use a standard VSS/rsync backup, which appears to work perfectly
well.  It's not a critical part of our infrastructure, though, so it
hasn't been tested extensively.

> Dear All,
>  
> Could anyone kindly share the step by step to set up the backup of
> Exchange 2008 in BackupPC?
>  
> Regards,
> John
>  
> p/s. Thanks Craig for helping.


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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to backup Exchange in BackupPC - step by step

2013-07-24 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message -
> From: "Prem" 
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Could anyone kindly share the step by step to set up the backup of
> Exchange 2008 in BackupPC?
> 
Does Exmerge still exist?  I used to use that to export Exchange
mailboxes to *.pst files, and then I backed them up with Backuppc.
It was a long time ago, so I don't remember many of the specifics.

-Rob

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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to backup Exchange in BackupPC - step by step

2013-07-24 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message -
> From: "Rob Owens" 
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Prem" 
> > 
> > Dear All,
> > 
> > Could anyone kindly share the step by step to set up the backup of
> > Exchange 2008 in BackupPC?
> > 
> Does Exmerge still exist?  I used to use that to export Exchange
> mailboxes to *.pst files, and then I backed them up with Backuppc.
> It was a long time ago, so I don't remember many of the specifics.
> 
Apparently it's been replaced with Export-Mailbox.  See this page:
https://www.simple-talk.com/sysadmin/exchange/goodbye-exchange-exmerge,-hello-export-mailbox/

-Rob

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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to backup Exchange in BackupPC - step by step

2013-07-24 Thread backuppc
Prem wrote at about 02:10:13 -0700 on Wednesday, July 24, 2013:
 > Lord, 
 >  
 > Thank you for the hint but does the NTBackup diligently handle Exchange DB 
 > even with open files? Could you share how the configuration is done?
 >  
 > Based on what I read in few other forums they were mentioning about using 
 > VSS component to achieve it but just that I don't quite much get the process.
 >  

I may be totally misremembering, but I thought that ntbackup itself
uses VSS to take a stable snapshot this does not of course
necessarily guarantee that exchange has written all pending writes to
disk and is in a stable state... but at least the disk itself is
synced & stably represented in the VSS snapshot.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to backup Exchange in BackupPC - step by step

2013-07-24 Thread Lord Sporkton
On 24 July 2013 02:10, Prem  wrote:

> Lord,
>
> Thank you for the hint but does the NTBackup diligently handle Exchange DB
> even with open files? Could you share how the configuration is done?
>
> Based on what I read in few other forums they were mentioning about using
> VSS component to achieve it but just that I don't quite much get the
> process.
>
> Appreciate it.
>
>

NTBackup is native to windows and fully supports backing up exchange in an
active state. So you do not need to shut down any part of exchange if that
is what youre asking. It shouldnt cause corruption just because exchange is
running at the time of backup.

NTbackup does not support mailbox level backup so far as I know so it would
be a disaster recovery backup situation, not an archive situation. You
would have to dump out and restore the entire mail datastore at a time.

you can start ntbackup i think by just typing ntbackup into a run dialog or
cmd prompt on windows, its fairly automated and beyond the scope of this
mailing list to detail how exactly ntbackup works. Basically run ntbackup
and create a nightly job that dumps out the exchange data store before the
backuppc process happens. I have two jobs, one for even days and one for
odd days, they run every other day respectively and overwrite their
respective file each day so I dont have backup file buildup on the system.

As far as vss snapshots, that is fine for flat files but my understanding
is that is a lot like trying to backup a sql database file, you are
backuping up an active database file and who knows what state the file is
in. You really should be doing a dump of the database and backing up the
dumped file, be that exchange or sql or anything else. I'm not entirely
sure how exchange would feel about you trying to restore a flat file of its
database either. You could end up with exchange rejecting the restored
file. I dont entirely know on that last bit to be honest though.
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Re: [BackupPC-users] How to backup Exchange in BackupPC - step by step

2013-07-24 Thread Michael Stowe

> VSS / Rsync - I didn't think Rsync was VSS aware ?
> is there a port with VSS support ?

By itself, rsync isn't VSS aware (nor should it be, really, since rsync
acts on files and VSS acts on volumes) but I, Mr. Kosowsky and others here
have put together various ways for VSS and rsync to work together with
BackupPC to back up Windows and its various services.

Due to the way Microsoft has put together VSS, a VSS writer for Exchange
in conjunction with the above should work for full volume backups for
Exchange just as a VSS writer for SQL Server will do the same for SQL
Server.  It won't be aware of individual databases (you'd need to interact
with the VSS API for that.)

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/exchange/aa579284%28v=exchg.140%29.aspx

Note also that recovery may be tricky; as with any backup solution, I
highly recommend testing it before relying upon it.

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